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Are Z3TA 2, Rapture Classic and Dimension Pro still functional and good sounding compared to actual established names ?

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17 minutes ago, abacab said:

 

See my post earlier in this thread for a link to the free e-book "How to Make a Noise - a comprehensive guide to synthesizer programming" that covers many aspects of programming synth sounds.

The author uses the original version of Surge from Vember Audio, along with 5 other synths, including Cakewalk z3ta+ classic (many thoughts here  should also apply to Z3TA+2). Gives examples and comparisons of synth features, covering topics such as envelopes, filtering, sound sources, wave shaping, LFOs, and modulations.

Hard to believe that Surge was a $150 synth back in the day (2005 - 2007)!  Now free! Even z3ta+ classic was $99.

Ironically, Surge was the Serum of his time...Including being developed by the guy that created Serum.

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1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

Ironically, Surge was the Serum of his time...Including being developed by the guy that created Serum.

Wait, what? Surge was the new kid on the block back in the day, but...

Not the same guy! 🙄

The guy that created Serum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Duda

The guy that created Surge: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/about/

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On 12/19/2020 at 10:38 AM, PopStarWannabe said:

And I don't want to invest time in, say, learning the waveshapers in Z3TA 2 and one day wake up and find out that it stopped working due to a change in Windows 10, or who knows, because it's not supported anymore.

 

In pre-digital days it was like milking an old piece of gear you knew was going to fall over eventually... parts were oft times unobtanium lol.

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20 minutes ago, John Nelson said:

parts were oft times unobtanium lol.

"unobtanium". Funny! Haven't heard that word in a while!

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On 12/26/2020 at 6:21 PM, abacab said:

Wait, what? Surge was the new kid on the block back in the day, but...

Not the same guy! 🙄

The guy that created Serum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Duda

The guy that created Surge: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/about/

Bitwig, not Surge. My bad.

On another note, a lot of people are hoping the guy releases the source code of Shortcircuit so people can continue working on it.

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I used to use DimPro, Rapture, & Z3TA a lot.
Pentagon worked as a decent vocoder too.

I've still got the original discs and downloaded copies of the installers of the final versions when CW went bust.
Not got any of them loaded onto my current PC though.

Nowadays I just use the Arturia V Collection

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I am a Folksinger who mostly uses Cakewalk for Demos, so I'm mostly interested in realistic acoustic sounds.  I've found 90% of what I need in Dim Pro 1.5.  I've bought two "world" add-ons to get instruments like hammered dulcimer, bowed psaltery, etc., and I run those through Dim Pro as well.  

I HAVE bought separate sounds to get a better banjo sound, though.  

What really helps is writing parts that those instruments would actually play.  Lots of folks hate string, woodwind, or brass sounds because they don't know how to write for the instrument they're trying to imitate.  

I'm sure if I was interested in coming up with unique synth sounds, I'd make other choices.  Or use the rack of analog synths I have left over from my rock and roll days.  🙂

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