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Only 3 Days 8 h : 52 m : 03 s left to get a good deal on Eric Claptons 1954 Strat

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11 minutes ago, BassDaddy said:

Not going to buy it today. I could get something else with the money I save. Like an apartment building

apartment buildings are so yesterday.

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7 hours ago, telecode 101 said:

I think that's an apple and oranges (and pears) comparison

The Chuck Berry guitar had no real history

"This guitar came out of Berry’s personal collection, and used for a private performance in Seattle April 13th, 2002. Berry then gave the guitar to business mogul Mike Malone, and Berry signed the guitar in black felt pen, adding a drawing beneath the signature."  (thanks Mike !)

The Clapton guitar was a bit of a classic - lots of history ....same with the Ry Cooder one but Ry doesn't sell as many albums.

I'd love that Coodercaster though .....wonder if it's the same one on the cover of Bop Til You Drop, pre major customization.  Think that had the matching blue headstock and bound fingerboard too.

edit - yes it's the one from the BtyD cover

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11 minutes ago, simon said:

I think that's an apple and oranges (and pears) comparison

The Chuck Berry guitar had no real history

"This guitar came out of Berry’s personal collection, and used for a private performance in Seattle April 13th, 2002. Berry then gave the guitar to business mogul Mike Malone, and Berry signed the guitar in black felt pen, adding a drawing beneath the signature."  (thanks Mike !)

The Clapton guitar was a bit of a classic - lots of history ....same with the Ry Cooder one but Ry doesn't sell as many albums.

I'd love that Coodercaster though .....wonder if it's the same one on the cover of Bop Til You Drop, pre major customization.  Think that had the matching blue headstock and bound fingerboard too.

edit - yes it's the one from the BtyD cover

no. i believe its not. the Bop Til You Drop is a different guitar. There was  a story about it somewhere I read.

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21 minutes ago, telecode 101 said:

no. i believe its not. the Bop Til You Drop is a different guitar. There was  a story about it somewhere I read.

think that's the same - same headstock (same year give or take) - Daphne blue - bound neck.   I don't believe bound necks on Strats ever went on general release. 

 

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33 minutes ago, simon said:

think that's the same - same headstock (same year give or take) - Daphne blue - bound neck.   I don't believe bound necks on Strats ever went on general release. 

 

the PUs looks very different.

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23 minutes ago, telecode 101 said:

the PUs looks very different.

:)

obviously pre some of the major modifications 

just found this:

 

 

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1 hour ago, simon said:

:)

obviously pre some of the major modifications 

just found this:

 

 

so thats "the" cooder caster.

The vid you posted before that is I think the Strat that is now on sale on Reverb. but it's pre modification. the lapsteel pickup and the bigsby are not there yet. 

 

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Fender Stratocaster owned and played by Ry Cooder Model Solid Body Electric Guitar, c. 1967, made in Fullerton, California, serial # 144953,  blue lacquer finish, alder body, maple neck with rosewood fingerboard, road case. "Coodercaster" has become an entire sub-genre of Stratocasters over the last couple of decades, meaning a guitar built or modified to emulate the eccentricities of Ry Cooder's personal instruments. This is THE original Coodercaster, the guitar that was the first Strat the man himself owned, modified, and subsequently played for decades. Here in Ry's own words is his history with the instrument:"Captain Beefheart got a record deal with Buddha Records and a Fender endorsement; modern youth target marketing had just been invented, you see. I was told, you go down to the Fender factory in Fullerton, and speak to so-and-so, and he'll set you up. I saw the production machines and met some workers, and then the fellow took me in a show room where they had their new things and prototypes. The guy pulled this baby blue Stratocaster off the shelf and said, 'here'. I drove home and sat there trying to figure what it might be good for, having never owned an electric solid body guitar."Soon after, I realized Beefheart and I werent going to succeed as co-workers, and went in to the record company and said so. The head of A&R, Bob Krasnow, was lying on the couch in his office and he waived his arms at me and shouted, 'You'll never work in Los Angeles again! And give me back that guitar!' I left the office and the job, such as it was, but I kept the instrument. The next thing was, I got invited to go to London and stand idly by while the Rolling Stones messed around in the studio with Jack Nitzsche, who was a friend of mine from session work. I took the Strat with me, and one evening, the ONE evening, I actually played it. The tape machine was running, if you're interested. The rest is a kind of history we needn't go back into here."Soon after, I stumbled into a record deal of my own at Warner Bros, and started up making my own personal records. The Blue Strat was, at that time, still my only electric. I used it on all the early albums. Since I used mostly open tunings, I had a repair guy take out the wang bar springs and put a wood block in there to hold down the intonation every time I changed tunings. Now, years later, I wouldn't have done that, but what did I know. "Then I started experimenting with electronics, trying for a thicker sound. P90s came and went. I had the bright idea to install an Oahu lap steel bridge pick up. It was the thing to do to help the bottle neck sound relax and it stopped the headaches."That's the short story. I still think the neck is one of the best I've ever played, and the Bigsby trailer brake really makes a sweet combination. That's an original Bigsby PU in there, and yes it's somewhat microphonic like early Bigsbys are sometimes, and it takes a little getting used to, like when you put that '53 Cad motor in the Model A, but you can learn to handle it. Or try some idea of your own."That "short story" only begins to describe the mojo of this guitar. This was the only electric Ry Cooder used for the earlier part of his career, heard on many recordings and seen live extensively for many years. Even before it was handed to Ry, this was a special guitar. He received it in 1967 from the Fender sales showroom, where it may have languished for a time beforehand. In the spring of 1966 CBS was tweaking the specs of the Fender line and made a VERY few custom color Stratocaster and Precision Bass production samples with bound fingerboards and matching headstocks, features never used on production models. This guitar's tuners were originally Klusons, suggesting the earlier dating. This may well be the ONLY baby blue Strat of its type ever made, and one of a handful of similar samples to have escaped Fullerton in the 1960s.Overall length is 39 1/4 in. (99.7 cm.), 12 5/8 in. (32.1 cm.) wide at lower bout, and 1 3/4 in. (4.4 cm.) deep. Scale length is 25 1/2 in. (648 mm.). Width of nut is 1 5/8 in. (41 mm.). This Strat has been a test-bed for Ry's sonic experiments for decades and been modified innumerable times. In its current state, it is set up with an original Bigsby 8-string steel pickup at the bridge and a c. 1959 Guyatone pickup at the neck. These are wired to a 4-way switch and two Tele-style knobs. The original bridge and trem are replaced with a top-mounted Bigsby and solid Bigsby aluminum bridge saddle. The jack cup is reversed, a brilliant mod that works great. The tuners are later, probably Gotoh-made Rotomatic style, and the strap buttons are older Straploks. After decades of playing, touring, and recording one would expect this guitar to show a modicum of wear, and it does. It has also obviously been well-cared for, and the somewhat fragile original Fender Custom Color lacquer actually remains in surprisingly good shape, evenly faded and checked but not he

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On 12/7/2020 at 5:03 AM, telecode 101 said:

So the Clapton Layla guitar went for $1+M

Where's the proof on the Clapton Strat having sold ? The auction has it listed as not sold w no bids

Kenny

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my bad. i thought they sold it. come on there has got to be a rich doctor or lawyer who is sitting on too much cash and is into Clapton.

 

 

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On 12/8/2020 at 1:46 PM, telecode 101 said:

my bad. i thought they sold it. come on there has got to be a rich doctor or lawyer who is sitting on too much cash and is into Clapton.

 

 

Alright!  I'm glad you stepped up .

have a good one ,

Kenny

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