Jonathon Barton

On 3/16/2020 at 11:23 PM, Mark Morgon-Shaw said:

I dunno..if I can play it once I can play it again ...it's not some one off performance I'll never be able to duplicate

I'm learning some of my CAPTURES by listening to them and developing them , things like this link me to the feature request for 

improved STAFF view  [notation and chord box's] that's the only way to learn from the original CAPTURE later on [and by ear] and the lyric line.

in fact, thats why I bought  Homestudio to re learn STAFF reading to help unravel my own midi recordings  ,Jon,,

On 2/27/2020 at 6:50 PM, David SG Ferringer said:

I wish there a way to mark the chords, something like this:

totally magic idea ,that sets out the chord structure for a song across all tracks..  I am not wanting a music lesson here ,although using this 

idea of yours might help me resolve many hours of confussion during heated rehearsals,[thats energy heating] when someone simply asks ,

wot chord u playing,, never answered I spoke up and paused play with ,,just tell me the notes,, then I can work it out,,,this worked for me 

as I could then work out all related notes by ear and progress to join in, point being  still never new the chords.  2nd point being ,I  thought, 

think that normally all notes are played together to make a chord,,,,, are these notes above if together hence a chord ,, and could they add 

the guitar chord box's.  working this way or as in dredded rehearsals [pure work for me keys] to no the chord is a great help, although my

other confusious is a collection of notes can have more than one chord name  pending  the song  KEY or SCALE,  so the scale is set by the root note,, um wot's the root note,, normally the resolution   da-da, anyway Confusious told me personally,,," never listen to a word I say" and once 

again totally smart clear use of sceen space gets my vote   chords is were it's at,,Jon...

if you no about those sort of things ,heres my attempt 5 or 6 years ago to help me understand what I thought 

I was looking for in hardware. I had saved a £500 pound budget to get a daw  and computer 2nd hand .I am a 

travelor with 100 watt solar needing low power equipment and thats good for street to . My 1st ever cliq on line

never turned up  an i4 1.49gb 2gb ram 10 inch tablet voyo  £350 ,now less than  £200 @12 in. I discovered the low,,low low 

power consumption in tablets ,they are big phones and have totally different processors to laptop or pc. per chance sunk my budget

into a i7 surface   as I thought ,why would any one pay 1--2 grand , and have no use for it ,,As far I think ,its only the low power

consumption thats worth anything . now looking for the daw  my fav. choices are still zoom r16 or 24 and now the L24,and the 

korg d12  this new search  has lead to a new understanding that requires a modification to the attachment drawing. 5 years ago 

looking to buy korg d12 ,as far as my spec studies could go thought it would allow me to plug in my  M1 [found on street and 2 years to

convert to 12 volt] for synth sound and so on [d 12 is not as low power as needed for winter] anyway now,,,get this 

downloading the Manuel and much study plus vidios on d12 and zoom I concluded you cannot record MIDI on DAWS

the midi is only for sync  track automation ah ah ah  so maybe you no why DAWS don't have midi sequencing ability then my ideal DAW 

is WOW   so the idea for music industry to make DEDICATED pc laptop equipment  and by by windows ,,see you when I need to call.ha.

oh the keyboard is half   1/3 finished project  midi controller  keys plugs into 61 note double strung  baby baby baby grand composit

piano  for the new  midi generations  factory gate ± £100 so say £ 250  /  300 for mass market  I used to have a yamaha cp 70

stage piano just liftable  New ee  about 35 to 40 kg   ,,must go  Jon

the answer is YES  ,to the original post ,it's GREAT, ,,I no cos it turned up in Ableton about 6 months ago ,as long as you 

are monitoring & armed it CAPTURES , I done more piano takes than ever. I thought they would turn out to be to

scrappy ,but no, just as mentioned above , always drifting off on start-up and CAPTURE seriously makes me giggle every time.

