Michael Vogel

First post OP says “2020.09 if it matters. “

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Perhaps the reality is that in such a relatively small market such as DAWs (compared to the whole of the entertainment media market) there are just too many players today. BTW there have been enough big names to use Sonar that if that was really what would bring in a flood of new users it would have already happened. I think that ProTools locked the early digital adopters into hardware and software simultaneously. Provided a turnkey system when there wasn’t one. After a studio made such a big investment the game was already over. Big studios, our music starting point decades ago, wouldn’t change what worked back then nor are they going to change what continues to work today. No matter that I’ve worked with ProTools on a PC with non PT hardware and prefer several DAWs over it especially Cakewalk. I don’t own a multi million dollar studio and while I can own multiple DAWs and pretty good hardware it’s not a turnkey system which is what Pro Tools can offer. When you’re in the big name space that’s your solution not a cobbled together system. Sure a big expensive studio takes maintenance and down time too despite all the expensive toys, that’s the cost of doing business in the big space. Despite the fact that I can also manipulate audio in a way that took million of dollars of gear a few decades ago, I’m never going to attract a big name artist. I’m just not in that space and never have been. Anyway don’t want to start a war. Just one persons observation and opinion of course.

I have a Slate Media Technology Raven MT1 which is a 27” touch screen controller interface that doubles as a touch sensitive computer monitor with a dedicated licensed interface for Cubase 10.5 (currently) but Cakewalk does work on it natively though I don’t use it. Not sure whether it’s multi point touch capable though Cubase is 10 point (or is it 4 on the MT1?)(I don’t remember) touch capable within this system. I guess that’s a long way of saying that Cakewalk, like Sonar before it is touch capable but I’m not sure how many touch points can be used simultaneously. Because Sonar was always touch capable, Slate never designed a dedicated Raven interface for it. I haven’t used my system in a few years now so haven’t kept up with progress of the Slate eco-systems. I bought my MT1 just as the MT2 was being released with production holdups always causing delays but it was to be ages before the new version was going to be available in Australia so I went with the MT1 model. It’s a great monitor and very responsive - I should spend some time with it again as I know there’s been some software updates I’ve missed.

Yep I agree. When the OP mentioned DIY I assumed (but shouldn’t have) a budget build not up to the task (of live audio streaming) in the context of recording audio in Cakewalk while accessing the audio on a NAS. There’s a difference between streaming an audio or video track from disc to including that stream in live audio work. I run a Waves/DIGIGRID system where plug-in processing is offloaded to a specialised server for processing. I’m fairly familiar with pushing and pulling audio through a Gigabit network for real time processing. I always see it as a kind of dark art.

Sorry I’ve not read all the comments but - only use the NAS for backup and archiving. Don’t use it for live access to projects or samples for your audio projects. It just won’t be fast enough.

Contact JimRoseberry through this forum. He’s a long term Sonar/Cakewalk pro user and the company he owns and operates builds Studio PCs. For a modest fee he’ll provide you a list (including links where to buy) of tested not just recommended components for assemble yourself or build one for you. The advantage is that he knows from his vast system building experience, what works and what doesn’t or component incompatibilities that are unsuitable for a DAW. Many here have used his services including myself and I’ve never heard a negative comment. Additionally he’ll give you great support for a DIY setup and of course full warranties and support for his purpose built machines. All the best.

Blessed be the Cheese makers engineers. Even though its been happening for ~3 years now I can’t help but be amazed at their dedication and the quality of the work they pump out. Surely not just a job.

I'll always remember him as THAT guy who remained upbeat despite his illness and the other problems he faced. You'll be missed Bill. RIP.

I've been in several music cartoons; I mean bands. They weren't very funny either.

Its certainly not music or Cakewalk connected.

I’ve named it “Select every nth note.cal” and added it into my archive which I believe includes ALL known CAL scripts and teaching resources for CAL. As I understand it not all CAL ”hooks” work any longer as it has been deprecated and only “guaranteed” to work with the scripts that are still included with each release. Perhaps someone from Cakewalk who actually knows, could confirm or update my understanding. I’ll add that info into my archive to accurately update it.

I’ve used Cakewalk since the mid nineties (Cakewalk 7 when it was just a MIDI sequencer without audio recording) and it’s been my experience that for whatever reason, its always had an image problem and recognition as a top line DAW. Gibson put the final nail in the reputation coffin by the way it managed the product and despite the excellent development by Bandlab and that it can easily hold its own against all comers today, (as it could in the past pre Gibson days too) now it needs to combat the additional stigma of being a free program with all the implications that that baggage adds to its reputation. Were it open source as well as free, I think it would take on a much broader appeal. At one time or another I’ve owned every DAW available on the Windows platform (except SaDie) and Cakewalk has been the equal of any of them. Sure on a feature by feature basis there’s always something another DAW has that seems to be the most desirable feature at the time but generally speaking Cakewalk has always been the business. Apple’s dominance (or at least the perception of it) in the Professional Multi media space has hurt Cakewalk’s standing due to its PC only position and despite the calls to add Apple compatibility, its just never been feasible either financially or technically (It would need to be rewritten from the ground up for Apple). The DAW market just isn’t big enough to generate the sort of income that could recover the investment. A few years back one of our prominent users who now prefers Studio One, wrote extensively on the subject of DAW sales and its not the vast pool of wealth we might imagine. He didn’t publish any confidential info as he was no doubt bound by non-disclosure agreements but nonetheless his message was clear. The DAW market is just this tiny corner in the vast ocean that is the music/entertainment industry. At this point in time Meng’s vision for Cakewalk and how it’s tied to Bandlab removes any likelihood of it becoming cross platform, nor do I think it needs to. It obviously fulfils his need and how he purposes it to be now and how it will be going into the future. For now be glad that such a remarkably capable DAW continues to be free yet developed extensively and continually by a dedicated team some of whom can claim decades of working with Cakewalk’s code.

