Shortcut Keys Disabled - Tempo Ratio Controls

[R B Barbero]

I recently upgraded to Cakewalk version 2020.08 (build 100).  Corroborated with several other users on a Cakewalk Facebook support group, this new version has disabled some of the shortcut key bindings.  Although the bindings are still shown as established, and new bindings can be created with no problem, some of the shortcut keys work and others do not.

My issue in particular:  The Tempo Ratio Control buttons are VERY important to me.  I’ve set up Cntrl+1 as Tempo 1, Cntrl+2 as Tempo 2, and Cntrl+3 as Tempo 3.  In addition, I’ve added a shortcut for each that includes the Shift key as well, which then opens the dialog box to let me change each Tempo Ratio.  The new Cakewalk version seems to have disabled these shortcuts, or perhaps disabled the Tempo Ratio Control feature. 

Does Bandlab need to correct this as a bug?  Or re-enable Tempo Ratio Controls?  Or is there anything can do to recover these shortcuts?

[Promidi]

In the latest iterations of Cakewalk, for the tempo ratios to function in a given project, then all of the following conditions must exist in that project.

You must have a MIDI only project - no audio components (Even a VSTi synth will prevent tempo ratios)

You must set the clock of your project to "internal" - preferences | Project | Clock

You project's metronome must be set to "Use MIDI Note", not "use audio" - Preferences | Project | Metronome

The Audio engine must not be running


Any action that starts the audio engine will prevent the tempo ratios from functioning.

[R B Barbero]

Thank you.  Yes, I've been through all this before and all those conditions are met.  I should have mentioned that I checked all that.  Any other ideas? 

BTW, I'd sure like a feature that would allow Tempo Ratio Controls to be compatible with VST instruments.  I'd be able to miniaturize my studio further without the external hardware.

Thank you!

Edited August 22, 2020 by R B Barbero

[Promidi]

The only thing I can think of is that all 3 ratios are set to 1.0

If they are not (1 = 0.5 2 = 1 3 =2), then maybe drop a note to Cakewalk support.

https://help.cakewalk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000025633

(I hope they don't simply tell you it's a depreciated function)

Edited August 22, 2020 by Promidi

[R B Barbero]

The saga continues... After some "accidental" experimentation, I found that my Tempo Ratio Control shortcut key bindings are working properly with old projects that I have never opened and saved in Cakewalk by Bandlab.  My previous version was Sonar X2, but I also used Sonar v8PE alot.  So perhaps in recent CbB versions there's an option that was switched to a default that unintentionally conflicted with & disabled the Tempo Ratio Controls.  Maybe?

Also, how do I determine if the Audio Engine is running, and how do I turn it off if it is?  

Any ideas?  Thank you!

[R B Barbero]

I found it! Apparently all the files that I had ever opened and saved in CbB - the audio driver selection changed from ASIO to something else. The files at issue are midi only, using an external midi synth.

I thought that the audio driver preference was a Global setting, but the selection is indeed different in old vs new files.

This driver selection was "switched" to the first driver pulldown menu selection available with my upgrade to v2020.05, still present after my upgrade to v2020.08.

Thank  you for the help!

[Promidi]

I have loaded plenty of old Cakewalk pro audio 9 MIDI only WRK projects and it's never changed the Audio driver preferences.

They turn off the audio automatically when I open them because nothing in those projects use those audio engine.

Cakewalk is smart enough the turn off the audio engine if nothing in the project is using it.

But just to check, there is a little icon under the now counter (to he left of the MIDI panic button).  If that is lit, the audio engine is running. That has to be off for the tempo ratios to work.