Paul Young 1,007 Posted July 10, 2020 Not a fan of the 105 watts. Reminds me of old AMD processors. If previous chips are not available - I might be an all AMD guy again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Rintoul 153 Posted July 10, 2020 Why is this in Deals? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bapu 2,205 Posted July 10, 2020 Maybe he means "What's the deal with Intel 10th gen?" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 10th gen Intel Comet Lake CPUs: TDP = 125w 9th gen Intel Coffee Lake CPUs: TDP = 95w Socket-2066 Intel Cascade Lake CPUs: TDP = 165w AMD Ryzen-9 CPUs: TDP = 105w AMD Threadripper CPUs: TDP = 280w If you go AMD, it sure isn't going to help with TDP. This is partly why there's essentially no OC headroom on modern AMD CPUs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 You can run a 10900k with quality/large air-cooling. It's right about the limit of those coolers. You can't run a 10980xe (under load) with quality/large air-cooling (gets too hot under heavy loads). There's no way you can run Threadripper 3970x with large/quality air-cooling. Well... you can... but the CPU will thermal-throttle (defeating the whole purpose) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 BTW, You can configure the 10900k (using TDP-down) to achieve TDP of 95w. Of course, that means slower clock-speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 If you're after a pretty fast ultra-quiet machine, it's (still) hard to beat the 9900k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSMcGuitar 581 Posted July 10, 2020 I dunno, I'll be upgrading to a 10700k. I have Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 and from everything I've read, heat won't really be an issue at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Walton 680 Posted July 10, 2020 In Larry's absense, the deals section has lost all law and order....as well as actual deals. 🙄 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Rintoul 153 Posted July 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, Bapu said: Maybe he means "What's the deal with Intel 10th gen?" Oh, right. My mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, RSMcGuitar said: I'll be upgrading to a 10700k. I have Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 and from everything I've read, heat won't really be an issue at all. 10900k will run slightly hotter than the 10700k... and is (under heavy load)... right about the limit of what you'd want with air-cooling. ie: The 10900k's that we've tested/used have been able to run all 10 cores locked at 5.3GHz. That's about the limit of quality air-cooling. 😉 Assuming you also want the machine to run quiet (not like a vacuum cleaner)... Edited July 10, 2020 by Jim Roseberry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Young 1,007 Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Roseberry said: If you're after a pretty fast ultra-quiet machine, it's (still) hard to beat the 9900k. Yep I think 9 series >>>>>>>>>10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Roseberry 534 Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) FWIW, The 10900k is pretty nice. 10 cores all locked at 5.3GHz is a formidable machine. It's slightly louder than the 9900k (which is extremely quiet with all 8 cores all running at 5GHz). Given the two extra cores... and higher clock-speed... this is what you'd expect. If you compare the 10700x vs. the 9900k, that's where I'd take the 9900k. Lower TDP (95w vs 125w)... and essentially the same number of cores/clock-speed. Edited July 10, 2020 by Jim Roseberry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Young 1,007 Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Doug Rintoul said: Why is this in Deals? I wasn't payin attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites