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15 minutes ago, Ferenc Hegedus said:

Hello

 

I asked in Q&A but I will ask this here too because I tried different things and seems like it's somehow related to 2021.04 update.

 

 Yesterday I installed CbB 2021.01 on my laptop to check out what's going on (I had only the latest Platinum on my laptop until now and don't have this problem).

If  Non desctrutive MIDI editing is enabled the MIDI clip always stays intact, if Non desctrutive MIDI editing is disabled the MIDI clip always cut to the last note in the clip.

Then I updated CbB to the latest version 27.04.0.175 (2021-04).

When Non desctrutive MIDI editing is enabled, if I move a MIDI clip (drag with left mouse click) the length of the clip will be cut to the end of the last MIDI note. If I CTRL+C and CTRL+V or CTRL+left mouse click and drag to  duplicate, the lenght won't change.

When Non desctrutive MIDI editing is disabled (unchecked) the length of the clip will be cut to the end of the last MIDI note in all 3 cases.

 

It looks like, it has something to do with this update but i don't see anyone else to mention this problem. 

 

Confirmed this is a regression.

It's fixed for the next release.

 

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@msmcleod @scook

 

Teleport Server(32 bits)

I have encountered some crashes when exporting the mix.

The application is in "not responding" status.

From the Task Manager I identify that there are only two applications running: Cakewalk and Teleport Server (32) bits.

I know that Teleport Server acts as a layer for 32 vst plugins.

In my preferences I changed the values as below.

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The question is: is there any way to optimize or avoid this lockdown of the mix export process?

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1 hour ago, Milton Sica said:

@msmcleod @scook

 

Teleport Server(32 bits)

I have encountered some crashes when exporting the mix.

The application is in "not responding" status.

From the Task Manager I identify that there are only two applications running: Cakewalk and Teleport Server (32) bits.

I know that Teleport Server acts as a layer for 32 vst plugins.

In my preferences I changed the values as below.

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The question is: is there any way to optimize or avoid this lockdown of the mix export process?

 

Maybe the 32-bit plugin you're wrapping doesn't support fast bounce.

You could try doing a real-time bounce.

The only other thing is to try JBridge instead - it may cope with it better.  BitBridge (Teleport Server) is a very simple wrapper, whereas JBridge has far more options to tweak that may get around this issue... however, if it is just that the plugin doesn't support fast bounce, it probably won't help.

Which 32 bit plugin are you using?

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9 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Maybe the 32-bit plugin you're wrapping doesn't support fast bounce.

You could try doing a real-time bounce.

The only other thing is to try JBridge instead - it may cope with it better.  BitBridge (Teleport Server) is a very simple wrapper, whereas JBridge has far more options to tweak that may get around this issue... however, if it is just that the plugin doesn't support fast bounce, it probably won't help.

Which 32 bit plugin are you using?

In one of the projects I use some 32 vst plugins.

How to install and run JBrige on Cakewalk ?

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jBridge is a stand-alone program used as an adapter for converting 64-bit plugins to 32-bit ones and vice versa.

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6 hours ago, Milton Sica said:

In one of the projects I use some 32 vst plugins.

How to install and run JBrige on Cakewalk ?

You just run the setup forJBridge.  Cakewalk has in built JBridge support, so don't run a scan within JBridger application.

In Cakewalk, set this property in the plugins properties. I normally do this from the Plugin Manager:

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5 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

You just run the setup forJBridge.  Cakewalk has in built JBridge support, so don't run a scan within JBridger application.

Sorry, I didn't know that jBridge integrates into Cakewalk by BandLab!

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6 hours ago, Vyacheslav said:

Sorry, I didn't know that jBridge integrates into Cakewalk by BandLab!

once you go JBridge you'll never look back 🙂 

(because its much better than the bitbridge, and if you need a bridge for your plugins, get the best one)

Edited by Glenn Stanton
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@Milton Sica  / @Vyacheslav  - FYI... one of the main reasons for using the inbuilt Cakewalk JBridge integration, and not using JBridger to create a wrapper, is that Cakewalk will retain the original plugin id, whereas when using a JBridger wrapper it will be seen as a different plugin.

So basically, if you use Cakewalk's JBridge support, then loading previous projects with wrapped 32 bit plugins will simply work.

If you use a wrapper created by the JBridger scanner, then it won't be picked up by your previous projects.
 

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sorry for the confusion on my post - i just use the JBridge integration, never the wrapper.

