Quinellipe Zorn

I had coincidentally started trying out Bitwig before the sale, and have been impressed, so went with the sale. Interesting to see things that still are better in Cakewalk (not a lot, but e.g. and especially audio to MIDI, which I see Bitwig's users complaining about - and to be fair maybe I still haven't researched enough; I paid for Melodyne, anyway, so I can always get around it one way or another, but the workflow in Cakewalk still seems best for my purposes), and loving what Bitwig does that I haven't had access to as I haven't spent time on getting into a more contemporary-footed DAW (in particular the quantization and stretching are fantastic).

I also thought it meant the feature was regressed. Thx for asking and clarification!

I have found a couple times now (and I'd forgotten until going through it again with v15) simply WAITING caused the issues with Waves plugin disappearances! I don't mean waiting for Cakewalk's apparent scanning as it shows, either, just literally leaving and coming back in half an hour. It is as if the apparent scanning is not the only thing going on and perhaps, as I see the cache mentioned above, cache cleaning happens "too" late compared to the user's actions - not saying that's what it is, just saying that's "as if." I don't claim to know why, specifically. I just know doing nothing actually works better than screwing around with it from the last 2 Waves updates.

Usually I exit the song and go back in, then mix it all down, that's the only way I can be sure. Seems about 25% of the time I don't do that, as you say, I get one track or some-such unwanted result. Sorry for the thread-necromancy, just wanted to comment on it.

Thanks, didn't see it on the site, just noticed the change in wording. So I guess it's official the only sales outlet is via Bandlab, as seems no other info available.

I noticed also that now the Sonar and Next pages refer to the products as normally/now available via Bandlab membership, without any caveats or qualifications, so maybe this is simply the quiet go-live and that's it? There's nothing on the page indicating that there's any sort of next iteration of making it (even) more broadly available, so to anyone without history, it seems like this is the normative way. Though I haven't seen any announcement about the formal retirement/end of life of CbB aside from that it will happen, didn't miss anything about some new date, correct? I think I glanced through the major topics, I presume that would generate significant traffic/notice.

Or even the best forum? Is there some new/separate place dedicated to Sonar (or Sonar and Next, or whatever)?

Thanks, all, sorry for my late response! Been busy with a trip and also was curious how long it would take for this to recur (which it just did after >2 weeks). It *seems* tied to windowing issues, although as of this time I haven't seen any yet; but last time, I could see some window UI oddities at the same time. I also note that it is very specifically hanging on two events in CbB: "Start Screen" and only at the point where the main track UI panel finalizes/appears. To the above point re this PC's power, yes, hasn't been an issue until quite recently, sometime after the most recent CbB (but, again, I don't want to imply it's that, I'm just identifying general timeframes). I don't run any defrags on these; stopped years ago even before pure SSDs as with contemporary drives and systems I found it stopped making any difference. I'm hesitant to do anything to the SSDs given CbB is the sole application manifesting any real issues (asides from aforementioned, perhaps-coincidental) oddities, and ease of restoration coupled with infrequent occurrence - especially considering whenever Cakewalk has this issue, there's no obvious issues going on with video editing and rendering, let alone any other applications. Thx re RAMMap tip; I'll keep an eye. I did clear memory just now, as you mentioned, @OutrageProductions, but to no avail/no difference. Yes, there was a lot of memory in standby, but clearing it made no difference. From experience, I'd rather leave Windows indexing services running on the current OS, if CbB is the sole application that suffers from it. Disabling the fetching made no difference. No Windows updates appear to be running (tho' good callout, have seen those cause other issues). Thx re Magician, though the drives aren't supported for diagnostic scan. Though no apparent issues at least re heat or other indicators. As said, not too eager to do much on drives if only CbB suffers while my video stuff has no issues.

main stuff - Asus ROG STRIX B550-F motherboard Ryzen 7 5800X CPU Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti graphics card Corsair RM850X power supply Windows 11 Home 23H2 64 GB RAM happy to answer more, thx

Would Cakewalk really be the sole application symptomatic (including editing/rendering video) if there were an SSD issue? I do run anyway some "casual" diagnostics which haven't shown anything, but can do something more in-depth.

Thanks for the suggestions, appreciated. Nope, no spinning drives left at least in terms of anything Cakewalk uses at all (external storage devices only, internal drives are both SSD). I was thinking fragmentation be consistently symptomatic with other drive-hungry applications and, moreover, have some consistency in terms of when/what Cakewalk is loading? Nothing seemingly relevant in Admin Events/nothing tied to when this happened again yesterday evening. Nothing I see unusual. Sorry, what sort of independent monitoring SW, to see which aspects in particular? Will try, especially to see if it works even though the system has plenty of standby right now, for example, thanks.

Hi, I have the latest CbB. Perhaps since getting that, as it started happening recently (last couple months), without obvious proximate cause, that at some point after my PC's been running for "a while", however many days, CbB will suddenly become painfully slow in launching and doing any operations at all. The easy and quick solution is to reboot. Clears it up every time. I'm not suggesting CbB is the cause; whatever the cause is, CbB appears to be the only symptomatic application. There is no obvious plugin use or obviously distinctive activity or predecessor that triggers this. Any advice on figuring out what may be the cause is welcome. There's no obvious memory consumption problems, no overloaded processor. Occurs whether the C drive has more or less data. It typically occurs upon application launch, though most recently it became symptomatic upon opening another Cakewalk file whereas one was already open and performance had been just fine until opening the second file (and this file has no issues otherwise, and opens fine upon reboot or the like; also, yes, I can repeat the process within Cakewalk, but the symptoms will not repeat). The only theory I presently have is that there's some sort of memory fragmentation that develops after startup, again no idea what application(s) might be the cause if so (Vegas across multiple recent releases would be a candidate; perhaps the most recent CbB), and at some point Cakewalk is struggling to properly address memory. But doesn't seem so likely. Suggestions welcome. Not a huge issue, just would be nice to resolve/make life a little easier. Thank you!

I'm not suggesting the "bakers" are responsible. This is the forum I am on, this is the one where we talk about the product, if Bandlab isn't somehow incorporating this feedback it is not my job to do their sentiment analysis and so forth for them, nor to chase after wherever they might be when this is very clearly a forum they know people are voicing opinions (PS - more specifically, come for support, which will beget a lot of feedback with it; it's their job to review that correspondence, and if they aren't, that says a lot about the company and direction; it also tells me then there's no point in voicing anything at all to them).

Maybe it's my eyes/prescription (or just that I don't clean my lenses enough, haha) but seems fine to me except that I prefer the font in the CbB, that seems to cause the equivalent of "blurring" in the Sonar one, a bit of "messy" what-is-it, kerning? some-such...my spouse professionally knows this stuff but not handy

you're like me, old enough to see it come around again. from what I see it's a seesaw in underlying notions of what is crisp, what is attractive, what is frictionless; I doubt it will ever be "solved" (I remember, what was it, the '90s, the dream of every user having their own UI - I guess that will come back again sometime tho' is mostly disdained/in disrepute, and I do understand the issues with non-directed/non-best-practice UI paths