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Posts posted by synkrotron

  1. Hi @Larry Jones,

    Good to see you here :)

    I agree, Bandlab are not duty bound to provide any assurances but I am sure they will do their best to keep the Cakewalk machine running. Otherwise they wouldn't have stepped into the breech.


    12 hours ago, Larry Jones said:

    PS: Andy, you and I commented on each others music in the old Songs forum. Your stuff is foreign to an old rocker like me, but now that I've read all this from you I am going back and listening again. Diggin' it.

    Haha! Yes, indeed we did, and I miss that place. Once I stopped using SONAR I strongly believed that I should no longer post my creations in there. I suppose I could have carried on being active in the Songs forum but I guess the incentive was lost once I no longer posted my own stuff there.

    You listened again! Oh my goodness :o ;)

    I know it's not the easiest stuff to listen to if you're not into that stuff. My missus hates it and wants me to play Led Zepp stuff, which ain't gonna happen due to a distinct skills gap haha!

    cheers, and thanks for chipping in here :)


  2. Hi @Noel Borthwick,

    Thank you for your input here, as a member of staff, I really appreciate it :)

    As for making music... Struggling there really as I am still trying to make my mind up on which DAW to use, hence my recent activities here.

    I would love to jump right back into Cakewalk as, even after over a year away, I still feel comfortable with it. My "reticence" at the moment is perceived CPU loading. I also need to integrate some of my old hardware back into the mix, having been ITB VST for nearly ten years now. That is taking longer than I thought, mainly due to distractions with respect to CPU loading. But I think I may have put that to bed now and I just need to focus on that hardware.

    cheers, and thanks again,

    andy :)

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  3. Thanks for chipping in here, @Noel Borthwick :)

    I've just checked my configuration, which would have been copied over from SONAR Platinum, which I never uninstalled.

    It is set to 2, which I think was as a result of discussions about core balance on the old forums.

    I'm going to carry out a few more tests on Cakewalk and reproduce the same test project on REAPER and Studio One, just because I own both of those.

    My guess is that I am not going to find the "perfect" solution here. REAPER may be perceived as being kinder to CPU, but I am having issues with MIDI timing. Not sure what Studio One brings to the party, but I did like it when I was only doing VST stuff, but there is no Event List so in the end I won't be using this DAW for MIDI stuff.


    Anyway, back to the grind :D


  4. Hi @Starship Krupa :)

    Thanks for taking the time to write that post... Excellent reading, and no sarcasm intended here, I truly did enjoy the read.

    I can now see that we are at different ends of the spectrum, in a way, in that I am a user and you are a provider. Or where... And of course, you are also a user too, so you see things from both sides of the fence.

    A little bit about me, then, as a user, and my jaundiced perspective as a "User."

    I've been into computers since around 1982 (guessing) and I was 22 (I'm a 1960's kid). The Commodore 64 was my entry point. I had a passing interest in writing "Basic" programs, just for laughs. I wasn't very good. Best thing I wrote was a program that allowed you to work out flange thickness for vessels using formula within a particular British Standard. It was a little bit more than simply putting the formula into the Basic code in that you dabbled with the number of bolts, bolt size and a few other factors and it would spew out a flange thickness. Where I was working at the time I used the output from that program to literally "paste" into a larger vessel design document, so I guessed I though, "result!"

    So, yeah, I was/am a mechanical designer by trade. Eventually we ditched the "drawing board" and went into the world of CAD. The software which seemed to dominate in both my geographic area and discipline was, and still is AutoCAD, by Autodesk.

    It is a great piece of software, even back then. Intuitive and simple to use, and lots of third party documentation around helping the users to pick it up. That really helped with the popularity of the software as the user base, compared to other software was getting bigger every year.

    We slagged it off, of course. We're users, and we "all know how it should be done."

    And then came the updates... Which, in my early days (I stepped in at V11) were quite infrequent and we were on V11 for a couple of years. Then, as the years went by, that changed and each year Autodesk would announce a new release for that year. And then they dropped the V11, V12, V13 version numbering and it became AutoCAD 2000, and so on. Now you can now longer buy and own the software and you have to rent it, and if you stop paying, the software no longer functions.

    I used to be dead against the "subscription model," and still am for some things, but I realise and understand that, in the software industry in particular, creating something as a "one off" piece of software just doesn't work.

    Simply put, it's not like "real world" stuff, stuff you can touch and feel. Stuff that breaks and needs replacing, like a cup that you drop on the floor, or a car that eventually stops working because it has rusted/worn away. And then there's the "latest colour scheme" thing, that makes people want to get rid of last years stuff and replace it with something new.

    I think that for most of us, if a piece of software does what we need it to, at a particular point in its life cycle then why upgrade/replace? And that doesn't help the software developers because eventually all the people in the world that want that tool now have it. So, yes, they have to sometimes have to add great new capabilities that convince us to want to upgrade.

    I think I am a very bad customer when it comes to software. I do spend, probably too much, on new toys but for my DAW I tend to stick with what I have got. When the "lifetime" deal came out for SONAR, it was perfect for me... I knew I would never spend another penny on my DAW, for as long as SONAR was a thing. I was only interested in "core updates" and I never needed any of the new "bells and whistles." So, yeah, for Gibson/Cakewalk/SONAR I was a bad customer...

    Anyway, Erik, you have already said that in your post above, and I'm just waffling haha! 


    Got to go! Got non-musical chores to get done before I get back to studio stuff :)


    cheers, and thanks,


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  5. Thanks @John and @abacab :)

    Just powered windows and let it settle down.

    I brought up both Task Manager then disabled any unwanted processes, even if they were showing as "suspended." Like Skype, for instance...

    I switched to the performance window in Task Manager. Network was stressed but it didn't seem to affect CPU usage. But I unplugged the network cable anyway, which disabled the network adaptor.

    I then opened Resource Monitor and selected CPU view so that I could see all eight cores.

    Opened Cakewalk and my little test project.

    Everything seems a bit better this morning for some reason. Perhaps Defender was doing a background check last night and I didn't spot it.

    Currently, Task Manager is reporting that Cakewalk is using around 10% CPU and overall the CPU is at around 12% usage. The Performance monitor in Cakewalk has been averaging well across all eight cores, although at the moment, while typing this with the project still playing, I am getting some clicks.


    I'll just have to keep my eye on this over the coming days/weeks as I develop this test project into something of what I would consider "normal size."

    I've not bothered disabling any effects at the moment as, like I said, activity across the cores appears to be okay. As I add more and more VST and VSTi I may have to look into that.


    And, of course, my laptop is over five years old now and it was a great spec when I bought it, within quite a high budget. Can't quite afford to upgrade just yet as I am currently "retired," with no money coming in at all.


    andy :)

  6. I'm packing in for the night now.

    Been having fun in CbB... Quite impressed how it was able to rip all the old instrument definition files that I create nearly twenty years ago now.

    One thing is worrying me a bit, though, seeing as my current little test project only has a couple of VST instances.

    Core 0 is spiking quite a bit compared to cores 1 to 7. Every now and then I get the odd crackle.

    That was a bit of an issue with SONAR and I'm not sure if it was ever addressed properly. I mean, there was a fix or two but I can't remember the outcome.

    I've been running with my WiFi and wired internet connection off.

    I have been through tasks in Task Manager, turning off processes that I knew for sure were not required.

    One of the VST effects I am using is Adaptiverb, which is a know CPU hog, but it has switches to minimise that.

    Any thoughts?

    I have updated my signature with my setup. Well, I've not added a couple of items, but the PC/laptop spec is there.

    See you in the morning...


    andy :)


  7. Oh yes... What a great resource @abacab 😀

    I still have to use SYSEX and is another reason for (possibly) returning to SONAR/CbB (although, in fairness I should point out that other DAW also send or record SYSEX). 

    I have an Oberheim OB-12 which, for some unknown reason, no longer recognises bank changes, so I have to "operate" the front panel of the synth via SYSEX in order to switch to bank B. A PITA but it works...

    And back when all I used was MIDI hardware I started the project proper a bar in, and the first bar was for getting all the MIDI messages out before hand. Blimey, those were the days. And now that I'm back using some of my hardware synths I'm doing the same again.

  8. 14 minutes ago, dotonemanband said:

    Snykrotron.  I followed your steps regarding the event list and was able to change the patch. There was also an option to change the volume overall.  Thank you for solving this problem and to the others for their help as well.  Much appreciated. 

    As I am sure others would agree, it is what we are here for :)

    Glad to hear that you are all sorted now, and a bit wiser with regards to Event List view.




  9. 3 minutes ago, scook said:

    I believe GeneralMidiSMFs setting in TTSSEQ.ini determines whether or not initial program change data is displayed in the event list. By default, this value is set to 1 causing the DAW to create a GM setup measure which is not displayed in the event list. Instead, the data is displayed in the track controls. From https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=MIDI_Files.6.html


    Thanks, scook.

    I'll be honest... Not been there for quite some time... Like many, I got SONAR running how I want some time ago so one tends to forget the finer points.



  10. 3 minutes ago, Cactus Music said:

    Yes,, but in my experience they ( PG)  often do not show on the event list,,,

    Okay, John, I understand that.

    I must admit though that I have never come across a situation whereby things, for some reason, do not appear in the event list. But then again, even though I can also go back many years, using MIDI on the Amiga, I have rarely ever used third party MIDI files. If ever, in fact. So I am by no means saying that what you are saying is incorrect or not possible.

    And I agree that PRV is more intuitive.

    Perhaps I should not have advised the original poster to use Event List View. Main reason for doing so, in my defence, is that it usually pulls up all events, some of which are not visible in the PRV.



    andy :)


  11. 1 minute ago, abacab said:

    Meng has already stated that Cakewalk will always be free. So there should be no fear that he will suddenly hike the price for us.

    Without wishing to upset anyone here, I was more concerned about continuing quality of the software.

    So far, I am happy to see that everything is as I left SONAR "back then." Still early days though.

    I know that peeps are saying that perhaps we should keep our hand in with more than one DAW, but I have always hated that. More down to me and the "old dog, new tricks" thing. As I enter my dotage I am finding it increasingly difficult to learn new stuff.

    Studio One has let me down with regards to poor GUI support on high resolution monitors and also with the fact that, now that I am heading back into hardware territory I really do need an event list.

    And REAPER is proving to be rather poor at getting my setup in sync. Or it could just be me not knowing how to set it up properly.


    And so, here I am, re-learning SONAR/CbB again...



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  12. 5 minutes ago, scook said:

    The forum automatically resizes uploaded images. Using an external link preserves original image size. There is a 50MB quota for uploads. To manage images, click on the user menu in the upper right of this page and select "My Attachments."


    Excellent, scook, thanks :)


  13. Okay, in the studio now...

    I had to find a suitable MIDI file, one which I downloaded off the interwebs and that has a patch change.

    I dragged the MIDI file into an existing project.

    I then selected the track which was created, in this case, Track 6.

    I brought up the Event List by right clicking on the MIDI clip and selected View > Event List.

    Or, while the track is selected you can select the Event List by going to the Views menu at the top of the main window.

    Here is that Event List view:-


    I have highlighted the "Patch" change with the red arrow, but in the Event List view a Patch change event is a yellowy orange colour.

    Under the heading "Kind" it is called "Patch,"

    All the other events on this track are "Note."

    What you can do at this point is either edit the patch in the Event List by double clicking on it and changing it in the dialogue box that pops up, or you could simply delete the event by selecting it and hitting the delete button, and this will allow you to set the patch change within the VST or, if you wish, change the patch in the track properties.

    In the case of using VST instruments I prefer to leave the patch selection in the track properties blank and selecting the desired patch within the VST.

    If you are doing lots of MIDI stuff then it is well worth getting into the habit of using the Event List, sometimes just to see what is in there, but also to edit stuff a bit quicker/easier.


    I hope that helps.


    andy :)



    PS, I have no idea why I have two images in this post. I originally inserted the image from my hard disk but it was too small so I uploaded it to my FTP site so that I could link it full size. But now I don't seem to be able to delete the smaller image...

    MIDI with Patch Selection.jpg

  14. 25 minutes ago, dotonemanband said:

    thanks synkrotron … thanks for the suggestion about the event list … I'm just not sure what to be looking for.  As I look at the event list I see info regarding the track, such as trk, channel, kind, patch … but how to I change to another sound? 


    Hi :)

    I am not at my PC at the moment so if no one else has shown you what to look for by the time I make it into my studio I will do what I can to help.




  15. 22 minutes ago, Cactus Music said:

    No- PG changes do not always show in the event list.

    Did you not look at my screen shot? It shows the 2 places you can make the changes on any midi track. 

    If you set these to NONE then you can use the GUI settings.

    But, if there ARE program changes within the imported MIDI file it overrides any program selection made as part of the track properties.

  16. 8 minutes ago, dotonemanband said:

     This is a quote from the tutorial …. "The TTS-1 GUI has a lot of things you can adjust. But if the midi file has CC or system exclusive info it will override any changes you make. You would need to edit this in the EVENT LIST or PVR"  …. This  is what I think is what I need to adjust but not sure how to go about it in the PVR.  I have opened the Piano Roll View but still uncertain about what to do in order to change the patch.  Simply, I want to change the sound from acoustic bass to fingered bass in the midi channel but it keeps defaulting back to the original acoustic bass setting.  

    This is exactly what I was referring to in my post above.

    Event list is what you need to use...


  17. I use LUFS now and rarely do I need to worry much about peak levels. All my releases in the last twelve months or so don't go over -1.0 dB

    Then again, I only release on streaming services. Haven't burned an audio CD for over fifteen years... So perhaps my input here is irrelevant.

  18. I used to love Breverb. Upgraded to the full version shortly after SONAR introduced it as an effect.

    But then FabFilter released Pro-R and that is all I use now.

    Software wise anyway. I also have a couple of outboard effects that I use from time to time...

  19. I jumped ship, (which surprised me, being a Twelve Tone Systems fan boy for many years) to Studio One. Then when I bought a laptop with a hi res monitor, and Studio One couldn't handle that I jumped to REAPER, which I had purchased a license for about four or five years ago.

    But I am having trouble with sync'ing my hardware and software now and so am on the move again.

    Hence my visits to this forum...

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