Alan Tubbs

If you need a no compromise interface try the Neumann mt 48.  It is a take off of merging technologies hardware.  Just finished a tape op review and it worked fine on pc.  136 dB gain on crystal clear preamps, reference quality adda and an internal digital mixer for 0 latency and world class eq (and the dynamics on each channel ain’t shabby at all).  it has most of the features of a large format console including a monitor sections.  It has a great but small touch screen with easy access to the most used functions.  

When I checked to see if it was outputting sound I plugged in the headphones ( I cracked a couple of lamar’s so digging around low didn’t appeal to me until more pain meds kicked in).  My Akg 240s sounded better than my mains.  If you want to hear that step up from commercial gear pros talk about try it.

It does cost almost 2 grand but is worth it if you can afford it.

Let us know what you think after living with it a while.  I never got a chance to review this unit and have the transformer coupled outputs from my RND summer but it always nice to hear what others think.  Warm stuff generally punches above its price.  The ssl unit costs 1000s more.  Even if I thought it was worth it I couldn’t afford it.

This topic has a huge, locked thread.  Read it and you’ll see there is no known answer until cake releases it.

I haven’t had any probs with the newer ultralight M5 on pc.

Cakewalk has had several different plans for payment.  
 

Mostly you just bought a lease of the software (you don’t own the software and can’t use the code itself ).  You can, tho continue to use the software until MS breaks something.  This usually came with a years worth of updates.

cakewalk has sold versions of their DAW with effects and softsynths included, or just plain.  Those cost more but continue to work to MS breaks something.  Updates incl for the year.

and the most problematic was rent to own.  You sent in a monthly payment for 12 months and then you owned the last version of cakewalk you paid for.   It didn’t die and leave you stranded.  Why this is so hard to grasp is beyond me.  Maybe if cake called it layaway.

If you read all that cakewalk has put out  here and on-site it seems that CbB is going to eventually wither into obsolescence since it won’t get updated.  Window will eventually break it.  Two of my favorite synths died this slow death - Komplexer and one that went Mac only.

this makes sense if you are selling software.  Don’t kill the golden goose but don’t unnecessarily ***** your base.  After 6 months or a year CbB will be phased out (see the link below and read staff’s remarks).  No more freeloading of their top line software.  You’ll have to decide on Sonar, Next, Bandlab or some other company’ Daw.

 https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar

Hopefully there will be a cheaper standard Sonar and one with cakewalk synths and effects.  By now Bandlab Co has a good idea of expenses for keeping Sonar (and Next!) updated.  Hopefully the vanilla version of Cakewalk with come in from  a hundred dollars to 2 hundred and keeps the flow of newbies from Bandlab entering their paid world.  

See Next.

Thanks Bass,

these are all new interfaces for review.  They all say windows 11.

Thanks all.

My main rig is still windows 10.   I’ve been testing various interfaces this year and they all seem to work fine.  The new Neumann interface is next on the list.

pros con at this point in windows development.

A bit on the expensive side, but an excellent input channel.  RND cut and simplified features but the sound is  the same as the “new” Neve cleaner sound.  This is not an 1073 or older neve sound like the RND Shelford channel strip but more in the line of the Portico ll.

it goes for 2000$ which is a lot, but not for a professional tool.  The sound is brilliant and the control it does provide is well chosen, if stripped down (semi parametric eq, fixed comp attack, etc.).  If you can get one you won’t have to ask yourself is it me not capturing the signal?  It is and not the equipment.

a great price for what you get.  But get two as there is a link function and as a buss effect it really shines (as well as stereo recording).

The review should be in Tape Op’s next issue.  Tape Op is free just sign up.  An audio engineer’s magazines.

Greg, 

add “solved” to the title so others can see your solution.

7 hours ago, sjoens said:

It should load with bitbridge in CbB.

Or open project in P5 if it installs and check the settings there.

Was there a Dimension other than LE and Pro?

The unpro simple Dimension was part of P5. I don’t think it was included in Sonar until after it became Dimension Pro.

On what?

Yea, that was going to be my suggestion - fins a transfer shop usually in video production house.

Most soft effects have presets for drums, guitar etc.  that is as close as you’re gonna get.  what you actually asking is to be replaced by AI.

