Tom Frazee

I've been using Sonar since it was first made by Cakewalk. Both in studio and live shows. One of the features that is unique to Sonar is the Play Set option. for live, it allows me to set up a set list for a show. It can automatically go from one song to the next, choose to delay any amount of seconds or wait for a key press. It's great. In a song file, my audio for a song is typically 8-16 audio tracks, a couple of MIDI tracks for keyboard program changes and lighting cues and a simple video track for teleprompter. This file is usually a very lite video mp4 with just lyrics and cues and the file is around 3-4 meg. If I play back the file by itself, the video to audio sync is perfect. If the song is in a Play Set, the audio to video sync gets way off...usually the video is 2-3 seconds behind the audio. It seems like playing back in a Play Set can corrupt a file at times. Looping is definatly NOT an option. Notes: I'm running a Lenovo Laptop with Win 10, 4 Core 1.8Ghz, 1T SSD, 16G Ram, GPU is in the CPU (not a discreate video card) but it's a Intel UHD Graphics 620 I've got the file preference set to only allow 1 project open at a time None of my projects run any virtual instruments. Just multitrack wav files, MIDI program commands and the one video teleprompter track. Each project is around 200-300 meg Has there been any R&D in regards to the Play Set function? It's what makes Sonar a go to live playback application that gives flexibility during a show. Very important. I look forward to any feedback and I can zip up a few projects along with a demo Play Set for any Bandlab / Cakewalk developer wanting to troubleshoot. Thanks, Tom Frazee / Admagination Creative Services for broadcasting and live show production

NP. As you, we've been involved in MIDI since 1984, first with the Commodore then hardware (Yamaha QX-1) then all the variances of PC based sequencing. Bought Logic 5 then a month later Apple bought them so I was hung out to dry. Played in a show band with Tom White who has been at the forefront of MIDI and is still the ED of the association. Anyways, hope you're not getting hit too hard with Covid in Canada. We're just outside of Boston. Tom

So far I've found the issue in Play and Kontakt 5. Pretty much limited to VST's that load sounds using a dedicated "player" interface. If a person is having the note truncating issue when freezing a track, look for an option in the player for streaming from disk or RAM. GM VST's generally are not using massive samples so I haven't yet run into this problem with CW TTS, Garritan or Aria. But I guess because Mr Vere has indicated I'm not an "OP" I'll just stay out of it. I thought that's what forums were all about

It has nothing to do with Sonar or Win OS. It's settings that many VST instruments have for resource hogging samples. If you read the original post by David, you will see he was asking a question about note truncating when freezing a VST plug in. Nobody was getting it right. I had the same problem using both Win 7 and 10 as well as Cakewalk Sonar and Bandlab Sonar and got my answer a few months ago from East West support. Come to find out it's common with several 3rd party VST providers. BTW, it must still be "broken" because his post was from this past Friday. Sorry, just trying to help

I'll load up a test project and see if Kontakt Player has the same setting and post what I find

First, I am still using Sonar Platinum, the last version prior to BandLab. I have the Bandlab version on my laptop for my mobile and remote programing. On our main studio computer, I'm still running Win 7 Pro 64 and I'm a believer in if it works don't fix it, and I built this computer and it works crazy good. Dual Xeon 8 core, 32 gig Ram, GeForce vid card, liquid cooled. Chips are clocked over 4Ghtz...blah, blah. My initial issue with notes cutting off after freeze was in Play, which is all my East West Composer Cloud libraries player. Any sound I'd load and have sustaining notes long than a second would truncate after freezing. The setting was having to do with whether sounds were streaming from disk or from RAM. If from disk (default setting) notes would truncate when I'd freeze. If you untick that option (which means you're selecting the sounds to stream from RAM), it works fine. Here is where the setting are in Play. Most more advanced VST instruments, especially ones that have their own "multi channel player" have this setting somewhere.

Nope. Not there. Grrrrr, I'm pissed at myself for misplacing this option. Still looking. It's in Project Setting somewhere I think and it was global for the project but not for Sonar overall or it would not be cutting off a current project. Pretty sure a support for Sonar at Bandlab answered it for me.

BTW. It's not Fast Bounce or buffers or anything like that...I'm looking

Dang. It's not a problem with anything. It's a one click setting somewhere (unfortunately I haven't done it in a while so I'm trying to remember) that changes the way the data is handled during freezing. I'll see if I find it and re-post. It was so simple...but some times it's the simple stuff that eludes us HA