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Alan Tubbs

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  1. My main rig is still windows 10.   I’ve been testing various interfaces this year and they all seem to work fine.  The new Neumann interface is next on the list.

    pros con at this point in windows development.

  2. A bit on the expensive side, but an excellent input channel.  RND cut and simplified features but the sound is  the same as the “new” Neve cleaner sound.  This is not an 1073 or older neve sound like the RND Shelford channel strip but more in the line of the Portico ll.

    it goes for 2000$ which is a lot, but not for a professional tool.  The sound is brilliant and the control it does provide is well chosen, if stripped down (semi parametric eq, fixed comp attack, etc.).  If you can get one you won’t have to ask yourself is it me not capturing the signal?  It is and not the equipment.

    a great price for what you get.  But get two as there is a link function and as a buss effect it really shines (as well as stereo recording).

     

    The review should be in Tape Op’s next issue.  Tape Op is free just sign up.  An audio engineer’s magazines.

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  3. 7 hours ago, sjoens said:

    It should load with bitbridge in CbB.

    Or open project in P5 if it installs and check the settings there.

    Was there a Dimension other than LE and Pro?

    The unpro simple Dimension was part of P5. I don’t think it was included in Sonar until after it became Dimension Pro.

  4. Dithering is the last process to do for a final mix file.  Don’t dither unless it is a final file that you don’t plan on working on that file anymore.

    check both dithering algorithms and use whichever one sounds best to you.

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  5. Most rooms can be made decent for little money.  I made some traps and it cleaned a lot of sludge out of the way.

    these are simple to make.  Buy some rockwool at a Home Depot or such, order some pillow covers from Amazon and have your coffee roaster or find one that will give you enough 70 kilo burlap bags.  Cut the rockwool into pillow sized panels, stuff them into the cases to keep fibers at bay and put them into the decorative burlap bag and hang them in the corners and reflective spots.  It will clean up your soundstage for under $100 and an afternoon.

  6. 25 minutes ago, bitflipper said:

    I have no inside information to offer, but my educated guess is that there is a good chance Z3ta+ might make a comeback.

    As you know, much of the bundled content included with classic Sonar was licensed from third parties (e.g. TruePianos). Most of those are gone for good. In some cases, the companies behind them don't even exist anymore (e.g. Kjaerhus).

    However, some third-party products were purchased outright by Cakewalk (e.g. Sonitus Suite) and would therefore have been part of the intellectual property that BandLab purchased. Those plugins stand the best chance of revival. Z3ta+ falls into that category. 

    Z3ta+ was developed by one René G. Ceballos under the name RGC:Audio. René also created the immensely popular Dimension Pro and Rapture. About the time Dim Pro appeared in Sonar, Cakewalk bought RGC:Audio and hired René. A couple years later, Rapture and then Z3ta+ came along.

    Now, this is all from memory so I could be fuzzy on the sequence of events, but it would appear that Z3ta+ is owned by BandLab now, hence my optimisim.

     

    I think Rene already had zeta going before Cakewalk came calling.  I always thought it was Zeta, then the + plus for Cakewalk’s version while Rene worked on the Dimension sampler for P5. Then the freestanding Dimension Pro, followed by Rapture.  Rapture pro contained the samples and programs for Dimension Pro and so superseded it.  I think that is the correct sequence.

    id love a new Rapture Pro.  The original was good but had some flaws.  Still I used it as one of my main synths for 10+ years.

  7. Yea those were the days when people paid $500 for a DAW with a goodly collection of synths ( Dimension pro, Rapture and Zeta 2 ) and fx.  Most of it good if not great.  If you used the provided apps you were covered.

    most DAWs cost less than that now and come with a good synth.

    maybe Sonar should come in a 16bit version like bigwig for $100?  Save your money and bandwidth.

  8. Anyone who bought into Gibson’s eternal updates - did you really believe they would support SONAR until judgement day?  I figured that out in HS when other guys from the football team were selling gym memberships for life.  It is an important lesson to learn “that which is too good to be true” usually isn’t.  Even in HS it didn’t take too much thinking to figure out lifetime couldn’t work.  Hopefully any user who believed Gibson learned a lesson that could save them a lot more in the future.  yes, it still sucks but don’t burn your Gibson guitars in protest.

    as far as CbB, it is pretty funny users are upset that they might have to pay for a world-class DAW after 5 free years.  Yea, I know that sucks too.  Everybody loves free but that doesn’t provide much upkeeping.  If you want your DAW to keep current you are going to have to pay something at some point.

    I don’t think BandLab owes any of us anything but I will be disappointed if they don’t make a generous deal for old users and the free users that they’ve built their product with.  But not free.  Since Cakewalk (jeez, what is the proper name for the EASY and Sonar company?) is still formulating pricing, I can just ask for them to be gentle but ignore all the threats of users leaving.  If users can’t support Sonar or EASY let them find a better DAW cheaper (and let us know).

    as a P5 lover I have a hope EASY is similar to it, but Mac abled too.  And provide the missing link between Mac world and the PC Sonar.  That would be worth paying for.

