Shane_B. Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I took a trip up to Iowa today to visit my in-laws and grabbed a few cds to listen to. I got the remixed/remastered anniversary editions of Sgt. Pepper, The White Album, and Abbey Road for Christmas and this was my first chance to listen to them. It's a 3 hour drive up there. They were good and I liked the included demo discs but some of the tracks were changed. I know every breath, every ad lib, every tiny little thing forward and backward on these albums and they definitely changed some things. Are they better than the original cd releases ... I have to say no. I have all of the original cd releases and I have a cd set made from the metal masters. It sounds to me that Giles went way overboard with the notching out of instruments and compression. The originals have a more even frequency spread but these you can hear each and every instrument and vocal individually almost too much imo. I did listen to a little of Abbey Road on my home stereo and the bass was overwhelming. Way over the top. I thought Come Together was going to blow my sub the bass was so loud. It's perfect on the original release though. Anyone else have the latest versions? What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I like. I have often thought that with distribution as it is, you could have different mixes To choose from. I'm sorry you didn't dig it. They don't supplant the originals. They compliment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Screed Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I have the mono masters box that was released a while back for everything up to Magical Mystery Tour. I find them to be real good. I can't comment on the ones you have, but I would guess they are different, they are remasters. Isn't this what usually happens when they remaster stuff. Just ask Bit what he thinks about All Thing Must Pass remaster. The same thing happened when Coke changer their recipe, Macdonalds fries stopped using beef tallow, and they started adding ethanol to gasoline. Your conclusions are valid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) I played the whole album All Things Must Pass on YouTube recently. I had forgotten how good it was. I didn't appreciate it as much when I was a kid but it's completely different to me now. I noticed some changes on it too. I can't wait for the new Let It Be movie to come out this summer I think. I hope they do a box set set with the movie and album and some other goodies. Edited May 30, 2021 by Shane_B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shane_B. said: I can't wait for the new Let It Be movie to come out this summer I think. I'll wait another 20 years for the re-mastered neural attached plugin version of the movie. Hyuk hyuk I quack me up. Edited May 30, 2021 by Bapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Gswitz said: I like. I have often thought that with distribution as it is, you could have different mixes To choose from. I'm sorry you didn't dig it. They don't supplant the originals. They compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Bapu said: I'll wait another 20 years for the re-mastered neural attached plugin version of the movie. By then will it really matter for you Ed. You won't be able to hear the difference. Heck you might not even be able to hear 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Screed Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Shane_B. said: I played the whole album All Things Must Pass on YouTube recently. I had forgotten how good it was. I didn't appreciate it as much when I was a kid but it's completely different to me now. I noticed some changes on it too. I can't wait for the new Let It Be movie to come out this summer I think. I hope they do a box set set with the movie and album and some other goodies. Shane, check out Let it Be Naked if you have some free time. I find it to be very good. But like gswitz said, it is another version, but without the wall of sound. You can find all kinds of conflicting opinions from the Beatles themselves about the Specter Let it Be. Naked is "just" what it sounded like, in the room, at the time, of the recording. Now the beatles are an industry unto themselves, and "they" love to generate content to distribute for various reasons, one being profit. On Naked though, I do believe they demonstrated that they were one damn fine band. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Shane_B. said: I got the remixed/remastered anniversary editions of Sgt. Pepper, The White Album, and Abbey Road for Christmas and this was my first chance to listen to them. It's a 3 hour drive up there. Anyone else have the latest versions? What do you think? 1 hour ago, Jesse Screed said: Shane, check out Let it Be Naked if you have some free time. I find it to be very good. But like gswitz said, it is another version, but without the wall of sound. You can find all kinds of conflicting opinions from the Beatles themselves about the Specter Let it Be. Naked is "just" what it sounded like, in the room, at the time, of the recording. On Naked though, I do believe they demonstrated that they were one damn fine band. I got all of the above for my birthday a few years ago. Have always had "the best of" and various Beatles "anthologies" on hand, but finally decided to get a hold of the actual album format themselves, as the digital remasters. I like! But the most interesting thing was in comparing "Let It Be" with "Let It Be... Naked". Very revealing. But I like them both... Hell, it's still the Beatles, right? Quote McCartney's attitude contrasted with Lennon's from over two decades earlier. In his December 1970 interview with Rolling Stone magazine, Lennon had defended Spector's work, saying, "He was given the shittiest load of badly recorded shit – and with a lousy feeling to it – ever. And he made something out of it ... When I heard it, I didn't puke." Harrison and Ringo Starr also remained complimentary about Spector's contribution, with Starr saying: "I like what Phil did … There's no point bringing him in if you're not going to like the way he does it" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_It_Be..._Naked 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) On 5/30/2021 at 7:01 AM, Gswitz said: I like. I have often thought that with distribution as it is, you could have different mixes To choose from. I'm sorry you didn't dig it. They don't supplant the originals. They compliment. I don't mind the changes to the mixes but how he changed them sonically was overdone for me. I really did think Come Together blew my sub cone. The entire house shook. I have it calibrated for music and listen with it all the time and that's never happened. I guess what I was expecting was an equal to or better than Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs type release coming from Abbey Road Studios and Giles Martin. A pristine re-release of the originals. I'm still glad I got them though. The Vinyl Rewind youtube guy said he preferred the vinyl releases of these cds. I may pick them up some day. Edited June 1, 2021 by Shane_B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 this sounds like a reMIX rather than a reMASTER? a re-master takes the original pre-master mix, like "from the original analog tapes" - -if someone (giles, i'm looking at you) is *****ing about with the pre-master mix, that's a remix fwiw, i haven't heard them, never had a reason to think the beatles needed any tweaking... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 10 hours ago, pwalpwal said: fwiw, i haven't heard them, never had a reason to think the beatles needed any tweaking... And yet they tweaked a lot! 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, craigb said: And yet they tweaked a lot! 🤣 Yup, just listen to any of the demos or alternate takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, craigb said: And yet they tweaked a lot! 🤣 1 minute ago, Bapu said: Yup, just listen to any of the demos or alternate takes. Just like any band. And John Lennon said he wanted to redo Across The Universe (and maybe a few others IIRC). Edited June 1, 2021 by Bapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 the beatles' own tweaking is not the same as the producer's son's tweaking 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 hours ago, pwalpwal said: the beatles' own tweaking is not the same as the producer's son's tweaking Technically speaking, The Beatles never tweaked the mixes. They weren't allowed. Engineers did that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbognar Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I'm love the remixes and the demos, especially the Abbey Road package - and I'm a mega Beatles fan. I know what you mean by the instruments being too discrete - sometimes stacked or smeared sounds of the originals are cool because they blur the boundaries of where one thing ends and another begins. Having said that, I rarely go back to the originals. I just really like clarity. I listen on headphones 97% of the time. Yes, the bass could be evened out on AR, but having better drums and a nice stereo spread is worth it for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 There's been mix changes several times over the years. One example is I had 2 different versions of Rubber Soul. On one version I'm Looking Through You had a false start amd on the other version they edited it out. The mix changes I heard weren't in every song and were few and far between. But the few I heard coupled with the extreme remaster kinda caught me off guard. It could also be that I'm totally wrong and I was just hearing things that were always there that I never noticed that the remastering brought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 hours ago, pbognar said: 97% 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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