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  1. Just a few things I experienced, having offline computer always as working in daw
    - software trying to go online for various reasons, like looking for updates

    I had consistently within 10-12 minutes from start of system this caused crackles.
    On Cubase Pro so bad that audio engine restarted completely, 7 threads restarting, so if recording then audio engine and recording would stop

    Locating all software doing this checking for updates, or something towards internet - this went away.

    Now remaining I had only on every hour of uptime of system left - like 1:00:02, 2:00:02 uptime etc consistently creating the same problem.
    Cubase Pro stopped recording, and produced serious crackles playback as well.
    Cubase Elements, Reaper, Sonar, StudioOne only produced a minimum pop that these occasions - no recording issues.

    I never located this and what produces it. Worked for 3 weeks to solve it, looked for all kind of threads started then, there were none - so obviously in a thread that were running already. If I were online while this hourly, it happends this went away - so something is trying to access internet and unable to. That's how far it went.
    I used SysInternals ProcessExplorer to open windows for every process, and filming screens to look over if anything happends in a certain process, no sign of activity.
    Looked through Task Scheduler which had some stuff for hourly test, that I disabled, but no difference.

    I currently get a small pop in playback in Cakewalk, and just live with this. Nothing affect recording, nor offline rendering - just an hourly pop if transport is running.

    It's on Dell Vostro 430 with Windows 7 for me and you see uptime in Task Manager. They changed so much in Windows 10, not sure if there anymore.
    Just a few ideas....

    ...one more thing I found in the process - cpu throttling, so look that performance profile or whatever it is called is only 100% minimum and 100% maximum cpu. But usually seen as if latency is below 200 us normally, there are spikes at 1500 or above at the time.


  2. If miking amp does sound muddy and I came to think if what I did at the time I had situation to play amp at normal levels to mike up.
    Miking position is the key, to get this right I did
    - play at very low volume and had headphones on, so I get very little bleed right over to phones, you should clearly here through phones at least
    - try angles and distance and position of mike in front of cab
    - different distance give different low end more than anything(almost 20 years ago so don't remember details)
    - angle just a few degrees and change position to cone also is a trial and error
    - then when getting the amount of low, mid and highs balance - do at normal level and do recording

    So being muddy in you case, could be too much low end, increase distance to cab with mike.

    At the time I liked like 10-15" distance and not angled much.
    Some just put right at cab slightly from center of cone, but I did not like that at all.
    You should be getting the most of the mike like this.

    There are various attenuators out there to get volume down and still crunch you want.
    I got the www.tedweber.com attenuator elements long ago and use Radial JDX DI which is connected between amp and load.
    JDX also has speaker emulation that I am happy with. So no fuss recording at all, like with mikes.


  3. Thanks guys.
    I'm not looking for anything other than fixing an anomali in Cakewalk Solo Override compared to any other daws with this solo defeat/safe/save/exempt that exist.
    It's very useful feature when you can set and forget - and it does not work this way in Cakewalk.

    There are some strange Solo behavior that appear in some session after an hour or so, where nothing solo works - and restarting Cakewalk fixes it.
    Suddenly no sound on busses unless soloing them as well etc.
    But much harder to track down enough to assist Bakers how to reproduce.

    So just focused on Solo Override for now.


  4. What I did to remedy similar issue - I took the video into PowerDirector(or any video editor) and offset it in timeline 8s, just about bar 5 in Cakewalk default. 

    Then rendering this, it will not re-render video to reduce quality using smart rendering, but inserts black frames at start of timeline before video start.

    This way trim will work as in your case when imported into Cakewalk.  Just adjust to sync with scenes or lipsynk you need.

    I zoomed in to individual frames, and then set bar 5 exactly on first frame - since I start projects at bar 5 for various reasons.


  5. Thanks, yes I tend to use too many words.

    I did send an email to support yesterday and reported what I believe is the essential content of it all.
    - what is happening
    - what you expect
    Most obvious is that activating solo override, does not solo anything by itself - on other daws.

    To test

    Protools call it solo safe.
    Cubase call it solo defeat.
    Reaper call it solo defeat
    StudioOne call it Solo Save.

    Very handy to just set any effect busses you create to solo override, you can solo any track and if sends to a effect bus that sounds too.
    Saves a lot of clicks every time you want to solo something.
    Time saver for sure.

    There is some setting link prefader send to mute or similar i aud.ini, and to alter standard behavior of solo override could be done in a similar way, if they consider it as intended as it is now.


  6. Ok, thanks, so I explained badly.

     

    Cubase, Reaper and StudioOne. And just trialed Digital Performer, but it was there too. As I understand Logic Pro too, on Mac then(just googled quickly).