With that in mind might someone now understand my RE-SPLICE COMPTED TAKES so if you turn on and jam to a short loopy 

or drum track, ,,if captured then you need to re splice it,, its a bit different in Ableton  tho not so rok-en-roll ,,Jon 

plus I have already been wondering if Able. could add AUDIO capture,, I think it'll happen

May be have to deel with the possible large file immediately  or somethinkkkk  anyway it

works I guess for certain approaches,, I was thinking of a topic about that

WHEN YOU START WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH TO RECORDING (rock -roll) of coarse 

I sure we could all learn some supprising track-construction routs off each other,,,Jon,

On 2/19/2020 at 11:30 PM, jkoseattle said:

I'm trying to move my whole DAW system to a new Surface Pro 7. I've attached my piano via USB to the Surface Dock, and immediately got big time recordingh latency. I thought maybe it was because the piano is plugged into a Surface Dock thing, but when unplugging from the dock, playback is very latent too playing General Midi. So thankfully the Dock is not related.

I know this is an old support chestnut, but latency is so tricky, and once it's working I forget all about how to fix it because I don't need to look at it again for like years. So... what do I need to look at again here? I did change the audio driver mode to ASIO just because I remember that before. No improvement. Help!

I am on Surface i7 too,  Asio or wsapi ( that one) do work ,in asio close all connections you are not using ,

turn the slider to zero ,let it settle ,10 sec. and try, then raise  one step at a time, note each improvement

you should be on zero with one midi signal,,

On 2/20/2020 at 8:21 AM, Chappel said:

You can use the 'Bounce to Clip' feature to join multiple clips into one clip.

any clear reply to this would help me too,, bounce to clip is correct ,tho, this I find only splices

selected parts of  your clips all only working within the loop region ,,re my post RE SPLICE  THE CLIPS,

and this origin post ,I think want to re-splice the clips into a single long track lane ,as this type of clip 

recording has a different purpose,, to create a fast single song take  (verse's chorus mid breaks ++)with

usefull pre made clips related to whatever the loop pattern was . then begin song arrangment

referencing that live  take or "jam".. Jon,,

point being FAST  is as A above the loop you are playing or jamming to ,,regularly gets changed,

so it gets booooring loading and trying loops each time having to copy out screen and loop, to an,

as  yet ,,unknown song length ,,Jon...

9 hours ago, Starise said:

Maybe this already exists and I have not seen it or don't know how to use it.. A clip "re join" feature.  Both audio and midi. Maybe save an original file as non destructive. The split line goes away as if it never existed.

So many times I am adding something to a clip and don't realize or forget there are multiple clips  or want to treat all clips in the track the same, so I need to go back and add whatever it is to all of them individually. The other benefit to this is once "joined" as a whole the clip can be moved around as a whole if need be.

Another nice feature would be to select "save spare midi track" when freezing an audio track. I would prefer to see this as nested under that track and not located in another folder somewhere. This way you could export an audio mix and still have all midi in the same project without necessity to unfreeze to use it.

I think this is similar to my re quest  RE-SPLICE COMPED CLIPS .... Oh,,     like the original non destuctive bit,

PLUS .. a tiny idea for staff view  ,,   just readable ,   if -u- pinch-out ..  Jon,,

thanks to the staff ,,, so  good to find  app data STUFF and ID it ,, tho,,with all Good intentions  saving those files

 and remembering months latter  is clutter ,although  maybe try and save that PREFERENCE setting  thats been 

working for months ,, that  even more unlikely,, any one no how quick copy paste to feature request,, Ableton  as

mentioned,, had  "absolute mouse control " issue that required  a command prompt  that worked  After much

cliqin.  only to be sorted in updates  a month latter  ,point is ±20 hours bandlab ± 1 hour sorting preferences

um  10 or 15 minuets playin  ,,  how  do u identify those appdata files  ,,,,must no a thing or too,  Jon,,,, slow

progress   journey towards an arrangement.

it seems there are and will be many issues regarding preferences that are complex any will need to vary 

pending song structures and hardware setups  to note  Ableton  preferences update no-the-fly ,,I think its called

live-time  it helps a lot ,,then Ableton  is relatively new programm  ,,so I think  Bandlab is trapped  in old preference

programming that's not so easy to change  so  a suggestion is maybe  be able to   SAVE  preference settings as template

 and or related to a song file  ,,surely easier than  rewriting   preference  so as to be up dating in real time

and  possibly more useful    Jon...

