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  1. I see, well when it comes to certain computer parts, nothing is crystal clear to me anyway. I do have a reliable computer tech who does my upgrades, so I trust him. There are two choices I'm looking at, and I'm wondering if there would really be much difference between these two processors. I'm just running Cakewalk, but I do use some CPU heavy plugins, and mostly audio tracks as opposed to MIDI tracks. Sometimes I use Sony Vegas to do some small video projects as well. 5600x... https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=asc_df_B08166SLDF/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475750632217&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18174886754171346090&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002211&hvtargid=pla-1038719530487&psc=1 5800x... https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815XFSGK/ref=pd_rhf_cr_s_pd_crcd_5?pd_rd_w=BkGaU&pf_rd_p=8019ba47-0a12-4976-b76b-5c932d60db6f&pf_rd_r=SSP9GZEH6HN6629QG198&pd_rd_r=4d79c963-35eb-4b1f-b459-4a770dcbfb13&pd_rd_wg=HHYQS&pd_rd_i=B0815XFSGK&psc=1 Ok, correct me if I'm wrong,..... so I'm guessing that pairing the less expensive 5600x 6core/12thread with 32GB RAM and a fast SSD drive would be sufficient for what I'm doing in CW? Or is it gonna be that much difference in performance/speed to go with the more expensive 5800x 8core/16thread? See, right now I have a 3core/6thread (which I originally thought was just a "6 core" (there's that terminology again!), and CWbB performance meter is showing 6 separate core measurements for it, so I assume the CWbB meter will show 12 for the 5600x and 16 for the 5800x. I could actually keep the processor I have but I'm upgrading everything else, so I may as well follow suit with the processor as well, rather than doing it separately later on. Any thoughts?
  2. I'm not big on computer terminology, but I've noticed that some people will call a 6 core - 12 thread processor just "12 core", and an 8 core - 16 thread processor just "16 core". Am I to assume that for example a 6 core - 12 thread is really a 12 core?
  3. Was just looking at the Ryzen 8 core/16 thread, up around $4-500, the 6 core/12 thread around $3-350. I'd like to go 8 if I can get it and still keep the total upgrade budget manageable .
  4. If I can manage it, I may end up upgrading my processor and motherboard along with the SSDs and RAM, otherwise I'll stick to just SSDs and RAM. My friend was recommending Ryzen AMD 5600X 8 core 16 thread processor. He said it's very fast and outperforms some of the Intel i series processors. I don't know much about the technical end but I know he is very good at what he does, he's been a business computer tech for years, so I trust his recommendations. The customer reviews on that processor are mostly very good from what I can see.
  5. This could work, I see what you mean. I noticed though that the outside main folder of a project and the cwp folder inside both share identical names. So both would need renaming, but if I rename it at the SaveAs point while in CWbB, then I think both get renamed automatically. Yes it's the way I've always done it, it's just that I had not created a system for backup files, I just had been dragging them to an external HDD in another folder like Cakewalk Projects, only it would be Cakewalk Projects Bkup, or something like that. I just ran into where I had daily revisions I wanted to backup as well, and I'd have to keep replacing the previously saved backup. I am looking to keep a few daily backups for awhile until I know I can get rid of some of them. So what scook and John said about adding dates to the backups to keep them in some organized way sounds like a good method. It may likely be even more secure than drag drop to the external, I've accidentally copied a project or two to the wrong folder, one took me awhile to find! lol Ok I see John, makes perfect sense. So you would always have at least one dated backup of any given project in the album folder. I'm glad there is a second option, this is good! I do like the "by project" setup a little more, it is more familiar to they way I set mine up now.
  6. Thanks scook, this is good stuff.....I like the idea for the "To External" folder, using Save As to directly save an "update of the day so to speak." I know I don't need to worry about the project name being the same if I'm saving the daily update to a different folder than the original's location. Looking ahead to when you would move them from the To External folder to the external HDD, how are multiple copies of that same project being named? If you try to save in the same folder you get prompted to overwrite existing, they can't share the same file name. So the first thought for me is I would need to add a revision date to the end of the file name while in the Save As dialog box, is that basically the method you use to avoid duplicating a file name? I'm looking at my project files in Windows Explorer, and all my CWbB projects are in the C:\Cakewalk Projects folder as usual. Each project has a main or outside folder, and inside that are the audio folder, and the .cwp file. When I move them to an external HDD for backup, I just move/copy that entire folder as one item. I would be interested in seeing a screenshot of what a typical heirarchy tree and folder names would look like for the multiple backups of the same project on the External HDD . Whoa you have a lot of music! So when you're saving projects to your Album backup you are likely dating the file name so as not to duplicate the name if there are a few other copies in that folder. This is all good, I appreciate the discussion. I am really trying to become more efficient with how I store backups, and want to just keep it simple at the same time. For my Mixes, I have always used a simple folder setup with subfolders separated by project name.
  7. Once saved, I do still drag project folders from one HDD to another for safe keeping. They are self contained with all audio inside too, so they should transfer just fine. I've never had an issue with moving them around, it's when I used the overwrite when saving from CW.
  8. I'm just trying to establish a backup system without things getting too confusing, especially if I'm going to keep any older versions of a song/project. As I mentioned above, at the end of my recording session, I just want to save the project as it currently stands because changes have been made, I just want to double backup in case the one in the Cakewalk Projects folder on my main HDD gets corrupted or something. What do you mean John by "container folder"? ....I assume you mean your CW Projects main folder?
