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HI:)

Export Improvements are a great forward! I always faught with the settings before and had some strange results some times.

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This is really great, thanks!

The AudioSnap improvements sound very interesting, as well as the new export module! I almost gave up AudioSnap some time ago, but it seems my calls have not been unheard!

As soon as possible I'll give the new version (early access) a try! It sounds very amazing! Great improvements! 😊 👍

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Export procedures are a major evolution and we know we will go much further now.

A question that came to me from this format.
Is the final file name and location saved according to the task?

If I enter different names and locations in the stored Tasks it will generate like this or will name and location always be those contained in the task parameterization box?

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When exporting clips it is not possible to configure or there is no tag to export the clip with its name

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Tags 

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this name without or with the index

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1 hour ago, Milton Sica said:

Export procedures are a major evolution and we know we will go much further now.

A question that came to me from this format.
Is the final file name and location saved according to the task?

If I enter different names and locations in the stored Tasks it will generate like this or will name and location always be those contained in the task parameterization box?

image.png.efb947fb7dfb343df7de5b6a5d2faf6d.png

Yes.  But you'll want to have unique filenames so each task doesn't overwrite the results of the previous.

You can use the {taskname} tag in the filename if necessary.

1 hour ago, Milton Sica said:

When exporting clips it is not possible to configure or there is no tag to export the clip with its name

image.png.9d23f354118af4f1020cd7768c182dcb.png

Tags 

image.png.6550a8ed85fac16c6a33cb915f807798.png

this name without or with the index

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If you set the filename to something like:

{projectname}-{tracknumber}-{trackname}-{laneindex}-{clipindex}-{clipname}



You'll get the clip name at the end.

If you just want the clip name, set the filename to:

{clipname}

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10 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

Yes.  But you'll want to have unique filenames so each task doesn't overwrite the results of the previous.

You can use the {taskname} tag in the filename if necessary.

If you set the filename to something like:
{projectname}-{tracknumber}-{trackname}-{laneindex}-{clipindex}-{clipname}

You'll get the clip name at the end.

If you just want the clip name, set the filename to:
{clipname}

Thank you, but your guidance does not work as I want to parameterize.

Even selecting clip export the clip name (Marhino) is not generated.

 

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13 minutes ago, Milton Sica said:

Thank you, but your guidance does not work as I want to parameterize.

Even selecting clip export the clip name (Marhino) is not generated.

 

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I'd need to see the whole of the export dialog to try to figure out why this is happening.

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This is brilliant - I look forward to using ☺️

Do you think it will be possible to add  Folders as a source in the " What To Export " section ? 

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38 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

I'd need to see the whole of the export dialog to try to figure out why this is happening.

I believe there may be a problem with the translation into Portuguese.

I don't see the parameterization in my language.

At the end, the name is generated in this format.

Marhino(69).wav

I want to generate the final filename without the index (69)

Only like this:

marhino.wav

 

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1 minute ago, Milton Sica said:

I believe there may be a problem with the translation into Portuguese.

I don't see the parameterization in my language.

At the end, the name is generated in this format.

Marhino(69).wav

I want to generate the final filename without the index (69)

Only like this:

marhino.wav

 

image.png.953d20a02d76a9a305bb1647a687756c.png

The index is in fact part of the name.

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You'll need to rename the clip to remove the index.

If you've got lots of clips on the track, and want them all with the same name, do this:

rename_all_clips_in_track.gif

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5 hours ago, msmcleod said:

A task basically =  Bounce Settings + Project Selection + Checked Sources

  • The Bounce Settings can be stored as a preset in the top preset dropdown.   The filename is now also stored with the preset, so if you use the new filename tags it can pick up what it needs from the project properties, or alternatively make it blank before saving the preset.
  • Project Selection + Checked Sources are obviously project specific.

In most cases, the bounce settings presets should suffice.

There's no reason why you couldn't save your tasks as part of a project template though.  You might need to recall/update them if you change or add new tracks though.
 

Thanks ms...

It's gonna take me a few minutes to wrap my head around this.

Yes, handy as is for many things. Already a saver for my mastering template. All that remains in that path are the mp3 dialog settings so in need of presets! 🙂

 

...but for building new projects, the ability to use presets including tasks seems an obviously handy tool!

 

...Please don’t take me wrong. I love the new features and see a few extra elements to make it a more "complete " job?

