sarine Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 54 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: Both. But they go hand in hand. At least My terminal GAS is driven by the "good deal". 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidden Symmetry Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 2:06 PM, Paul Young said: So whose gonna pass on this? I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Sam in the Composers Roundtable podcast that Simeon and I just did said flat out that the KU13 update was not worth it. But then I mentioned that Noire (which he talked about) was in it. But I think this is common. A lot of people don't want to update every time. Here's my two cents: First, I do think 13 CE is worth it because Noire and Picked Acoustic are two of my very favorite instruments. Not just NI instruments, two of my favorites. And Arkhis is really good. And then there is some other stuff I am just exploring, which I'll talk about below. I only got into Komplete with 11, but I've updated both times. But before this time, I always waited patiently and didn't buy anything, as I do for Total Studio. This time I started buying things because I learned that reselling was so easy. When Noire came out, it was $149, but I had a $50 NI Voucher at the time. So I got it for $100 and I figured I had a good chance to sell it at $75. I couldn't resist Picked Acoustic, and it didn't go on sale at BF so I bought it with a voucher for $75. I just sold it for $50. So I paid $25 to enjoy it all these years. I also bought Mallet Flux and Arkhis for half price. I'm hoping to sell them for the same amount. But again, if I have to cut the price by a few bucks, it was worth it. i bought the update for the Percussion (a great library) and the Electric Sunburst Deluxe (sold already) So we'll see how this works out. But my feeling is that if you buy with vouchers or doing 50% off sales, you have a decent shot at getting all or most of your money back. So right now I have two vouchers. I will definitely use one for the upcoming Asian Discovery library (no way that the Yangqin freebie was a one-off). I'm going to want that one right away. But I'm also thinking about getting the Electric Vintage Guitar with my other voucher. So I pay $75 and hopefully sell for $50 someday. Compared to all the other crap I buy that I can't resell, it works out. The thing that makes it work is that the NI prices are so steady. Full price except for half price twice a year. That works for me. You can sell to people who don't want to wait for the next sale. But some of the other stuff I can wait for. But I am pretty dazzled by the Cremona Quartet. I never would have bought it from anybody else, but now that I have it, love it. And I have a lot of pretty good violins and cellos already. It has a lot of fancy articulations which make it a great combo with stuff like Sunset Strings and Ben Osterhouse stuff. And of course Pharlight and Straylight I had demos on--so no surprises there, I knew I loved them. Guitar Rig 6. A real shocker was Butch Vig drums. This is like a ujam drum set on steroids. Just wow. And he comes from my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin. I watched him play with his terrific pre-GARBAGE band Spooner. During the holiday sales I bought Maschine software. I had no idea you could play Maschine through my Komplete Kontrol controller. It's so easy to miss because there are four buttons that don't light up unless you're running Maschine. It's a blast to play with--very similar to using Ableton. You don't have pads, but you can use your piano keys or another pad controller. I'll probably make a video someday about it. Needless to say, getting all those expansions really means something. FYI, My sale is going on HERE. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Reid Rosefelt said: First, I do think 13 CE is worth it because Noire and Picked Acoustic are two of my very favorite instruments. Not just NI instruments, two of my favorites. And Arkhis is really good. And then there is some other stuff I am just exploring, which I'll talk about below. I hear good things about the piano but I have so many of them and of course you can get some good ones from Sampletekk right now. It seems that new pianos, strings, and harsh sounding synths create oohs and aahs these days. It depends on what level you create and genres to not fall for is really gimmicks. Upgrading from KU to KU doesn't really appeal when another $50 gives you KCE. Edited June 4, 2021 by Paul Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Upgrade to KUCE13 from KU is $449.00 Aus, Upgrade KU to KU is $299.00 Aus. So $150.00 difference for me in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffo Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I'm in Australia too. Kontakt > Komplete upgrade is $199 USD but $299 AU for us (at NI site and resellers). But the exchange rate for $199 US = $257 AU. I have no idea how they justify the extra $38 AU for a digital product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, Toffo said: I'm in Australia too. Kontakt > Komplete upgrade is $199 USD but $299 AU for us (at NI site and resellers). But the exchange rate for $199 US = $257 AU. I have no idea how they justify the extra $38 AU for a digital product. You never get the posted rate exchange rate when you purchase online. What would it actually cost you if you purchased the upgrade at $199 USD with a credit card or paypal and factored in bank fees, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Doug Rintoul said: You never get the posted rate exchange rate when you purchase online. What would it actually cost you if you purchased the upgrade at $199 USD with a credit card or paypal and factored in bank