Zo 3,260 Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, LAGinz said: Which Fender not in the Collections , Zo? The princeton and another one ... don t ask me why ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAGinz 642 Posted July 11, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 3:52 PM, ensconced said: MAX has zero appeal for me because I already have everything Amplitube except the Leslie's. As others have said, there is some good stuff in there, the Jet City, Z's to name 2, and some of the old stuff I find good, the American Vintage B (and it's mates) can sound pretty good with the Fulltone OCD in front, shut the Cab section down, quality 3rd party Cab IR, and tricked up a bit before and after Amplitube for example. But that's just to my ears, yours may tell a different story. The Leslies are not in this pack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zo 3,260 Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, LAGinz said: The Leslies are not in this pack? Nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Russ 783 Posted July 11, 2020 Wampler Pinnacle + Fender Princeton is one of my favorite combos. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
telecode 101 1,751 Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) there is only one effect i need from max, the swell effect. i cant be arsed to spend $15 on it. from what I read on other forms. the hidden treasures in the legacy AT are: Green BA250 V3M Edited July 11, 2020 by telecode 101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAGinz 642 Posted July 11, 2020 So it’s looking to me, since I have jampoints to get it down to 70, this may be barely worth it to me. Given that I’m on the fence , do you guys think there is any added advantage to having “MAX” for future upgrade or deals purposes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
telecode 101 1,751 Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, LAGinz said: So it’s looking to me, since I have jampoints to get it down to 70, this may be barely worth it to me. Given that I’m on the fence , do you guys think there is any added advantage to having “MAX” for future upgrade or deals purposes? i am not sure. there has been no word on any IKM summer group buy yet. Max is 70% old AT 3 plugins and effects I think. I think one needs to wait for a release statement on when (or if!) AT 5 gets released. Not sure about anything. The guitar VST market is so bloody crowded. IKM are going to have to start making a MAX package deal with elements of Tracks or other product lines to compete. And then there is also the very strong rumor possibility that NI are going to come in swinging with a new version of Guitar Rig. That is going to heat up the guitar VST market space. Edited July 11, 2020 by telecode 101 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSMcGuitar 1,206 Posted July 11, 2020 Yeah, there have been a ton of new amp sim plugins released since Amplitube 4 came out. IK will have to pull out something special for 5 if they want to compete. Last time they released 4 amps with Amplitube (the Marshalls) and it came with a few older Sims from 3 or even before that. That won't be enough for 5. They'd need to update some of the older stuff or add something bigger to hit sales like I'm guessing 4 did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zo 3,260 Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RSMcGuitar said: Yeah, there have been a ton of new amp sim plugins released since Amplitube 4 came out. IK will have to pull out something special for 5 if they want to compete. Last time they released 4 amps with Amplitube (the Marshalls) and it came with a few older Sims from 3 or even before that. That won't be enough for 5. They'd need to update some of the older stuff or add something bigger to hit sales like I'm guessing 4 did. gimme just something smooth like amp room or something else as a playground and i'm ok ... Ampire from presonus or Mercurial let you see in one pages stomps, amp , cabinets ect .....so i would love to see panels that you can open or close on demand ect .... Like Amps center , stomps left (or upper) , cabs / room right , racks in bottom with mics mixer and selection Edited July 11, 2020 by Zo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Russ 783 Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, telecode 101 said: i am not sure. there has been no word on any IKM summer group buy yet. Max is 70% old AT 3 plugins and effects I think. I think one needs to wait for a release statement on when (or if!) AT 5 gets released. Not sure about anything. The guitar VST market is so bloody crowded. IKM are going to have to start making a MAX package deal with elements of Tracks or other product lines to compete. And then there is also the very strong rumor possibility that NI are going to come in swinging with a new version of Guitar Rig. That is going to heat up the guitar VST market space. I'm really skeptical about Guitar Rig 6. Guitar Rig 5 came out in 2011 (?) and the added amp models weren't competitive even back then. I've seen a lot of references to job postings at NI over the years which mention GR, but not a lot of deliverables. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Russ 783 Posted July 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Zo said: The princeton and another one ... don t ask me why ... It's a '57 Champ. I thought that those two models came out before the Fender Collections came out, but they both have patches which contain effects from the Fender 1 collection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Maar 852 Posted July 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Magic Russ said: I'm really skeptical about Guitar Rig 6. Guitar Rig 5 came out in 2011 (?) and the added amp models weren't competitive even back then. I've seen a lot of references to job postings at NI over the years which mention GR, but not a lot of deliverables. And the most recent version, v5.2.2, was released in June, 2016. The first item in the change log? REMOVING outdated hardware drivers. Just one reason I broke down and bought A4Max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter - IK Multimedia 2,548 Posted August 5, 2020 Note that this promotion Ampocalypse MAX has been extended through the end of August 2020. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grem 3,894 Posted August 6, 2020 There are some gems in the Rack section of AT. The Fulltone chorus is one of them. I can see why some would want to run a synth/vocals through it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zo 3,260 Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Grem said: There are some gems in the Rack section of AT. The Fulltone chorus is one of them. I can see why some would want to run a synth/vocals through it. True , the fender and dimbag are also great , i really hope ik will release like waves a pedals board componnent and rack to be use used alone ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grem 3,894 Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Zo said: True , the fender and dimbag are also great , i really hope ik will release like waves a pedals board componnent and rack to be use used alone ... Yes agreed. It's really a shame to keep those locked into AT. All those effects are stand alone plugins!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris.r 1,531 Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Grem said: There are some gems in the Rack section of AT. The Fulltone chorus is one of them. I can see why some would want to run a synth/vocals through it. electric and dx pianos... it's a missed opportunity that we can't run a stereo signal through the fulltone because all vsti use stereo output nowadays and collapsing to mono is a pita in such case 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter - IK Multimedia 2,548 Posted August 6, 2020 AmpliTube has routing options that are stereo, including stereo input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris.r 1,531 Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Peter - IK Multimedia said: AmpliTube has routing options that are stereo, including stereo input. Peter, I couldn't find it. All I have found is that if I select any of the stereo routing then either I have to pick a separate instance of TERC for each of the L/R side which makes no sense for a chorus, or the stereo signal is collapsed before entering rack module, which cancels any previous stereo effects. Could you please give a hint? I'm sitting in front of my amplitube now again fiddling with the settings... Cheers EDIT: any chance to see Fulltone as T-racks modules? Edited August 6, 2020 by chris.r 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan IK Multimedia 84 Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, chris.r said: Peter, I couldn't find it. All I have found is that if I select any of the stereo routing then either I have to pick a separate instance of TERC for each of the L/R side which makes no sense for a chorus, or the stereo signal is collapsed before entering rack module, which cancels any previous stereo effects. Could you please give a hint? I'm sitting in front of my amplitube now again fiddling with the settings... Cheers EDIT: any chance to see Fulltone as T-racks modules? Use the routing matrix in the upper left hand corner, then the pans in the mixer. There is both options for stereo input and output. I've demonstrated in the GIF below. Notice options 2 & 6 offer the option to switch between multi mono and stereo. If you're looking for a delay with stereo output, check out the RACK Digital Delay model. This offers a basic stereo option, doubler option, LCR, LR, and mono option. Edited August 6, 2020 by Ryan IK Multimedia 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites