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I can't believe I haven't ever seen an interview with him. 

Still requires a special pickup, but appears to track well and built "Ford tough" for live performance.  Sounds engine is ZenCore, with natural and synthetic sounds.  MIDI In/Out/USB.  4 parts and 1 Rhythm part.  Each part can receive on a separate MIDI channel and has its own effects.  Part editing is limited.  Not sure about polyphony.

On 7/17/2023 at 4:03 PM, bats brew said:

wow!

never knew he played with trower...even if it was just for some gigs...

he was the bass player for sly after larry graham left (loved graham, but loved all that music at that time period from sly)

 

 Allen joined Robin Trower's hard blues-rock band, where he played on two albums, 1977's In City Dreams and 1978's Caravan to Midnight.

 

 

all these years a trower fan, but didn't know this,

thanks for the headsup!!

 

Funny, Bill Lordan also played with Sly and the Family Stone.

2 hours ago, Bapu said:

BRB, ordering more popcorn....

So, do you have a subscription for your popcorn and does it scale properly?

1 hour ago, aidan o driscoll said:

"Next is a completely new DAW designed from the ground up by us over the last five years. It was developed to be cross platform and works equally well on Mac and PC with full AU and VST support.

The focus so far has been on creation centric features as opposed to the more production centric features that Sonar has.
For example, it has very intuitive lyrics entry and song arrangements, a built in sampler and pad controller which is quite powerful, allowing you to set up sampler or instrument pads. 

While Next might look visually similar to the online web based BandLab Studio that's only because we followed branding guidelines. It has full integration with the BandLab ecosystem with integrated browsing of BandLab loops as well as upload and download to the BandLab library. The product itself is quite deep and includes many of the bells and whistles Cakewalk users have come to expect, like multiprocessor support, background plugin scanning and flexible routing. Routing is very simplified and elegant in Next and can all be done via track folders (unlike Sonar). There are many more exciting features coming in future roadmaps. I'm sure in the upcoming weeks Jesse will post more information about Next.

In the interim, interested users are welcome to request beta access if you want hands-on experience with the application."

This is interesting - might Cakewalk Sonar will be a place holder DAW, until Next gets more "production centric" features?  Or will there be a Next Music Creator and a Next Producer?  (sorry, for just adding to speculation city...  )

9 hours ago, limpet said:

I started a few years ago with Reaper, used it for a while, felt a bit guilty and decided to buy the personal use license which I think was about £40 at the time. Unfortunately I couldn`t really get to grips with it so I went looking for something a little simpler to use and came across Mixcraft. This was easier to use, and so more enjoyable and I paid about £70 for it. Every couple of years it was revamped into a new release which existing customers could get, if they so desired, at around a 50% discount, so all good there.

Unfortunately, Mixcraft started to get a bit crashy and I very nearly lost a lot of projects so I had a look around and came across Cakewalk. I tried it out and I have to admit when I opened it up it was pretty intimidating, but after a few hours playing with it, it was humming along nicely and I have used it ever since with no issues. Got to love that pro channel.

Obviously this free to use situation was too good to be true and could never realistically last, so this news is not unexpected.

The only question to be answered really is about the pricing.

For me, not a heavy user, if it`s a case of a one off payment in the region of £80 to £100 with new versions every couple of years at a 40 % discount to existing users, then I could go for that. If on the other hand we`re talking more like £200 or God forbid a subscription then that would be too rich for me and I would be compelled to give Reaper another try, or see if Mixcraft has become more stable, which would be no real hardship as I have already paid once so it wouldn`t  be to expensive to re-visit and upgrade a bit.

Time will tell of course, but I will keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.

 

You may or may not know - Mixcraft 10 has been released.

3 hours ago, Keni said:

I wish as I too bought it, but don't hold your breath. That was a product from a different company and has already long passed.

But they might offer "upgrade/crossgrade" prices for those of us who own Sonar? One can dream, yes?

 

It shouldn't be a dream.  I crossgraded to Mixcraft, Studio One and Cubase - all with my Sonar X3 proof of purchase.  I would EXPECT at least that.

Sonar Classic will be the flagship and New Sonar will be the version "for the rest of us".

I could see New Sonar being targeted at the educational market.  Who knows, it could end up being a cross-platform take on GarageBand.

There will be one more update to CbB and people can continue to use it as long as they want.  It just won't be supported forever.

What would be considered a fair price for the new Cakewalk Sonar?  $49?  $99?  Who knows what instruments / content will be added?

Cakewalk Next will be interesting to watch.  It would to differentiate itself from the crowd.  The world doesn't need another new conventional DAW. 

4 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said:

 

Apple are holding the Smart Instrument MIDI hostage in the Apple ecosystem.  I suppose I could use StudioOne / Melodyne to generate MIDI from audio stems.

I've got Cubasis 3 on my Android phone, but it would be a heck of a lot easier to use on an iPad.  With the release of Logic iPad, maybe it will light a fire under Steinberg to get more resources to enhance Cubasis.

I was watching some demos of Logic Pro iPad, and though it has tons of features, it lacks the cohesiveness, simplicity and charm of GarageBand.  For being a free app, GB is quite amazing for sketching out ideas. 