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2 hours ago, msmcleod said:

@Milton Sica  / @Vyacheslav  - FYI... one of the main reasons for using the inbuilt Cakewalk JBridge integration, and not using JBridger to create a wrapper, is that Cakewalk will retain the original plugin id, whereas when using a JBridger wrapper it will be seen as a different plugin.

So basically, if you use Cakewalk's JBridge support, then loading previous projects with wrapped 32 bit plugins will simply work.

If you use a wrapper created by the JBridger scanner, then it won't be picked up by your previous projects.
 

very good, but should i install JBridger?

For me the plugin properties appear with the box to load the jBridge package without being able to check it.

 

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1 hour ago, Milton Sica said:

very good, but should i install JBridger?

For me the plugin properties appear with the box to load the jBridge package without being able to check it.

 

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Yes install it, but don't do a scan / create wrappers within jbridger. 

Cakewalk will pick up the JBridger libraries once its installed, and the option will then become available in Cakewalk's plugin properties.

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14 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

 

Great. Two questions:

1) Do you have any suggestions for downloading the most updated version of JBridger?
2) Is there anything in the Cakewalk documentation that references this improved handling of VST 32 ?

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3 hours ago, Milton Sica said:

Great. Two questions:

1) Do you have any suggestions for downloading the most updated version of JBridger?
2) Is there anything in the Cakewalk documentation that references this improved handling of VST 32 ?

1 - https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

2 - "Different" not improved - I've got a few 32 bit plugins that do not behave in jBridge at all (lock up their GUI and then Cakewalk almost immediately), which are solid in BitBridge

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3 hours ago, Kevin Perry said:

1 - https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

2 - "Different" not improved - I've got a few 32 bit plugins that do not behave in jBridge at all (lock up their GUI and then Cakewalk almost immediately), which are solid in BitBridge

Thanks a lot for the help. I still have several doubts about the topic. 1) Should I brand Jbridge use for all plugins? 2) How to identify which plugins could be optimized with jBridge?

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6 hours ago, Milton Sica said:

Thanks a lot for the help. I still have several doubts about the topic. 1) Should I brand Jbridge use for all plugins? 2) How to identify which plugins could be optimized with jBridge?

1.  No - just non Cakewalk 32 bit plugins.
2.  If it's a 32 bit Cakewalk plugin, use BitBridge  otherwise use JBridge for other 32 bit plugins.  The only other plugins that benefit from JBridge are the UJAM virtual guitarist plugins ( yes, I know they're 64 bit, but they work much better in Cakewalk via JBridge ).

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3 hours ago, msmcleod said:

 

Great ! I was meditating... In the Preferences in VST 3 Migration there is the option Replace if possible in the Project load. I wondered if it wouldn't be good for Cakewalk to contain an option that would allow the markup to use JBridge when checking this installation on the user's workstation for 32-bit plugins. I think this would be very interesting especially when today we have the plugin menus identifying whether it is VST or VST3.

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Hi.  Just to make a suggestion.  Perhaps undoing some change in piano roll view doesn't eliminate the selection of notes I had made.  It's kind of bothersome to select meticulously many notes in the piano roll view, edit them in someway, undo the change, and then have all my preciously selected notes go away.  Pleaseeee.  It would make a world of difference for some of us.  Thank you for the updates by the way.  Really cool.  I haven't noticed anything strange. Just stuttered playback in projects with many plugins which I didn't experience before.  But I just updated windows too, so it may be on that side.  Perhaps some drivers issues.

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Posted (edited)

Hi, I would like to report a possible bug in the "convert MIDI continuous controller (CC) events to/from automation envelopes" function which occurs when values come from pitch wheel (Wheel).

I did not remember that the conversion function was only introduced for the first time in version 2021.04 and so I posted the message in the general section of the forum.

In order to avoid a double post, I report in this specific thread only the link to my message related to this possible bug, message in which I also attached two short demo videos.

Many thanks to everyone

Edited by Ronny.G

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Posted (edited)

Here's a problem not related to the last version (I did a rollback 'cause I'm finishing an album), but that came before.

I work with a Mackie Control Universal. It use to follow the tracks displayed in the mixer. But for some time, it doesn't anymore. When I mix, I hide the MIDI tracks in the mixer, but they remain on my MCU, any option I use :

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The function is not completely broken. If I choose "all the tracks", hidden track appear on the MCU. But there's no difference anymore between "tracks of track view" and "tracks on mixer view".

I'll be very glad if you could fix this. Very. 

Notice that if I hide the MIDI tracks in the track view, they disappear from my MCU.

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