 

 Thanks again for your time explaining. Age is making me more confused than drugs ever did!

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13 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

The index is in fact part of the name.

image.thumb.png.8a6cd9f0bfc2227c2ee97523d46a5c96.png

You'll need to rename the clip to remove the index.

If you've got lots of clips on the track, and want them all with the same name, do this:

rename_all_clips_in_track.gif

Good hint.
I explain how my basic work project is:

1) Mix the song and export it to WAV in a default folder.
2) I open a Mastering and Exporting project to WAV, MP3, etc.

Whenever I generate a Mix export, even though I don't include any index, the DAW includes its own index. In case (69).

When importing into the mastering project this index comes with the clip without my being able to interfere with its deletion from the exported name.

Your tip is great and does what I need.

However, I would like this process to be more transparent, that is, that the imported WAV does not bring the index to the information of the Clip name. In this case (69).

This would prevent me from having to perform the procedure you indicated for each mastering.

Thank you for your help.

Name exported:

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Name clipe imported

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It turns out that index (69) is a cumulative import index in my mastering project.
See that the clip now assumes the index (70).

Perhaps the approach should start with something like this.

HOW TO RESET THE INDEX SEQUENTIAL THAT THE PROCESS ASSUMES WHEN IMPORTING A CLIP?

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Keni said:

Thanks ms...

It's gonna take me a few minutes to wrap my head around this.

Yes, handy as is for many things. Already a saver for my mastering template. All that remains in that path are the mp3 dialog settings so in need of presets! 🙂

 

...but for building new projects, the ability to use presets including tasks seems an obviously handy tool!

 

...Please don’t take me wrong. I love the new features and see a few extra elements to make it a more "complete " job?

 

 Thanks again for your time explaining. Age is making me more confused than drugs ever did!

Also to add to what Mark said, tasks are by definition per project so it doesn't make sense to share them across project since they contain information that is keyed to a specific project. MP3 presets would be a different feature that we may consider in the future.

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EXPORT

1) The information of the folder chosen for export is not kept with the saving of the project. Every opening it returns to the default value.

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2) Tasks after being performed are unchecked. If you want to run the tasks again you need to close the window and reopen it or check each box. It would be nice to have a box that allows you to check/uncheck all tasks and that, after their execution, they are not unchecked.

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Excellent update.

However, I have noticed something with the export results using different export buffer settings that I am not sure if it’s expected.

If I have a VSTi (in my case, AAS String Studio VS-3) that has sequential pitch bend events applied to achieve a glide from one note to another, the higher I set the export buffer setting to, the more stepping in the pitch bends I can hear.   I am using pitch bends i9n the PRV controller lane. I have net tested it using automation as I use CCs in the PRV for my workflow.

To achieve an exported file with a smooth pitch bend generated glide, I need to set the buffer to 1. 

To make sure it was not a String Studio VS-3 issue, I tried the same thing in a Rapture Pro patch that had just one sawtooth  -  same ting happened there as well.  I get stepped pitch bend.

Is this expected behaviour if I set the export value is set to higher values?

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11 minutes ago, Milton Sica said:

EXPORT

1) The information of the folder chosen for export is not kept with the saving of the project. Every opening it returns to the default value.

image.png.29b663416779e8f9d48f565b3dda98b4.png

2) Tasks after being performed are unchecked. If you want to run the tasks again you need to close the window and reopen it or check each box. It would be nice to have a box that allows you to check/uncheck all tasks and that, after their execution, they are not unchecked.

image.png.8cc8991ca77f5cfcf1dfde0588d705c8.png

 

 

 

Both of these are intentional.

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3 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

Both of these are intentional.

It would be interesting then to have an option in the task lines that we could see its basic characteristics.

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Exporting to MP3 only works the first time you include the Task. The next few times it is run, it is not run.

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1 minute ago, Milton Sica said:

Exporting to MP3 only works the first time you include the Task. The next few times it is run, it is not run.

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The options dialog is only shown when you create the task. It isn't shown when running it.

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1 hour ago, chimkin2 said:

This is brilliant - I look forward to using ☺️

Do you think it will be possible to add  Folders as a source in the " What To Export " section ? 

Not sure what you mean by "Folders". What to export refers to sources within the current project such as tracks, buses, arrangements.

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