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There's also this guy here.

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

You have to have a job in order to be afraid of it being taken away.

This is the kind of 5D chess AI can't engage with, which is why we'll never lose our jobs.

And it also has wasted space occupied by that stupid TMT thing nobody uses.

4 hours ago, Grem said:

I went to Presonus S1 6 web page I got with a google search.

I clicked the "Buy" button and it brought me straight to the "Compare" page to help me decide which version I might need.

It wasn't buried or hid.

Now compare how complete the one on the page is versus the PDF you can only get by following some obscure link. And you don't get any access to that PDF if you want a more comprehensive comparison of features.

13 hours ago, abacab said:

That is incorrect. Cakewalk bought rgc:audio years ago and the former owner went to work for Cakewalk developing the Cakewalk line of software synths. If Cakewalk owned it then, BandLab owns it now.

Considering there are no signs of that software appearing any time soon, that's more than correct. It doesn't matter who owns what if the software is not available for purchase or use outside of people who already own it or acquire it using "illegal" (you can't lose profits from a software you don't sell licenses for) means.

On 4/16/2023 at 11:38 AM, User 905133 said:

While you might feel that they should also provide the older plug-ins for free ("not for a fee") for new Cakewalk by Bandlab users, that would be a very generous move for Bandlab presuming they have the legal rights to make those available. 

They most likely don't. z3t4 and other stuff was developed by rgc:audio. Although rgc has been proudly displaying that "Coming Soon" message on their website for several years now and nothing came yet. But you also have worse offenders, like TH3. Overloud stopped selling TH3 licenses long ago to focus on TH-U and...F-U to whoever wants the full version of TH3 cause you can't get it. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with the official licensed stuff that comes with the plugin because the free version bundled with CbB still have the official THD Univalve model in it and it's also present in TH-U...And the funny part is that THD has discontinued both amps TH3 and THU have.

Mine is also 389.35. The only plugin I have from them is UltraChannel. Maybe I should've kept my eyes focused when they had QuadraVox for free some years ago.

2 minutes ago, Milan said:

They do have it here: https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/uploads/bronto/files/presonus-so6-compare-versions_1_.pdf

This is what I'm talking about, but Steiberg doesn't hide theirs in a PDF file on an obscure CDN domain. They're right in their website as shown here:

https://www.steinberg.net/cubase/compare-editions/

And those are also the same for Wavelab, Dorico and other apps they have with multiple versions.

25 minutes ago, David Pollock said:

I have wondered about the GeForce Experience app and what it does for me. Are you saying I should just uninstall it since I don't use it for gaming?

 GeForce Experience is not necessary to use any nVidia card if you're not fiddling with the settings or using Shadowplay.

And...That menu seems to be tied to the "Category" and "Manufacturer" options rather than what it should be, which is tied to the current layout. I went to the "Manage by Category" layout, noticed VX-64 and PX-64 were disabled. Once I enabled them, now they show up in the layout I made. WTH.

First thing I would check is your nVidia apps. They love to process stuff in the background without your consent. I have a nVidia card I only use for CUDA stuff and I only install the drivers. I don't need things like GeForce Experience or Shadowplay. That's what the primary AMD card is for.

1 hour ago, JnTuneTech said:

This is another "so many ways - personal preferences... " type of thing.   -I happen to have been frustrated recently when adding new plugins too, so I changed the view option.  -Where is says "Plug-in Layouts >" in the screen shot - I pop that out and choose "Sort by Type". Then, next time I use that menu - below the recent used list it shows the groups first - VST3, VST2, DirectX - and then manufacturer names, and then the plugin(s) names for each.  -Anyway, for me, then I usually see all (non-hidden) installed plugins that way, or if not, try toggling/refreshing that view setting preference...

But that's just one way. You can also create plugin layout(s), but I found I had to update those a lot. -Maybe it was just me though!

The issue at hand has nothing to do with me wanting to add new plugins. What I want to do is create specific layouts where only a subset of plugins are shown for several reasons. In the screenshot, I made a layout which is only consisted of stock CbB plugins rather than all 200+ plugins I have installed. The right click menu is not something I have control over and in theory should correctly list whatever plugins are available in the current layout, which is not the case.

2 hours ago, tulamide said:

I wonder, where all this fear of another plugin format comes from? It's not as if it would hurt you in any way. It's just a plugin format.

Despite what it may look like by looking around, a good portion of people that work in the audio industry are not technical people. They just want something that works and is stable. You might still find people running old pre-HD version of Pro Tools on ancient PCs and Macs because it works for them and they don't feel the need to change to new and shiny hardware and software. CLAP at the moment promises a lot, but it doesn't promise backwards compatibility and that will turn most heads away from it.

2 hours ago, tulamide said:

And about the effort needed: Reaper needed a few weeks to implement CLAP support

REAPER is developed by two people which do essentially updates when they feel like it and when they deem necessary, as opposed to a team of people with several hundreds of people that came from older versions of the software breathing down their necks when new features are implemented whilst old bugs still exist.

2 hours ago, tulamide said:

Fact is, that Steinberg currently dictates, what a plugin can or cannot do.

Apple also dictates what AU plugins and cannot do and I'm yet to see people complaining about it. Same goes for ProTools and AAX.

2 hours ago, tulamide said:

CLAP and LV2, for example, have the same basic concept. Allowing a modular approach to extend capabilities with extensions. No DAW is required to support any of those. It's a bonus, not a necessity.