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  9. Chris,


    Maybe if one can’t scrounge up a little cash for 5 years worth of free updates to what was a free program you can find a better deal somewhere else.  BandLab doesn’t owe anybody a free DAW forever and I’m grateful they’ve kept cakewalk going.
     

     That being said, BandLab should have a cheap, clean version for the benefit of future customers or those that have plenty of fx and synths.  Maybe for the destitute they can provide a crippled-up version with only a dozen audio tracks or so.  The first DAW I bought was Plasma, an early cakewalk looper Daw.  I got a crippled copy out of one of the European mags.  I upgraded from that version until CbB today.  
     

    Quite  frankly, I’m not too interested in paying for someone else’s software.  However, don’t mind helping BandLab expand their paying base which helps everybody who uses the software.  
     

    But the more I think about it the more I figure you are right.  CbB needs to end at some point because far too many would be customers will stick with a free version rather than paying to upgrade.  Of course bandlab should give a long lead time before they close CbB and plenty of warning so any one could save up for Sonar or find a cheaper DAW.Another reason to keep the basic Sonar cheap.
     

    Mark, 

     

    I said a stripped down version.  My interpretation of stripped down means none of the more expensive software add ons like synths and melodyne and such.  I thought that was clear.  Did it not read that way to you?

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  10. 37 minutes ago, chris.r said:

    I hear this is the main reason for a group of oldtimers now being more active, ready to pay whatever money is needed just for keeping things like in the old days, now that would make sense. Wondering what part of the overall userbase would that be. I see a lot of the newer users, since the free Cakewalk, are already confused whether they should stay or jump onto something else, free or cheap. And that's even before any details regarding the price are given.

    The whole point of having it free was to create new users.  Bandlab never said they were going to provide the a world class DAW for free for ever.  Yet cakewalk by Bandlab will remain free even after another update.  It should be good to go for as long as the OS updates work with it.  And Next seems a next logical step for any new users.  I’m actually stoked to see it and hope it is somewhat like P5.  I loved that software.

    And the reason I use Sonar here at home is it works for me naturally.  In the early aughts I tried out the various DAWS and liked Cakewalks look and flow.  It needed to pc back then for home - couldn’t afford a Mac.  I’ve stuck with it since and thru the change to Sonar  (that was a major change in look and flow).  The only DAW I liked better was P5.

    it sounds like the new Bandlab’s DAWs will have most people covered.  

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  11. One also has to figure in how much time and cuss jar fees are involved in learning a new DAW.  If you get older such becomes a real time suck.  I can barely find time here at home to work on music.  I certainly don’t want to spend that time re-wiring my brain when I could be creating.  And at this stage of my life I can afford money over time and whatever Cake charges doesn’t touch the hardware here at home.  Just got a new mk5 ultilight to use with last years summing mixer.  And that doesn’t include other software like pigments and and the new crop of granular reverbs which all  run les than $100.  But for most of my career such was real money and a much bigger investment, so I am sensitive, but also cakewalk or whatever we decide to call the company and software needs to live too - otherwise I’ll spend all my time learning software instead of using it when they go the way of the dodo Gibson.

    for giggles I’ll put out a spec sheet:

    Next - I’m not sure what it is.  A step up from the free Bandlab software? Maybe pay.  Hopefully you can use it on the Mac so cakewalk can have an in there.

    And the new Sonar, stripped down or for owners of previous or paid versions maybe  $100.  Maybe $200 for new users if it includes some starter native effects.  The pc eq is great, the 1176 is usable and the ssl buss is great and as good as you are going to find natively.

    then as stated above you could bundle the synths and other fxs.  Comes with rapture super pro for another $100.  A whole synth bundle with Zeta2 and some new libraries another $50.  The la2a comp (another very good emulation) and some special stuff like the aforementioned granular synth, as well as a good, naive and natural reverb.  Even tho I’ve spent plenty of money on those a good bundle would be hard to skip.

    plenty of other ways to skin the DAW.  But if you bought Sonar years ago you can’t really think 6 years of upgrades don’t need paying for, well, you get what got (I’m assuming cakewalk by Bandlab will still work for a while).

    a sensible price will keep most users and cakewalk can continue to add features and toys that most of us will eagerly lap up.

     

    what do you think will work?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  12. 10 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

    Because businesses are not your friends and people usually complain about stuff then end up buying the product/service anyways, so companies learned to just ignore the pissed off peple and continue doing whatever they were doing.

     

    Businesses that ***** customers don’t keep them.  They don’t have to your best buddy, just treat you decently.  
     

    Rupert Neve had a story about how the first console  they sold in the US back in the 60shad some bad woodwork.  Mr. Neve sent his carpenter to NYC for a couple of weeks to get it sorted and that cost him more than the profit he made on a $100K console.  Still, once word got around of what he’d done helped facilitate the next dozen consoles in the US in as many months.The good guys do win.  I had an Indian motorcycle dealer treat me right like that, too, and guess who gets my business now.

    it is amazing that if you aren’t a hole about things how much people will work with you.

    I think the new cakewalk will do right for most customers.  It sounds like cakewalk by Bandlab will be available for a long while for those that dont want to pay so you won’t lose all the money you spent on it w/Bandlab. There will be Next, and who knows what exactly it is.  And there will be a new pay version of Sonar.  Take your pick, partner.

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