I hope I,m not in breach of rules ,spent 20 years talking to myself, so I thought let,s keep this going by replying to myself 

with the current state of Jon,s comp recording ,,So as to try and get a  ± 70 bar live track recorded using   using  tempory

preset loops in comp mode and in a readable screen size without scrolling page ,,I  >> load loop >>  copy drag ± 10 to 12 bars

>> set loop brace >> cliq record button  in template voc / guitar  song  as soon as things start to happen .....>> stop   rewind

 Now  ,,,if  my head says  all should be OK   I only have  ± 6 to 8 clips to  re-splice ,,, this is working for me  and I am currently

working on 2  song s like this ,, the next task being ,,,probably to try some live drum takes  to the original re-spliced tracks

and so on,,,  a bit  slow and   data,, I have just found Q&A   that might be a better place for this   tho I could not find it in  sonar

homestudio manuel ,,,so   keep going  with RE-SPLICE COMPS till the ±70 bars sound like my  2  & 4 bar bittts,, Jon     🚍 .

I spent 2-3 years sorting my  ON -THE -ROAD system out ,the key bit for  me  was low power consumption working with

100 watt solar in winter low light (summers no problem) I wanted a DAW to start with ,then add computer software latter.

Unable to find a DAW  with midi requirements I got a simple i3 tablet (£140) to get started and free Ableton  ,looking then

@ Sonar  ± £ 47 for low income users as well with the staff view.  3 melted tablets latter a £60   i7 laptop showed me the 

reel difference i3 to i7 , but also the power consumption  of laptop was not workable in winter .This took me a long time ..

..........the tablets in short are mostly large screen phones ,,,,the laptops are compact PC's..they are 2 completely different 

PROCESSOR families and subsequently totally different power consumption  (if -u-a,v-time ) see WIKI processor spec,s..

the ANSWER is i7  tablets @  crazy money  tho my subsequent i7 ,,8gb ram SURFACE @£ 500 does the job   2 hours

usually minimum even on a DULL English  day  ,,,,,,,to note ,,,,budget all spent the DAW does not seem to exist  just to add

I  finally realised what it is,,  DAW,s ,, err um,, do not record midi ,, some of them have  midi  to run there automation ,,,After much

research I realised thats the only thing the computer software does ,,so now await and ask for audio and midi recording DAWs

to STAND ALONE as they say ,,,,, with built in complete software (sonar/band /lab) and a large screen ,like laptops,,i7 low power

  and a USB  tea's maid ,,ha ha,,,so I ,,WE don't have to battle with O.S. .. anymore ,,.Jon        see IDEAL DAW drawn years ago 

My first forum um, as title ,when warming ,say, guitar , into a shout drum loop ,sounds OK ,

so cliq record (in comp mode), and end up with usefull  CLIPS ,then invariably  want

to re-splice all the CLIPS ,back to a single track keeping the  CLIPS  as well.,,,,then sort out arrangments

as usually created by that  1st track

To note ,this I dont think is lazzy,, the point for me is trying simply loop tracks,,I think of them as

tech metronomes ,and if I get INTO it,,man u-no,,then just cliq rec.  (with my modified mouse footswitch) or try other loops or drum 

patterns,, there is an option to drag (great function) the rythem loop out to my default 70-72 bars,

tho if I do ,that loop invariably gets changed,, and changed ,so , feature request ,possible right  cliq CLIP-LANES

button to  RE-SPLICE  CLIPS , saves a lot of drag-in.   Jon.

I carry-on this request with a small example,that shows how many copy,paste, so as to then FLATTEN . I,m

not sure ,I think your programming in for capturing the best takes, I haven,t got that far yet ,it is my 6 year 

attempt to CREATE a song arrangment from ONE LIVE TAKE (with errours) then construct to that,.I spend

hours playing git to loops and have never had recording edit that can keep the git-track and then create 

drums, bass  and so-on to that track .Sonar (bandlab) is right there for me except for the Re-splice of 20--140  CLIPS

I considered this to be quite normalish way of writing and constructing ,the inspired initial track in clock sync 

so then anythings possible.. I must just say it,s great listening to the single  CLIPS,, EVERY-ONES-A-LOOPY!!! Jon

If this seems to get some response ,I want to try something like ,Does Bandlab have a overview objective as a recording software, mine is

still to record Rok-en Roll, mostly from live instruments and edit either for live band rehearsals or finished songs, Jon