    Logic Pro

    https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57298

     

     

    - on the effect busses you have you activate solo override(or whatever they called it)

    - but it does not solo by itself, it's just there prepared for when you later on want to solo some tracks or busses

    - so creating a new effect bus you just activate this and forget about it.

    So when eventually do solo on a track, this track is soloed, and the solo override you made before does not get muted

    This is what I call set and forget. They are there and does not bother you until you Solo a track or Bus.

     

    In Cakewalk as soon as you do Solo override on a bus - it solos this bus????

    It has the same effect as doing solo itself - so it serves no purpose.

    So you have to go through possible effect busses and solo them, as well as any other track you want soloed - every time you want to solo a single track.

    Then not wanting solo the track anymore, you have to undo the solo on the effect busses too - every time.

    I mean this is the idea behind solo override(solo safe, solo exempt) - to just set those you don't want muted when soloing one or a couple of other tracks. Like you do for recording, and using DimOnSolo - you solo those you record to stay more in front, but to get effect busses you want non-muted you have to fiddle with that soloing them as well - every time.

     

    I see no difference between Solo and SoloOverride as it is now - since SoloOverride is soloing that bus immediately.

    There are other weirdness with Solo in Cakewalk, and nothing works eventually in a project while working, but closing and opening again fix that.

    So something about Solo needs some attention in Cakewalk, I think. I am trying to collect reproduce procedure to report later.

     

    But some things like regarding if to have sends muted when track is muted has settings in ini-files. You can configure how you want that.

    So thought maybe something is there regarding this SoloOverride too.

     

    But it might be just something broken regarding this SoloOverride or I am missing something.


  7. I keep coming back to solo issues.

    It' so easy to set up Solo Override in so many other daws, what you know is effect busses, metronome etc and never have to deal with it again.

    But in Cakewalk Solo Override activates solo on that track.

    So you always have to set up and then remove with any solo thingy you are about to do. Serves no purpose IMO.

    You can just use solo if you have to redo every time.

    All other implementations I found it is just there if you do ordinary solo on any other track too.

    Thanks.

    No special settings anywhere for this to work like in most daws?


  8. I'm just intrigued by this new stuff for 3D audio for phones - Windows Sonic and Dolby Atmos.
    To normal stereo phones you produce full surround in as many channels as you could wish for.

    But will test now my surround phones from Sony which take 5.1 or 7.1 input and will see how good positioning they do.
    Front and back is usually what is overlooked what I saw so far. It's just becomes in your head.

    This newer technology do true spatial processing into normal stereo phones - and that would be true 3D audio.

    I'm bought this Wavearts Panorama 6 but it does not really do front/back positioning, it's all in your head on left side, over your head and to right side.
    Problem with both Microsoft Windows Sonic and Dolby Atmos is that their business is built on selling decoders and/or encoders.
    So you have to write for their API systems to target these decoders they provide for this.

    I am hoping to find somebody that did both encoding and decoding like this in one box so you could feed and mix surround into true 3D audio into normal stereo phones.


    I just love this idea to target stereo phones and do all kinds of positioning of music and effects. So many people listen inear phones or phones anyway today.
    Here is good readup on windows sonic
    https://www.howtogeek.com/356481/how-windows-sonic-spatial-sound-works/


  9. Hi
    As I understand I can use 6 channel wave files.
    And you can mix to surround bus.
    If that bus is last before hardware outs - is audio to render picked up at bus out, or does it need hardware outs?

    I have stereo out on RME HDSP 9632, and a free unused ADAT optical out, and figured I can route 4 outputs to these.
    But since no DA is connected to those, will rendering 6 channel work?

    Is ASIO used for rendering so it must be picked up another way to real DA converters?

    I thought I would make test patterns for 5.1 sound and maybe 7.1 and render in PowerDirector as Dolby or DTS and test surround phones how well they position channels.
    But would like to user Cakewalk recording the audio.

    Or if there are such test patterns to download, that could be a cool thing to test as well.
    Thanks.


  10. This happend to me long ago when I had windows sounds active - and running project at 48k and maybe get a "ding" sound from windows when a dialog pops up and similar - could be enough for soundcard to switch sample rate to what windows use. But this was a rather fixed change in pitch then, at the time Sonar could run at 44k suddenly.

    Just an idea, if any activity is connected to this happening - turn off internal soundcard in bios and also windows sounds.


  11. The reported latency is adjusted automatically, so clips are moved back by that amount, I think even roundtrip latency as calculated is what is used.
    But as said, that means that interface must have AD and DA encoders on them, so that is reported too.