Dithering is the last process to do for a final mix file.  Don’t dither unless it is a final file that you don’t plan on working on that file anymore.

check both dithering algorithms and use whichever one sounds best to you.

Most rooms can be made decent for little money.  I made some traps and it cleaned a lot of sludge out of the way.

these are simple to make.  Buy some rockwool at a Home Depot or such, order some pillow covers from Amazon and have your coffee roaster or find one that will give you enough 70 kilo burlap bags.  Cut the rockwool into pillow sized panels, stuff them into the cases to keep fibers at bay and put them into the decorative burlap bag and hang them in the corners and reflective spots.  It will clean up your soundstage for under $100 and an afternoon.

Maybe  Moog has better shipping than Uri.

25 minutes ago, bitflipper said:

I have no inside information to offer, but my educated guess is that there is a good chance Z3ta+ might make a comeback.

As you know, much of the bundled content included with classic Sonar was licensed from third parties (e.g. TruePianos). Most of those are gone for good. In some cases, the companies behind them don't even exist anymore (e.g. Kjaerhus).

However, some third-party products were purchased outright by Cakewalk (e.g. Sonitus Suite) and would therefore have been part of the intellectual property that BandLab purchased. Those plugins stand the best chance of revival. Z3ta+ falls into that category. 

Z3ta+ was developed by one René G. Ceballos under the name RGC:Audio. René also created the immensely popular Dimension Pro and Rapture. About the time Dim Pro appeared in Sonar, Cakewalk bought RGC:Audio and hired René. A couple years later, Rapture and then Z3ta+ came along.

Now, this is all from memory so I could be fuzzy on the sequence of events, but it would appear that Z3ta+ is owned by BandLab now, hence my optimisim.

 

I think Rene already had zeta going before Cakewalk came calling.  I always thought it was Zeta, then the + plus for Cakewalk’s version while Rene worked on the Dimension sampler for P5. Then the freestanding Dimension Pro, followed by Rapture.  Rapture pro contained the samples and programs for Dimension Pro and so superseded it.  I think that is the correct sequence.

id love a new Rapture Pro.  The original was good but had some flaws.  Still I used it as one of my main synths for 10+ years.

Most users figured Bandlab would improve and release their for sale modules like the synths or fx.  They did, just 5 ye@rs later.  BL has already intimated they will “bundle” DAWs, one assumes with Sonar and NEXt together but also synths and effects.  I’m sure they are studying responses to their announcement and fine tuning pricing.

If you have the installers zeta2 still works.

Here here Ed.  I lost my fav synth too when Alchemy went Mac only and a lot of libraries, too.  Where do I go to get my investment back?  Maybe Cakewalk should pay since that was the DAW I was using.  Yea, that’s the ticket.

Yea those were the days when people paid $500 for a DAW with a goodly collection of synths ( Dimension pro, Rapture and Zeta 2 ) and fx.  Most of it good if not great.  If you used the provided apps you were covered.

most DAWs cost less than that now and come with a good synth.

maybe Sonar should come in a 16bit version like bigwig for $100?  Save your money and bandwidth.

Anyone who bought into Gibson’s eternal updates - did you really believe they would support SONAR until judgement day?  I figured that out in HS when other guys from the football team were selling gym memberships for life.  It is an important lesson to learn “that which is too good to be true” usually isn’t.  Even in HS it didn’t take too much thinking to figure out lifetime couldn’t work.  Hopefully any user who believed Gibson learned a lesson that could save them a lot more in the future.  yes, it still sucks but don’t burn your Gibson guitars in protest.

as far as CbB, it is pretty funny users are upset that they might have to pay for a world-class DAW after 5 free years.  Yea, I know that sucks too.  Everybody loves free but that doesn’t provide much upkeeping.  If you want your DAW to keep current you are going to have to pay something at some point.

I don’t think BandLab owes any of us anything but I will be disappointed if they don’t make a generous deal for old users and the free users that they’ve built their product with.  But not free.  Since Cakewalk (jeez, what is the proper name for the EASY and Sonar company?) is still formulating pricing, I can just ask for them to be gentle but ignore all the threats of users leaving.  If users can’t support Sonar or EASY let them find a better DAW cheaper (and let us know).

as a P5 lover I have a hope EASY is similar to it, but Mac abled too.  And provide the missing link between Mac world and the PC Sonar.  That would be worth paying for.