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16 minutes ago, Carlos said:

PLEASE HELP if you can thanks.
(For youtube links copy paste please and add a "y" to the address at the beginning, because if I type it completely, it adds the video to my post.)

 

Hi there, I can get the Sennheiser HD599 for less than 110 bucks, should I get them?
Btw thanks for the recommendation.

Long read ahead, I hope you get the time to read, because I am desperate to get a good pair of cans, where I can enjoy listening to music 100% (all the time).

I feel I am not looking for the BEST image/clearness/clarity/realistic but something I can enjoy listening to music.
I just bought some Sony cheapos (I've got some Sony cheapo earphones too that I think sound very good
for the price, not harsh at all) headphones: Mdr-zx100, which I feel sound very good but still a little harsh sometimes 
(like 10% harsh out of 100%, but again, just sometimes). But at least with these I can enjoy finally enjoy listening to music.
Of course they don't compare to the Dt 990 pro's, but of course I have the DTPro 990 which I don't feel are bad per se,
but it's like nothing has punch, nothing is really defined...  nothing has weight.
Using Sonarworks Reference with these sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't. Depends on the song.
Then I had some AKG K240 Mark II, which were like 100% harsh/bright... sigh... I threw them to the garbage can (literally, lol).
I have some Vic Firth headphones (2nd version) for when I "track" or play drums along music, but these are just way bad (and harsh) for listening to music.

Just to give you examples:

outube.com/watch?v=eiNExzvMUpw&list=PLq0NvhGFn96US4-roX0CK1I6Jod8ovdr0&index=104&t=0s

This song sound pretty good on the DT 990 Pros, but kinda lame and HARSH and PHASEY (idk where all this phase artifacts come from, lol) with the new Sony Mdr-zx100 but the guitar and vocals sound so good on the DT 990 Pros, although sometimes it can become tiresome, idk why.

This other song 
outube.com/watch?v=PUdyuKaGQd4&list=PLq0NvhGFn96US4-roX0CK1I6Jod8ovdr0&index=48

sounds pretty good on the Sony Mdr-zx100, with punch, not phasey, and I don't feel I am losing detail (at 1:48 you can hear some background vocals done by the lead singer, pretty neat that they don't get lost) although the overall sound of the song feels colored a lot (I don't mind).
With the DT Pros I never get a good bass (kick) on that song, or power, I have to lower the volume, and if I attempt to get kind of achieve some sense of power with the song by raising the volume, they just fart FART bad (so I have to lower again the volume).

Then this
outube.com/watch?v=HJq3m-Ck2FI&list=PLq0NvhGFn96US4-roX0CK1I6Jod8ovdr0&index=107&t=0s

On the DT Pros 990 the kick just waits to fart if I raise the volume 1 more dB, lol. I don't care that they show there is a kick present there, I see NO POINT whatsoever to have a kick that you hear it's there but it's like it doesn't matter if you put it there or not, because it doesn't project energy...
Anyway, this song compared to on the Sony's, sounds bland as sht...

On bad guy, outube.com/watch?v=DyDfgMOUjCI
you definitely feel and hear the kick on the DT Pro 990, but the timbre is bad (I know my kicks, ok?). 
Funny in the Sony's where  I would think the kick would be very prominent, is more recessed but with so much better timber. And ofc it still drives the song.
Here the vocals sound so much SMOOTHER. Thank god.

Whoever invented these kind of headphones must be crazy... and filthy rich, lol. These type of headphones is called for "monitoring". My wallet hurts anyway...

If you  don't  enjoy listening to music with 599s  then honestly you should  forget about music and find a different hobby, that is my honest opinion.    And yes $110  is worth it.

 

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Whoooo that song was sooo clear and clean listening using my KRK KNS 8400    LOL 

 

Not sure about the site listed, but  I am sure about the headphones ...... 😎

Thanks  for the video Brian

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9 minutes ago, jesse g said:

Whoooo that song was sooo clear and clean listening using my KRK KNS 8400    LOL 

 

Not sure about the site listed, but  I am sure about the headphones ...... 😎

Thanks  for the video Brian

What video/song?

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6 minutes ago, Carlos said:

I suggested it, not Brian, :P

OOOPS. 

Sorry Carlos -  I just look up and saw Brian's name, however, it was indeed your post he quoted.

Well thanks for the video, it very nice singing  and the clarity in my headphones was awesome. (Biased 😁)

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Btw, how come I didnt' know about this (clearly the Beyerdynamic are super mega bright and don't respect the original song's sound, nor the AKG), thanks to Brian for suggesting the Sennheiser:
 

 

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On 1/17/2020 at 6:11 PM, Brian Walton said:

If you  don't  enjoy listening to music with 599s  then honestly you should  forget about music and find a different hobby, that is my honest opinion.    And yes $110  is worth it.

 

So I got the SE version, from Amazon on last Friday almost Saturday, and they arrived on Sunday! Great that Amazon delivers on Sunday, I didn't know!
Brian you know your sound, lol. 
These sound way better than my Beyerdynamic. Still a tad bright, but I feel it's the source now that may be the issue, not the headphones. I am using a system EQ to remove some 5k and 12k (just on some songs). But that alone does the trick.

I've read and asked that the HD650 could fix my bright issue completely. But for now these will suffice I guess.
(Or maybe return these and buy the HD650, I really liked these but perhaps... lol).
thanks for the recommendation, at least you gave me hope again, lol.

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2 hours ago, Carlos said:

So I got the SE version, from Amazon on last Friday almost Saturday, and they arrived on Sunday! Great that Amazon delivers on Sunday, I didn't know!
Brian you know your sound, lol. 
These sound way better than my Beyerdynamic. Still a tad bright, but I feel it's the source now that may be the issue, not the headphones. I am using a system EQ to remove some 5k and 12k (just on some songs). But that alone does the trick.

I've read and asked that the HD650 could fix my bright issue completely. But for now these will suffice I guess.
(Or maybe return these and buy the HD650, I really liked these but perhaps... lol).
thanks for the recommendation, at least you gave me hope again, lol.

650s   need a headphone amp to drive them.  They also sound "farther away" and more laid back.     (Think farther rows back at a concert).

I like both, but personally think more sources sound good on the 599s.   They are a good balance between in your face and not "in your head" agressive.  

650s feel more distant, which is great for some music and not quite right for others.

Other thing would be how are you driving the 599s, if you are not using a headphone amp, you might see some difference across the spectrum...but some sources will tend to be bright and  if you compensate with darker headphones, other sources would end up being too dark sounding.  

 

I also prefer the comfort of the 599 style, the 650s while above average in comfort  feel a bit "bigger" and always there on my head.  

 

Glad to hear you don't have to find a different hobby/passion.  

 

 

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The SE 5990's at $146.99  isn't bad with Free shipping from AMAZON

I like closed back headphones  because I don't want the bleed into the microphone, however, for the engineer, it wouldn't matter.

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32 minutes ago, jesse g said:

The SE 5990's at $146.99  isn't bad with Free shipping from AMAZON

I like closed back headphones  because I don't want the bleed into the microphone, however, for the engineer, it wouldn't matter.

I got mine (SE HD599) for 120 only! :P (and planning to get from Drop next month the 6XX which are supposed to be the 650).
Yeah, it would be great if I found a close back alternative too (I have the same concerns about bleeding into the mike.

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Mic bleed is a legit concern with each of these.

Never heard a closed back pair that even gets close though.  

 

Only use close backs for recording quiet sources with sensitive mics, and for the drummer so they don't have to compensate with damaging volume.

 

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