    Pure ADAT cards like RME RayDat does not have encoders, so extra values for AD and DA converters delay must be added.
    My RME HDSP 9632 has if it was 149 samples on DA and 111 on AD. And strangely enough the piggyback addon card AI4S is different by 6 samples.
    My Audient ASP800 over ADAT is 3 samples quicker than built in.
    These things are easy to test out how clips are placed re-recording like metronome sound or something else on timeline. Just do loopback with cable.
    But just for knowing I did this, I don't bother adjusting by nudging all these depending on inputs unless multimike something on different delays.

    I did both line input and through other gear where inputs were on different delays, so adding these later it sounded boxy already, just having different by 6 samples.
    I think a delay field for each audio track would be great addition too Cakewalk.

    I have this noted, as well as how long response delay there is for external midi gear to set negative ticks delay on midi track to make that align as rendered.

    Then if plugins introduce delays that can be turned off with toolbar button [pdc] if you don't want that delay added as tracks are played back.
    But there is usually no need to have everything playing back doing recording, so either minimize what is playing by disable tracks, or disable plugins is also alternative or turn off pdc.


  12. Just emailed support about it, referrring to bandlab account to get email set to same.
    Referred to some products I bought over the years, various synths etc.

    But i had my pwd still, anything demanding outgoing email seems shutdown somehow.
    Maybe ask to set pwd same as to bandlab account or something.

    Look in old email password reset you did before on Cakewalk account - I found one where they actually sent it directly.
    I found it, since I save all email historically since almost 15 years back I can search through.

    Maybe something like this would work.


  13. 2 hours ago, jackson white said:

    @LarsF  Thank you for your post. I was just looking at this as my first investment in Spitfire and noting the reported issues (and the size)! Also thinking the forthcoming articulation enhancements in CxB could be relevant. 

    Did you have any trouble geting it set up and installed in CxB? 

    Any observations on working with "techniques"?

    I ordered with Spitfire's excellent hdd service, just copied as instructed to local hdd first and ran install. I did not have internet then that could do that download at the time. You had to be online while doing the install, some license thing I'm sure is the reason.

    No problems at all getting it working, no contact with their support even.

     

    I've been lazy and did not work much with it, it was a 50% off offer, so I went for it. Just testing in some daws to get it scanned.

    It sounds fabulous.

    Spitfire is a bit like Waves - you always wait for a campaign of some sort, unless immediate need of course.

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  14. I am using Spitfire Eric Whitacre choir vst3 plugin which I believe is basically the same plugin as BBC orchestra.
    Difference would be amount of samples, pretty much, about 150 GB as I recall in choirs.

    I noticed no tendency to instability in Cakewalk 2020.09. Windows 7 Pro. 16 GB ram.
    Opened for all outputs in Cakewalk.

    I also turned off in group policy in windows this assistant sometime placing programs is crash group, kind of, where certain extra increased memory handling is performed. Many times this created more problems than otherwise when a program was considered crashing a lot. All software start quicker as well with this turned off. I usually had to clean registry from this crap otherwise so no special treatment is used by Windows.


  15. 2 hours ago, msmcleod said:

    The way I solved interference from other appliances was to get a pretty large online UPS. It's the kind that constantly runs off its battery and generates its own 240V sine wave. There's no physical connection to the mains, and as it always runs from the battery there's no delay on switch over if the mains is disconnected.

    All my computer & audio equipment run through the UPS. My lighting, heater & de-humidifier run directly from the mains.

    Not only did it fix the interference issues, there was a noticeable drop in noise on my equipment too.

    These things aren't cheap though, especially the more powerful ones. I was lucky and managed to get a new, but discontinued one for 1/3rd of the price. I went for a 3000VA one (2700W) in the end. You can pick them up new for around £750 (yeah, they're not cheap).

    If you do go this route, get a meter to measure just how much power you're drawing from the mains. You need to make sure the UPS is capable of delivering at least that, and if it's close to its limit you may have to power your gear on gradually to avoid an initial surge.  When measuring pick a pretty meaty project to test on so your CPU load is high, and it's using as much of the PC's power as possible. Same with your monitors/amps - make sure they're actually doing some work.  

    The meter I got is one that just plugs into the socket, so I leave it there so I can keep an eye on it.  The last thing you need is an underpowered PC - that'll cause a bunch of stability issues.

    Also, if you're running anywhere near 100% capacity, don't expect much "offline" time if your power goes... You'll only get 2-3 mins to save your project & shut down gracefully before it cuts out.

    Yes, it will help also if very unstable voltages like I had before electric company fixed that. I had tube gear that stopped all together when craftsmen worked at the farm I lived then, one drilling machine started and voltage dropped like 30V.

