JP van Rumste

Thnx for the info. That settles that then, I suppose. Nevertheless -and not to put too fine a point on it- is it considered normal/acceptable that a midi output which channel is set to none still puts out midi? I'm quite sure that if an audio output set to none would still produce audio, this would not be tolerated.

Hi all. Apparently when one has a midi track in a project that is not used it's output is set to the standard midi out port as defined in preferences midi devices. And even if there is no midi out channel selected on the track channel dropdown menu the midi information is sent anyway. Is this normal behaviour for cakewalk? Or is it due to my setup? I use midi primarily to send control data via loopMIDI (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html) to VCV rack and secondarily to manipulate soft synths and plugins in cakewalk. As I just spent the better part of the morning thusfar to figure out that my project was going bonkers because of a midi track that wasn't supposed to send any data (the input echo is off, there's no output channel selected but the output is (automatically) set), I'm well, a tad annoyed. I'm also slightly mystified as to why the midi input can be set to none, but not the midi output. This can be done with audio tracks, why not midi tracks? By the way, I've noticed that midi inputs get changed when closing a project and reopening it; inputs that were set to none suddenly are set to all inputs, sometimes even to two inputs simultaneously. Just thought I'd mention it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Thnx in advance. Enjoy

Thank you very much. Visually the plugin (FX version) doesn't seem to react to the midi input , but it's clear that it receives the pitch from the midi signal. (This seems like such a well hidden feature I probably would have looked for it like forever without your help!) Enjoy.

After writing the above I realized that it might be important to add some more information about my setup. So, here goes. Win 10 pro 64 bit, latest bandlab cakewalk 64 bit, i7 Intel core laptop and, I think quite important, no external devices whatsoever; no soundcard, no midi-controllers, ... I use only the drivers provided by windows. The setup I use for the in the above topic mentioned routing is: As an instrument I use transition (https://www.codefn42.com/transition/index.html) to generate midi notes. On that track I can choose the relevant midi output channel. On a second track I use sforzando sample player (https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html) to generate sound. As an effect on that track I use Cynthia (https://plugins4free.com/plugin/789/) (FX version) which indeed gets the audio input and can be automated through the dedicated automation lanes, but it doesn't react to the midi notes from the transition instrument which is what I'd like to achieve. On the other hand when I insert another track with cynthia as a vst instrument it reacts to the midi notes from transition (if and when the relevant input is selected) but it doesn't get the external audio. This is as far as I got. Enjoy.

Hi all. Quite a few soft synths in my collection have external inputs, meaning there intended to process audio coming from an external source. I am, however, having a hard time figuring out if it is at all possible to get a soft synth (cynthia, in this case) to get and midi and audio input. I can get either audio input, using cynthia as an audio effect on an instrument track but then it doesn't get midi input, or I can get midi input using cynthia as an instrument on an instrument track, but then I can't feed audio into it. As I'm out of ideas as how to accomplish my goal I thought I'd ask here. I guess the million dollar question is: is it at all possible to have a soft synth get and audio and midi input? And in case the answer's yes, how? As a sidenote: a while ago I succeeded in creating a track with the icon shown below, but I can't for the life of me remember how I did it. Anybody a clue? Thnx heaps in advance for any assistance. Enjoy. P.S. In case it is not possible to route audio and midi to a softsynth I intend to make it a feature request. Anybody for?

Well, I'm afraid that's it then. Just had a reply from the developer that -in short- he doesn't know. He admits that he's just an amateur and refers me to the flowstone forum. Not sure if I can be bothered. I'll have to think about it. I also have my doubts if the cakewalk people will be willing to help, in the end it's only free plugins that -probably- few people use. Again I'll have to think about it. Anyway, thnx for your willingness to help out. Enjoy.

A little update. I tried the not working plugins inan evaluation version of reaper I still have installed. No problem. They seem to work fine. I am therefor inclined, with some reservation, to say that it's a cakewalk related issue. I still have no idea what to do about it though.

I understand completely. And I wouldn't bother if I didn't think it worth it. by the way, they're all easy to install: go to the site: https://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com At the top of the page you'll see a link where you can download all the plugins in zip packages. The site isn't all that reliable -I get 502 bad geateway messages- but a couple of retries should overcome that. I suggest you download either the 80-vox II (Yamaha CS 80 based) or the chorg Ps-20 (Korg MS20 based). (Neither of them work on my system and the 80-vox II has 32 and 64 bit versions. The Chorg is 32 bit only.) Click the relevant folder and then the download all button. Downloading is quite fast normally. Thnx for taking the time. I'm really curious as to your experience with these plugins.

Hi Scook. Thnx for taking the time to reply. Allas, none of your suggestions works. And I always run cakewalk as administrator. I had to change that setting for reasons I can't really remember. I tried changing the security settings, created a folder C:\VST, I also tried changing the security settings of the actual dll, all to no avail. I keep getting the same message. Frankly, it's flabbergasting. (And disappointing, the guys plugins are quite good.)

Hi All. I'm having a rather weird problem with several of the freeware k brown synth plugins. (Found at: https://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com) It's a very nice collection of soft synths, including among others, korg, moog, yamaha and buchla type synths. And they're all free. I've installed quite a few of them and most of them work fine, be it in a 32 or 64 bit version. However, some of them I can't get for the life of me to work. When I try inserting them into a project (empty or otherwise, via insert instrument track or replace synth (on an existing track)) I always get the same answer from cakewalk: "Failed to insert soft synth. The synth may not be properly installed." I tried redownloading them, reinstalling them, installing them in a different folder, but all to no avail. The strange thing is however that it is only the case with a number of soft synths from this developer. Some series (he has quite a lot of them) work flawlessly, others simply can't be gotten to work. There's the case of one soft synth where the actual synth doesn't work but the fx version does (as an audio effect). Regretfully I'm not enough of a programmer to figure out where the problem could be found. Hence this post and the possibility that there's someone here who knows more about this kind of thing. All the synths are provided as dll's. Anybody here care to figure this out? It think it is worth the time as these soft synths are remarkably good. I'm wonering if anyone else uses these plugins and what their experiences are. If you need more information, don't hesitate to ask. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm on Win 10 pro, laptop intel i7, latest version of cakewalk (bandlab version). Thnx in advance. Enjoy