aidan o driscoll Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) Hiya Just thought I would drop this here as a warning to some. I am in IT and have installed this or its been auto installed on many systems but recently I have ran into issues with it on other systems randomly. The issues I have had on various systems are: - slow to download / install but succeeded BUT then made windows usage crawl along with slow load and shutdown - slow to download / install and gave blue screen / recovery at boot .. only way out is to go back to earlier version This includes my Core i5, Win 10 pro, 16GB Dell inspiron laptop. Just went back to 2004 and the system is back to super fast peak condition vs under 20H2 I STRESS .. THIS IS FOR SOME PEOPLES SYSTEMS, NOT FOR ALL, MANY WILL INSTALL, HAVE IT INSTALLED WITHOUT ANY DIFFICULTY Edited December 16, 2020 by aidan o driscoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Whenever Windows wants to make an update, I do a disk image on Acronis first. That way if it goes sour, and I can't un-do it in Windows itself, I can restore the old disk image. I do the same for any new piece of software or update that gets installed on my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Notes_Norton said: Whenever Windows wants to make an update, I do a disk image on Acronis first. That way if it goes sour, and I can't un-do it in Windows itself, I can restore the old disk image. I do the same for any new piece of software or update that gets installed on my computer. Same here - even though a failed update can "restore" the original image (and there's the built in restore function even if it succeeds), I don't fully trust it. Being able to just re-image a known working system is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Hmm ... I'm still on 1909. Am I missing out on anything (other than potential problems)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz Hupfer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Hi🙂 Installed today and everyting's fine so far. I have to have a closer look tomorrow but what I've seen it's OK! Bassman P.S. For sure made a backup before with Ashampoo Backup Pro. Saved my life a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) i keep my working files and critical configuration settings backed up daily to the cloud(s). all install programs (current ones) as well. then if my system craps, i re-install the OS and the app, then restore configurations. i've found patching up systems after a crash is generally unhelpful, and many times a backup file contains some of the issues that will cause it to crash again... as a note, i also redo my OS drives about once every 2 years just to clear out the junk that accumulates and only reinstall things i'm actively using - sort of like a spring cleaning, only once every few springs 😉 if i really need something i didn't install i just download from the cloud and install it. this is what i'm running and so far rock solid: Windows 10 Pro 20H2 19042.685 Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0 Edited December 13, 2020 by Glenn Stanton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristiano Sadun Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I'm using a Corsair gaming keyboard and of all things, that driver crashed and started a BSOD cycle. Thanks to Windows RE, I managed to remove it and all is fine. But annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I've not had any issues with 20H2 so far... although getting it installed was a bit of a chore on my main studio pc. I must have tried 20-30 times to upgrade to both 2020 & 20H2, and had a BSOD every time on the 2nd boot. In the end, the issue turned out to be Korg's USB driver (comes with the nanoKONTROL series). This is only used by the Korg Editor software and isn't needed for normal use. I've got a Windows 7 boot partition with this installed, so its not a big deal. I also suspect NI's WinCDEmu driver was causing issues too (this is only required for Windows 7), so I uninstalled that too. It was plain sailing from then on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) I know I'm not the norm, but I'm just quick at rebuilding my system drive. I don't make backups prior to updates. My computer is just for my hobby. I don't impact clients when i reinstall. But starting fresh just isn't that hard for me. I almost never need to, but sometimes i swap in a new drive. Edited December 14, 2020 by Gswitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I back up data daily on a drive that gets removed from the system. I do a disk image once a week on another drive that gets removed. I do a disk image once a month on yet another drive that gets removed, and keep many months of disk images on that drive. That should protect me from anything my AV software doesn't get. I use one of those SATA drive docking stations, and remove the drives when not in use, so if anyone attacks the computer, they are not getting to the backups. I don't trust the cloud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: I back up data daily on a drive that gets removed from the system. I do a disk image once a week on another drive that gets removed. I do a disk image once a month on yet another drive that gets removed, and keep many months of disk images on that drive. That should protect me from anything my AV software doesn't get. I use one of those SATA drive docking stations, and remove the drives when not in use, so if anyone attacks the computer, they are not getting to the backups. I don't trust the cloud. obsess much? 🙂 J.K. i am going out to get one of those docking stations for Christmas, i'm a fan of the cloud but like local backups as well. ref: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 One thing I found out is that you can replace your computer, but you can't replace your data. The nice thing about that docking station is you can have different hard drives to back up different things. Just pop them in and out like a toaster. Notes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just get a GOOD brand of data toaster! I had one that corrupted a few hard drives and I'm still pissed about that (it corrupted the ORIGINALS so I lost a lot of data permanently...🤬). I've had good luck with Thermaltake though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Flintstone Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 3:53 AM, Wibbles said: Hmm ... I'm still on 1909. Am I missing out on anything (other than potential problems)? I'm still on 1903 with my main machines, my laptops are on whatever Microsoft has dished out, the Laptops are nothing important so I don't really care, but they seem to work OK. Not that they get used for anything other than going on the Net and downloading files etc. Haven't noticed anything undesirable, I don't look into any new stuff that gets added or anything like that, If the laptops were running Pro they would likely still be on 1903 as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I seldom have a problem with a windows update. It's just nice to have that backup - just in case. The time the Disk Imaging software saved me the most was when I bought a guitar pedal (FX/amp sim) that came with a LE edition of Cubase. I use Master Tracks Pro, Power Tracks Pro Audio, Cakewalk, and Audacity. I was curious so I slipped the CD in, and began the install. I got some kind of an error message, and the installation was aborted. I turned off the computer, waited a minute and turned it back on. A message came up telling me the install was aborted, and asked if I wanted to continue. The only option was "Yes". It got stuck again in the same place (perhaps the CD was corrupted???). Off/on/same thing. Stuck in a loop. I tried Ctrl+Alt+Delete when the box came up, thought I got rid of it, rebooted, no dice. I tried a few other things and nothing could get me out of the loop. Fortunately I made a disk image before installing the software. I put in the rescue disk, initialized the restore, and sector by sector the software restored my hard drive. I tossed the Cubase disk in the trash. The backups are an insurance policy. They seem like a bit of a bother until you need them. When you do they are a sigh of relief. Insights and incites by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Fret Flintstone said: I'm still on 1903 with my main machines, my laptops are on whatever Microsoft has dished out, the Laptops are nothing important so I don't really care, but they seem to work OK. Not that they get used for anything other than going on the Net and downloading files etc. Haven't noticed anything undesirable, I don't look into any new stuff that gets added or anything like that, If the laptops were running Pro they would likely still be on 1903 as well. You may (or not) want to consider upgrading at some point: iirc each release is normally supported for 18 months - 1903 would have been released around March 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 9:40 AM, craigb said: How do you like the meme I created ? I like how you put it on your site and took all traces of me out of it . Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said: How do you like the meme I created ? I like how you put it on your site and took all traces of me out of it . Kenny Craig nick someone else's meme? Shurely not! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 You made that one Kenny? Good job! 👍 If I knew that, I definitely WOULD have given you credit! However, I found that one several months ago by doing a Google search, liked it and saved it. I've also created a lot over the years and it's kind of cool to see others using them. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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