Alan Tubbs

Continue to use cakewalk sonar and render all your midi and audio tracks and save the tracks.  Now when Bandlab sends you a ransome note for $15 you can transfer all your audio to a new DAW.

Done and you don’t have to give in to Bandlab’s taking the folding money out of your right pocket.  Just $100, 200 or 500 will get you a new and different Daw.

Nobody I know likes the subscription model.  Yet the #1 DAW is sub based - Pro tools.  We might not like it but it is a fact.  I don’t like paying taxes or co pays either.

i do think the roll out of of cakewalk sonar was … confusing.  It shouldn’t take so much effort to figure out what Cake is offering.  It is spread over various web pages and sites.  As far as I can tell Bandlab is mostly a social music site.  Cakewalk Sonar is a bonus for bandlab users that want to step up to pro output, but you have to keep paying.  Certainly not the straightest line.

But it is also true that  cakewalk use to charge $500, a year, for the full version of Sonars and also loaded with the latest synth that cost hundreds too. So your $150 a year sounds kind of puny and a good deal (even with out Dimension Pro or Rapture).  I never heard as much squealing over Sonar’s pricing. 
 

they are going to get your money one way or another.  It is natural to kick against the ***** but at some point you need to move forward.  My next choice would be Mixcraft since is a cheaper buy and works much the same as old Sonar.  But you know, you still have to pay for it, even if you buy it by paying off a credit card.

I don’t think the trial includes saving.  I could be wrong but I would think that is how Cakewalk Sonar works.

Thanks.

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The Newton is a reasonably priced RND channel strip with an excellent pre.  The isa one is good and cheap, relatively for a standalone.   It isn’t as thick sounding as the wa76.  But I found that putting a nice transformer somewheres in-line can help get “that sound” without a +$500 pre.  But  again, you are going to be spending that much per a channel on a decent comp or eq, so ….

If you already are are knowledgeable with CbB why pay for learning another DAW?

Thanks!

If AI writes the melody for you in BandLab, does google or ms get composer credit?  And does cakewalk Sonar get mechanical rights for playing the performance?  Asking for a friend.

Cakewalk Sonar is a subscription buy starting at $14.99 a month, tho there have sells available.  You also get Next, a simpler but Mac and PC DAw..  There is also a SoundCloud like playback software as well as social media accounts.

try CbC for free and see if it entices you to pay for the subscription.

Thanks for the update.  Mark your title with “solved” so future polybrute owners can find your solution.

thanks again.

Good point, Cakewalk did this to P5.  Like P5 and CbB, I think I'll get over it, even tho I really loved P5.

Off topic, but who says cakewalk by BandLab is disappearing.  Please cite.

I will add that Bandlab’s rollout hasn’t been smooth and has lots of confusion, unless you give them your credit card number.

but I would pay $1500 not to have use samplitude as my main DAW, esp. since Magix seems damned determined to cluster up all their software.  Their old Sony software has been rendered almost impossible to use.

You have a contract that needs to be honored.  If Bandlab wants to can give you a discount they can.  Ask about that.  A reasonalble request.

as far as capitalists go, I don’t care how they feel.  Deliver the goods and all is well.  And I care less how do-gooders feel. 

Add “solved” to the title of the thread so others can see the solution.

I haven’t had a problem with original warm.  Or the tone beast.  Perhaps you can check against your standard interface pre?  If the Warm is the problem I would complain to them.  The are (were) very responsive and used to go out of their way to be helpful.  

You can’t repackage the sounds themselves but you can publish the music produced.  The answer is yes.

Get at least a 2 inputs. A 2 x 4 config is really the minimum that allows the use of outboard, which is great and allows stereo work.

I've liked a lot of tascam units they are solid. Roland worked reliably  too in my experience.  FYI, these days I use motu with a Neumann m48.   Great clean capture and replication.

I don’t know anything  about the daw bandlab s sounds.  The forum deals with CbB and the new Sonar.  And I don’t know where this question should be asked.  Does Bandlab the DAW have a help section?  I would ask there.

You doing used mics?  AKG 414s start about $1000 at Sweetwater.

The microtech gefell m930 is hopefully cheaper and a great mic.  the original Neumann factory was moved across the Elbe river to what would become east Germany because of the allied bombing.  Microtech still makes the m7 capsule,for example and their m930 is a best in class for about @$1000 for instruments and solid vox.  It sounds great on about everything.  
 

The Austrian audio oc818 are akg guys who started a new company.  A good replacement unit and a little cheaper.

All bets are off with os changes and CbB.  I’ve lost plenty of software when they had updated versions MS.  Of course that has been a while so I would think CbB will work for years.

It looks like things are getting clearer.  @  $150 a year or @15 per month for the nu sonar and all of Bandlab stuff.  Or continue to use CbB for free until ms changes something vital and fails to work.  Now all bandlab has to do is add a perpetual license to the options and leave nu sonar operable once the lease period ends.

there are plenty of users willing to shell out $150 to $180 to keep Bandlab rolling for another year.