I would be very careful when citing Linux plugin formats as examples. The Linux version of REAPER doesn't support LADSPA, DSSI or LV2 along with Tracktion Waveform and there's a very good reason for that. Linux people love the reinvent the square wheel. Many of those plugin formats don't play well with each other and can cause instability. Then you'll also run at people constantly nagging for their favorite plugin to be made in another format because of some arbitrary reason, which is why the few companies which make plugins for Linux (like u-he) only offer VST3 and nothing else.

3 hours ago, tulamide said:

But by being afraid of a format, that developers of instuments and effects designed to specifically allow more functionality, less CPU usage and a leaner programming, you actually prohibit those who want to give you these better products.

Those are promises that, in the modern world of software development, are usually lies. If you consider that one of the bullet points for CLAP is supporting modern hardware, there's no guarantee you'll get the same backwards compatibility other formats have. Remember that audio people prefer stability over new features and the whole programming mindset of solving performance problems by upgrading your hardware is not a thing.

3 hours ago, tulamide said:

the whole U-He package and dozens of smaller developers already offer really good plugins in CLAP format and some even CLAP only.

If by dozens you mean five, than yes.

Despite the whole pessimism this reply might display, more plugin formats would help in a sense, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for any of the companies u-he said are looking into CLAP. That's probably a PR reaction and I don't see how a company like Avid would change to an open plugin format after spending who knows how much money creating AAX, for example.

7 minutes ago, jesse g said:

Does anyone know how long this upgrade offer will last?  I think I will just upgrade to Artist 6.1 from my Artist 1.   I love Cakewalk, however, it's time to learn something new.  When I purchased Presonus Studio One  Artist 1,  eleven years ago  that was my intention.   However,  my HD creashed and I just put the HD away will all of the software on it still in place and I never looked back.   Now,  it's time to learn something new and become somewhat proficient in using it because it looks as if Studio One will be around for quite a longe time.

Are you talking about the sale or just the regular upgrade? If the latter, you have two options: you can either upgrade to Artist 6 or to Professional 6 from whichever version you have. (I have Artist 2 which I got when they released it and had it for 20 bucks as a NAMM sale.)

8 hours ago, azslow3 said:

Also ProTools is an "industry standard".  Why you try to use something else, like Cakewalk?

Because it requires iLok to be used and the whole workflow made to be used with external gear and tape machines don't work well with my fully in the box setup. Plus the way they handle audio drivers and the documentation is crap.

EDIT - Although....I am tempted after looking at what Intro has added.  More plugins like the Lite version of Eleven and their Sansamp PSA-1 emulation. Sure, you lost UVI Falcon (which came with First), but still. And you can run your own AAX plugins as well.

Depending on how much all these add-ons combined cost, you're better off buying an interface which comes with an Artist license. I can't say for sure because the store from MyPresonus doesn't allow you to change the region and only displays prices in my currency and the website has decided it wants to not respond to any clicking I do unless I open crap in new tabs. Granted, that leads to the shop anyways and it automatically changes to my currency....

Although it's a bit hard to determine because, unlike Steinberg, they don't offer you a detailed comparison table which lists everything that's included in either version.

47 minutes ago, Jean said:

However, the SSL X-EQ-2 plugin, I just had to abandon, because I couldn’t find a way to disable Open GL (I’m assuming that the plugin does use Open GL – but it is an assumption)

The SSL plugins probably use a 3D rendered interface, just like the IK stuff.

3 hours ago, JnTuneTech said:

undo could be keeping the VST3 running in the background, - just a thought.

It's cheaper processing wise to just reload the plugin rather than keep it in some sort of cache. What is kept is probably the plugin state, as it happens when you save track presets.

It's not a CS80.

1 hour ago, Bapu said:

Watch Warren Huart (Produce Like a Pro), he's almost exclusively Waves in ProTools. He's a fan of Massenburg EQ.

The one plugin he constantly uses is Abbey Road Chambers.

The saddest one of those is Andrew Scheps. He doesn't even use his own plugin afaik. The only places where he does so is when he has to talk about it or teach something about it.

There's only one issue with Offline Help that I can see. If you already have it installed and remove CbB, you have to reinstall it again, otherwise you won't have access to it despite the installer claiming you already have it installed.

The sad part is that some of those "special" plugins were not developed by Cakewalk, so whether or not they can put it on CbB is up to whoever owns it. rgc audio has been "coming soon" for at least two centuries and nothing so any hopes of a Z3T4 return are uncertain. Overloud is on the greed train IMO as you can't even buy a TH3 license anymore, yet they won't provide a full version of TH3 for CbB. And so on.

It's also important to note that it took ages for people to standardize on VST3 and that's just a version increase of an industry standard! The same went for ProTools and its RTAS/TDM to AAX.

On 3/25/2023 at 5:03 PM, Variorum said:

Don't mean to sound snooty, but I wish developers would take the time to write plug-ins in the native language of DAWs (C/C++) rather than taking the easy way and coding in C# and hoping everything bridges correctly...

Then you'd have plugins which leak memory instead of just crashing...But they'd call it a feature!

On 4/8/2023 at 2:16 PM, Andy Nazzal said:

Hello,

After 6 years of recording with Sonar Professional, I recently purchased Cubase with the intention of transferring many song files over to mix/master on Cubase. Lousy timing- yesterday my Sonar declared it is now in DEMO mode (cannot save, export, etc.) Unfortunately, the username/password for Sonar was lost in a robbery so I cannot unlock it from Demo mode.

Any help on this is extremely appreciated!

Andy

Cakewalk by Bandlab is equivalent to SONAR Platinum in terms of license, so you can simply open your SONAR Professional projects in there without any issues. Even the plugins will work.