    So I got one of these which were way cheaper €200. 

    https://powerwalker.com/

    A VFI 1000 TG is double converter, constantly running from battery which is constantly charged too - giving perfect condition voltage. Here 230 VAC 50 Hz. For me 1000 VA was enough with good margin, having all gear running below 500W.

    Did not do anything about electric fence though, which was due to having fence 2m outside my windows then.

     

    Brian May is running a frequency converter to have constantly 234 VAC 50 Hz, which he feels give his Vox AC30 best tone, whereever he goes in the world on tour. That unit goes from 110 VAC to 240 VAC. So these are good for many things, But brand he used cost about £2000 for 1000 VA unit. It's on YT a tour on his gear. So going between continents very practical.

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  16. Electric fence I have had a lot over the years, having to tilt guitar vertically and turn sideways to a specific spot to get it down enough below -60 dBFs.
    Humbuckers are a bit easier than strat sc. I have to tilt slightly forward and search sideway for the spot. But still ok playing position, so I am alright with this.

    On Strat my wrist watch came into pickups, so had to take that off - and problem solved.
    Can you believe it - every second - again I thought this is electric fence, but no. :D

    Then the usuall hum in what direction guitar compared to amp, also tricky in that minimum hum meant more electric fence in some cases. I had to take a longer instrument cable and go out in the hallway.

    And one pedal on pedal board needed getting in second place as routed, and own power supply - or some extra noise turning a booster on even digital noise from chips inside the pedal, a steady frequency there. Some pedals need certain order, some impedance thingy as well.

    The world of electronics and computers....

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  17. Cakewalk plugin manager has path to where to expect things to be, as scanned - each plugin, which goes for mfx too, never had issues with it since 2005 doing Sonar 4.
    Damage might be when registering same dll on other place, not sure if that duplicate things in registry.

    Reset and rescan plugins is probably needed after any changes like move of plugin.

    You got off to a bad start and it just continues....


  18. The old account did not send emails to verify change - so was trapped in some limbo on account, could not login from internet anymore.
    They fixed so email on Bandlab account was synced to the old account and now working fine to download and authorize old Cakewalk products.

    Really greatful for the help, thanks guys. :)

    So a tip, don't try and change email on old Cakewalk account. You might end up in this limbo.
    I did this in 2017 - and email never came, so felt it was just disabled to do that.

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  19. As I understand it you got rid of the message doing the vcredist, or?

    Not sure why you remove vcredist stuff, where that came from - it's doing no harm.
    The x86 versions may be running 32-bit applications via WOW3264, or what it's called. A bridge windows use for WindowsOnWindows as they call it.
    I mean any other software you run that is 32-bit, may need the x86 versions of vcredist - and once installed them probably!

    vcredist is needed for when compiling some software that use common files like msvccrt or vcomp which are C-Runtime libraries and multiprocessor stuff OpenMP.
    It does no harm being there unless software is started that look for them. And takes virtually no room, just let this be there.

    New registration of mfx(or any DX based plugins) is needed if moving it, so if you documented all you did in your text - that might be a problem just moving it.
    Part of running regsvr32 is taking it's location.

    And not all clear - which error still remain for you?
    On Cakewalk level I mean, what exactly happends.
    Does plugin gui load?

    This kind of stuff is frustrating, I know. I had other things with Cubase that made me leave etc, every hour uptime of windows - Cubase restarted audio engine, and if in middle of recording that stops etc.

    When I tested, I have 1909 Windows 10 version(not running Cakewalk, just old Sonar Artist to test mfx as such). Seen people having issues with 2004 version, not in Cakewalk as such, just in general.

    Computers.....just feed us what exactly happends now to get you running.....and if possible, more than a week in between in conversation is a bit long, if possible come back every day at least and we will sort it out somehow.....

    FYI, I just moved in february back to Cakewalk from StudioOne 4.5x - because of their odd handling of midi creating automation from recorded midi at all times. In Cakewalk this is an option if you want that. Default is to let midi be as recorded.

    What happend is I turned on leslie of hammond 2 bars into a clip - StudioOne interpret this as "ok, this is first occurance of leslie on, so I intercept that as initial value of this midi and move it and send at beginning of clip instead". So leslie went on at beginning of clip instead of where I used it. This f-k up all realtime midi treating it like this. So total showstopper for me. I tweak all kinds of knobs in realtime on synths and stuff and it has to be sent when tweaked - not at beginning of clip.

    Both Cubase and Cakewalk has this as optional - converting to automation - not so in StudioOne.


  20. Which Windows release are you running, I think all these releases of Windows 10 in particular seems to create various problems, not with installer in particular just various problems?

    I installed CbB in february, updated 2020.05 and just now 2020.09 on windows 7 pro(not supported officially anymore) and had nothing funny.
    Today the Bandlab Assistant updated itself first.

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