fees, etc? NI is charging ridiculously overcharged conversion fees, even when compared to the worst of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Yan Filiatrault said: NI is charging ridiculously overcharged conversion fees, even when compared to the worst of them. Ya, it looks like it. Posted rate for CAD to USD is .83. When I purchased with Paypal, the rate I got as .795. So my $98 should have cost me $118 using the posted rate. It actually cost me $123 from T&S. It would have cost me $129.50 directly from NI. So if you can, I guess it is better to buy from a third party in USD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: Ya, it looks like it. Posted rate for CAD to USD is .83. When I purchased with Paypal, the rate I got as .795. So my $98 should have cost me $118 using the posted rate. It actually cost me $123 from T&S. It would have cost me $129.50 directly from NI. So if you can, I guess it is better to buy from a third party in USD. That’s what I did. T&S in US dollars, no local taxes, used some loyalty points, and got 2 freebies on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vst0nE Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 no licenses for NI updates/upgrades available from timespace as per support until next week earliest 😟 so if you wish to have it now you ho to go direct with NI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesh Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Thanks dee... I was just about to ask if anyone has got the boxed set yet.....I ordered mine on 6/1 and no news on the delivery date from T&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Doug Rintoul said: Ya, it looks like it. Posted rate for CAD to USD is .83. When I purchased with Paypal, the rate I got as .795. So my $98 should have cost me $118 using the posted rate. It actually cost me $123 from T&S. It would have cost me $129.50 directly from NI. So if you can, I guess it is better to buy from a third party in USD. In case you weren't aware of this, there's an option when you're paying through paypal and it shows you the converted rate in your local currency, "View currency conversion options" that allows you to pay in the original currency and then you'll get your own banks exchange rates. My bank gives pretty much the exchange rate, and because we have our home loan with them they don't charge currency conversion fees, so it works out saving me money each time. Unfortunately when I'm spending above and beyond and need to use credit, my credit card company charges exorbitant currency conversion fees so it makes the pain of overspending even greater. I think it ends up being about the same as what Paypal charges that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mesh said: Thanks dee... I was just about to ask if anyone has got the boxed set yet.....I ordered mine on 6/1 and no news on the delivery date from T&S. Me three. Fortunately I have enough toys to keep me busy for the time being. Could be why T&S added the bonuses to the pot. Edited June 6, 2021 by Doug Rintoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Mesh said: Thanks dee... I was just about to ask if anyone has got the boxed set yet.....I ordered mine on 6/1 and no news on the delivery date from T&S. I ordered the Upgrade to KUCE13 from KU on June 2nd. ($293 - refund $23 = $270) T&S sent me a reply, yesterday --------------------------------------------- Hello, Thanks for getting in touch. Due to a delay in shipping from Native Instruments we are delayed in shipping your order. Please be assured as soon as we receive our stock, we will ship the same day by your chosen method of delivery. In the meantime, you can download the free products that are included with this purchase. The information to download the free products has been sent to your email address, if you have any issues with this download please reach out to us and we'd be happy to help 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Carpenter Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I’m very glad I waited. I cancelled my EastWest sub and updated my UCE12 to 13 and paid the £224.50. I like owning my major instruments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted June 6, 2021 Author Share Posted June 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Craig Nichols said: In case you weren't aware of this, there's an option when you're paying through paypal and it shows you the converted rate in your local currency, "View currency conversion options" that allows you to pay in the original currency and then you'll get your own banks exchange rates. My bank gives pretty much the exchange rate, and because we have our home loan with them they don't charge currency conversion fees, so it works out saving me money each time. Unfortunately when I'm spending above and beyond and need to use credit, my credit card company charges exorbitant currency conversion fees so it makes the pain of overspending even greater. I think it ends up being about the same as what Paypal charges that way. But NI is charging in my local currency on it’s website, so I cannot change it. I changed it on T&S to pay in US dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Mesh said: Thanks dee... I was just about to ask if anyone has got the boxed set yet.....I ordered mine on 6/1 and no news on the delivery date from T&S. Mesh, I ordered my boxed set of K13U from Time and Space but it's been quiet. I logged into their website to look at my order but nothing shipped yet. Oh well, I can be patient.😙 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just a curiousity question... How do the Free instruments get delivered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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