  9. I see, interesting, all I want to do as I save any newly added tracks on a given day and make an extra backup of those changes somewhere else safe besides my main C drive, like an external HDD. Let me make sure I'm understanding this right......So hypothetically if your project name is "My Song", that means if you are using Save As option every time you save new changes as your project grows and new tracks are added, then you must be needing to name it a different name so as not to overwrite the one of the same name that you previously saved, so it would mean naming the current one "My Song 2" or something like that, correct? Then you delete the older one(s) as new revisions get saved, is that right? Ok, so that is why I was getting issues, I did stop using that method once I ran into an issue. It wasn't with every project, but it happened, so I stopped doing it that way.
  10. Did a "rename/save project" search and saw this thread. I have a simple question along similar lines........ I frequently double backup my projects I am currently working on to 2 external HDD. For the longest time I would just copy the project folder (with all its contents and audio) to the External HDD, and select the Windows "overwrite existing file?" option for the backup project folder of the same name on the External. Then I noticed I began getting some audio errors if I needed to reload the one off the external to my main PC drive. Hard to describe, but let's just say I believe that maybe some of the audio either got corrupted, or the old audio didn't all get deleted when I did the overwrite with the currently updated version. I thought maybe if I had Archived tracks in that project it would cause the issue, but not really sure. So when I want to back up now, I began to first delete the existing backup project folder on the external HDD, then just copy the currently updated one to the HDD, thus eliminating any overwrite issues. Aside from being a little risky deleting the older backup first, is this a good way to backup my project to a HDD? What method do you use? Thanks!
  11. Ok Will, thanks, I watched the video. Seems pretty simple to connect. I do have a couple of questions though.... I assume instead of using my Behringer mixer, I'll be using the audio outputs of my audio interface to send the record and playback signals to my studio monitors, and control playback volume with the A/I That being the case, when I get to a scenario where let's say I already have recorded a drum and a bass track in CWbB, now I want to play those tracks while I record a new keyboard synth track. Using the setup described in the video with my A/I connected to my mixer, will I be able to control the playback volume of the drum/bass playback separately from the volume of the new keyboard track that I am recording live? This is an issue that I have now with just using the Behringer alone because if I use the control room/headphone volume knob on the Behringer, both are sent to that knob, so it raises or lowers both my playback and record volumes simultaneously. So if I want the drums and bass to be quieter so I can hear the keyboard part I'm playing better, the only way to do it is to use my volume controls within CWbB. It's one of the things that prompted me to change and go with a USB mixer that has multi USB so I can send the playback tracks to any channel and therefore control the levels separately.
  12. Thanks for that link Will, interesting, ..gonna watch tonight. It never really occurred to me to connect the two.
  13. Too bad about the Audiobox latency, thanks for mentioning, I wasn't aware. I only used my Audiobox a few times on my laptop and it was just to connect a guitar for practice, latency seemed fine for that, but I never tried putting it to the test on a decent sized project in CW. I used to use an old Delta 66 by M-Audio, and it worked well for me at the time, but I've found M-Audio stuff to be kinda buggy in general sometimes. I'm gonna have to make a list of which Audio Interfaces play well with CW, and also list the prices. What are the Focusrite interfaces like, any good? I just watched another video on bit depth and the speaker mentioned they were decent for a budget interface. Not sure what you mean about only needing two tracks.....you mean only two instrument inputs/outputs? I use a mixer because if I want to have all my stuff connected and ready at any time, I need a minimum of 4 inputs for my stereo keyboards, 1 for my electric guitar, 1-2 for mics. That said however, I do usually only record one thing at a time since I do it all myself most times, so having something like an Audiobox would mean connecting whatever instrument I'm using to record and then disconnecting that to connect the next one. I kinda like having it all available at once in case I want to audition other parts. Ok, I just tried again and for some reason last time I selected 1202fx instead of 1204fx, my bad. I'm not sure if this is the one I need, or if I even need it, I'll have to check my driver version first. Driver update can be a pain for me, can't seem to ever just be a simple process. The Behringer downloads page re-routes me to this page.... https://www.asio4all.org/
  14. Thanks for the heads up John. I'll take that suggestion about an interface. I have a basic 2 channel Audiobox that I sometimes use with my laptop, but I'll look into a better one going forward. I use a mixer cuz I'm usually running two keyboards, each in stereo, a couple guitars and a mic, so I like the mixer and having all of it connected all the time, even if I'm not trying to get a signal to my DAW. Also, the MTK 12 can send multiple USB channels to multiple tracks in CW, so if I want to record an acoustic guitar track I can have three separate tracks recording simultaneously, one with a mic, one direct, and one room mic. I can't do that with the Behringer, it's only a two way street, one in and one out. I love Omnishpere! I used to have Atmosphere years ago, but it's gone now and I can't find my registration info, and to upgrade to Omnisphere without it is really pricey. I called them and they had no record of my registration, too many years have passed, so I'd have to purchase as a first time user, can't afford that right now. It's a great plugin, so is Bass Trilogy, but way overpriced imho. Yeah I think I will eventually have to go with an interface that will give me super low latency compared to using my USB mixer. The mixer will have to do until such time as I can afford another interface, but it's looking more like one of the best ways to beat it. I'm using 80-90% of my 8GB of RAM all the time, according to the performance meter in CW, and my HDD is over 65% full and the HD meter in CW is always lit up red even in very small projects while the audio engine is running. So there are definitely a few things that need addressing as far as upgrading. SSD and RAM for sure, no question.
  15. I hear that, and for awhile now as my plugin library has grown, I have been learning that even if I want to have all my plugins running for editing and stuff, sometimes I just have to work my project in pieces, as you have suggested. It kinda sucks sometimes, but I've found it doesn't hurt me to find ways to work more efficiently, given whatever PC limitations arise.
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