Learn to play keyboards

A four bar loop is not a song

Don't start a composition with a beat or bass line

Don't produce while you're trying to write a song

Master the things you own

Compose with the instrument you know the best

Compose with an instrument you aren't good at

Start with an outline for a song

I look at this as a paid subscription for a GarageBand on steroids.  Besides the people who are balking at the subscription, there are also those who use Logic Pro on the Mac who are wringing their hands over the interoperability between the iOS version and Mac.  What was their problem when there was only GarageBand on iOS?  Half (maybe more) are using Windows or nothing as their primary computer.  Just take Logic on iOS for what it is.  I'm excited too - what better place to create music than on a couch, with headphones.  You can be with your family and they don't know you are composing a tune ?

My main problem with GarageBand on iOS is that your Smart Instrument and regular MIDI are held captive in the Apple ecosystem - Boo!!!  Why shouldn't you be able to export that to a non-Apple DAW?

Also re: the minimum hardware requirements - I thought it was any iPad with an A12 Bionic chip and greater:  "Logic Pro will run on any iPad with at least an A12 Bionic chip, including the 8th-generation iPad, the 3rd-generation iPad Air, the 5th-generation iPad mini, and newer models. Final Cut Pro is more demanding and requires an iPad Pro or Air with an M1 or M2—presumably, it's the small amount of RAM included with older iPads that keeps them from running software that much slower Macs have managed to run for years."

Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad as $50-per-year subscriptions | Ars Technica

1 hour ago, paulo said:

Zey vill eat ze bugs and be heppy.

Oont u vill like it

This was fun.  Can you believe, after 50-60 years, and we're still doing minute, archeological, examinationams of their recordings?

The challenge for moving to any new DAW is getting used to the new workflow, menus, keyboard shortcuts, etc.  The best way to go about it is to totally immerse yourself into the new DAW and use only it for about 3 weeks.  S1 has some killer features, but job one is getting the feel of it.  Definitely check out the videos.

On 3/16/2023 at 9:10 AM, Brian Walton said:

Hopefully not considering I'm convinced less than 20% of the user base would ever touch it (even if it was implemented well).  The fact of the mater is the average musician these days - especially guitarists where Cakewalk has long been a target audience - have no use for staff notation editing.  And I think even 20% would be far fetched personally.

As much as I feel for those that do want this as a core copentency in the program.  Cakwalk would be far better served to focus on things that any musicaion can benefit from.  We look at Chord/phrase/melody tools like Scaler and this is something that beginners can use all the way up to more advanced users thanks to advanced chord substituation concepts and composition tools.   Tools like this can help a beginner to even get started and it would be nice to have this type of functionality built into the DAW itself instead of a plugin.  

Not sure if the next update will be a biggie or not, but realistically as long as they continue to keep it free and funtional - this is already a mature platform to work on.  

The only real way Cakewalk could implement true score editing is if they bought an existing package like Presonus did with Notion - starting from scratch would require dedicated staff ?.  For MIDI editing in notation, things could be a lot worse than Staff View.

Regarding a chord track, I've come to the conclusion thatthe addition of scale capabilities are necessary to properly handle melodies and bass parts.

Hmm...  There must be a new flagship workstation in the offing. 

I am a huge fan of chord tracks in DAWs, however, I realized that scales are just as important as chords, if not more.  I your example, if a melodic phrase were snapped to a chord(s) the, the only notes allowed in the melody would be just those in the chord spelling.  IMO, Cubase has implemented this the most successfully.  You have the option to snap to chords, scales or a combination of the two.

Just now, ralfrobert said:

Just installed V9 just to take a look after two years. I have to say as I am spoiled by using Studio One, it doesn't impress me any more. However, I am very interested in V10, too. 

I'm still getting up to speed with Studio One which is quite impressive.  The big draw for me are its composition tools, like chord track and harmonic editing.  It's a little busy for my needs, but with some time,  it'll be good.

I'm interested to see how they're going to differentiate themselves from all the free / low priced alternatives out there.

Mixcraft 10 has entered private beta testing.

On 12/21/2022 at 6:41 AM, telecode 101 said:

I still think when she left Rufus she went downhill. Her solo records never really did reach the same level of groove with session musicians. 

Our band learned this, but they had problems counting it out, because the bass is on the off-beats.  ?

I find Joe Pesci amusing.

Maybe OT, but to you S1 users, do you primarily hang out on the Presonus forums for questions, or somewhere else?

For example, I noticed when you select a chord in the MIDI editor, and use the chord UP macro button for shifting up chord inversions, after the first time, only the top note remains selected, so for subsequent shifts, you have to re-select the chord.  Where might I get the quickest answer for this?

52 minutes ago, Bapu said:

I had some bestcoinz so.... $114.21 for me.

I'm a little excited for the lyric track.

The coolest thing about the lyric track is that you can navigate to any point in the project by just selecting a phrase.

I also like that you can de-clutter the workspace, depending on what activity you want to perform.

13 minutes ago, reginaldStjohn said:

I will wait till later when it is $79-99.

If you can go up to $99, I say go for the $16 extra from Best Service.