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    MNTRA 9.99 any instrument

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    On 9/24/2023 at 9:52 AM, Kirean said:

    Yeah. Also tried two different machines (connected via different connections) with different browsers. Also a pad. And VPN.

    No dice. I'm cursed.

    Try from a different house, then a different neighborhood

    Reaper 7 is coming... Not a deal

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    37 minutes ago, iNate said:

    Not quite sure thats how things went exactly for products like Studio One and Bitwig. 

    As products mature there is less room for innovation, so v6 is bound to be less revolutionary than v2. 

    But, "blah blah blah" is a bit exaggeratory, don't you think?

    By the time a product line gets to v5/6, users have generally pivoted towards asking for QoL over big ticket features. The product, by that point, has already established itself and the people looking for things like clip launchers have already chosen to go elsewhere and get it. 

    Expectations have been set, and the user base has largely leveled out and biased heavily towards those people who the DAW already meets the needs of, which ultimately tilts development in the direction of their desires. 

    Anything else becomes niche de facto, so the people who want it tend to choose a different product. 

    This is pretty standard across all product lines. 

    It's why most REAPER users are fine with the UI, even as many of us avoid it for that specific issue - in many cases choosing to pay a far higher price to get a product that delivers what we desire 😉 

    And REAPER is unlikely to improve in that area for the exact reasons I've mentioned. 

    To clarify, what I meant by "blah blah blah" was that the cycle repeats. Maybe that's how you interpreted it. 

    Also, I don't think you and I have very different opinions.

    Studio One is the only DAW I use. Reaper was the first DAW I learned how to use. Both DAWs are exactly in that part of the cycle where innovation is marginal at best. That's good and bad for them.

    I agree that Reaper, Studio One and other DAWs (and software beyond audio applications) benefit from a user base willing to stick with the same product not despite, but because of stability and familiarity (i.e., "lack" of innovation). I'd argue, however, that's where DAWs peak and users start to either migrate to other (more innovative) DAWs or stop paying for upgrades. For example, I don't plan to upgrade to S1 v6 or Reaper v6 (I paid for v5, so 6 is free for me, but I don't see why I should bother).

    Finally, I want to clarify that I'm not saying users want innovation for the sake of innovation (apart from a few early adopters), they want other things such as an improved ease of use, innovative business models, 3rd-party extensions,* workflows that didn't exist before, etc.*  They stick with a product until a new developer comes along with something that checks most of the boxes.

    * This was innovative in its time

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    Reaper 7 is coming... Not a deal

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    On 8/5/2023 at 5:19 AM, Last Call said:

    Yeah more of the same

    This is my non-developer take on developing (innovative) software:

    • you think of a million things you can improve from the status quo, and
    • create an innovating product that impresses people and makes them think "how innovative, if this is v1, imagine v6!!"
    • however, every new version becomes more complex and, adding to the complexity, it has to be compatible with previous versions
      • in the case of Reaper this is probably worse since there's an ecosystem of 3rd-party extensions
    • by the time v5 comes along people are "blah, what else is new.... uh! look! that other developer created a truly innovative daw, if this is v1, imagine v6!!"
    • however, every new version.... blah blah blah

    Last Night's Gig

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    34 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said:

    There's a fair amount of research showing that playing an instrument does all kinds of good for the brain.

    there's a fair amount of research (by me) showing that what a fair amount of research says is good in general doesn't do anything for me

    😉

    ENDED ... Pluginguru Unify for $47.40

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    42 minutes ago, jngnz said:

    I did last time all you guys went crazy when it went on sale and I haven't found any use for it. Might just be me going "meh, I can do that in Bitwig anyway" though.

    Me too. Although I haven't installed yet, maybe that's why I haven't found a use for it or a sound I like. 😂

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