Congratulations (To Noel & team) on another great release. More than that though; I’m blown away by the extent of involvement by the devs especially post release and the speed with which they respond to questions and problem solving. Anybody would think Cakewalk is a fully paid for commercial product with a large development budget. This level of support far exceeds the efforts visible to users in the pre-Bandlab days. I know the team has always been fairly active on the forum but certainly not at today’s levels. I genuinely wonder what the change has been from then (Gibson days eg) to bring about this open dialog. It’s very refreshing.

And there’s Karen. Not heard from or about her in years. I know she went Studio One but who hasn’t at least tried that DAW or uses it along with Cakewalk or instead of.

It would be helpful to send the CrashDump to Cakewalk. It will give them invaluable insight and perhaps a way forward to remedy the issue. Cakewalk and Waves have a pretty good working relationship from my experience.

Thanks for the update. BTW, an interesting date choice to release the update. Cheers.

I’m not in front of my DAW at the moment so cant confirm, but I think that recently this was changed and the 6 month authorisation refresh is no longer required. Happy to be proved wrong but... UPDATE: Here’s a direct copy of the pinfold regarding Single Sign On which I believe removes the need for a deliberate action every 6 months to reauthorise Cakewalk. Feature in the most recent Cakewalk Update. (2021.01 Update 1) SSO (Single Sign-On) for Cakewalk activation Cakewalk supports SSO (Single Sign-On) for activation, which allows you to log in via any service supported by BandLab as your sign-in authority. Google, Facebook, Apple ID, mobile phone and BandLab user/password credentials are currently supported. SSO is only used for Cakewalk activation, and under normal circumstances you will only need to sign in once. Cakewalk will attempt to refresh your activation status silently and automatically on occasion during start up. Use the SSO login as you have done with your BandLab account in the past. Note that BandLab Assistant is still required for requesting offline activation of Cakewalk on computers that don’t have an Internet connection.

If you’re able to hear Cakewalk then the data is going through a “sound card” of some sort even if it’s only the onboard sound chips embedded in every laptop for listening to audio files and streaming services eg YouTube, Spotify etc. Quality will suffer as compared to a dedicated external “sound card” or audio device and you will need to select the correct audio driver mode for your onboard sound device.

So now you don’t have any virus protection. If you had followed the advice given you would still have full virus protection and your original problem would be dealt with appropriately. Rather than the blunt instrument of fully disabling Windows Defender.

It wasn’t really “my” folder as I saw it. With many decades of association with Cakewalk, Sonar and the forum I came to realise, as did many others, that there were valuable resources referenced in the various threads. Much of those resources were utilities and other content files that could benefit more users if only there was a single place where they could be accessed. So while it was my OneDrive space where the files were all stored at the beginning, the data actually belonged to the various contributors who made it available to share. I simply set up a library of sorts. While I had a vision that it could be much much more, unfortunately I was never in a position to have direct dialogue with any decision makers. Simply stated, not a single one of my requests to engage in dialogue was ever answered.

I was the Host who oversaw that particular part of the forum. Gibson wouldn’t give us any space for storing any content. Initially, after Karen setup up the threads I was provided Host status over that area only. I had no Host privileges or access to other parts of the forum, only the first 2 threads. Any contributions that were made in the form of files like skins, programs eg. scooks many contributions of Sonar utilities and many file contributions from others were all stored on my personal OneDrive account. I provided links (to my OneDrive Acct) for the files that were embedded in those threads so people could freely access them. When I decided to stop providing the oversight required another member (Elfinn) volunteered to take over and all the files were moved to his BOX account. I tried unsuccessfully on many occasions to engage higher ups regarding the development of this part of the site as several others saw potential in what had begun, sadly I didn’t even get to have meaningful with anyone in authority. My status as a Host was so constrained, I did’t even have the means to engage in online meetings with the other Hosts It remained that way until the old forum was archived. You can still go to the old forum and you’ll see that in the Studio/Software forum the first thread, Sonar and Cakewalk by Bandlab Resources and Utilities then a further thread where Submissions could be made. The main thread was permanently locked so that only Elfinn and or myself could update li is etc. The second thread was a place where a forum member could submit a program, link or other file fir evaluation and possible inclusion in the main thread.

All the best Bill. Hope things go well for you.

The inescapable truth of these tests is that there’s a bunch of old farts in the Coffee House. Psstt! Did you hear the one about... Oh, that’s right, you can’t hear... fade to silence.

Nice to see that there’s finally a place for sharing Content created for Cakewalk. That type of provision was reasonably well supported by Sonar users in the old forum, but lacked any real support from the company as any shared files were stored personally by those moderating that particular forum. Perhaps now that it’s a Bandlab promoted space (I think) users can get the full benefit of company support for maintaining it. I hope it goes well.