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Yeah … this thing looks really cool. Thanks abacab. Even the default 808 sounds seem really usable. I appreciate the lead. Yes, scook, I think the Toms are different in the dark lord program. This kind of electric drums are perfect for what I do, I’m thinking more like Genesis and Peter Gabriel than I am Dr Dre or something along those lines.

Great info. I appreciate it very much. Shouldn’t be too hard to find something that plays back these samples then. But if nothing else I’m relieved to know they are just TR808 sounds. It should be pretty easy to find something that will give me that. Heck, I might even already have an Addictive drums pack that has them. For some reason I thought these samples were from something more obscure like a Roland CR-78. It’s just very simple electronic drum sounds that sit in a mix really well and aren’t overly hyped. Perfect for what I do. Thanks again.

Thanks Scook. I do have all that. I was just looking at my old laptop that I did this music on, and in the system folder there is some files with the correct name, however it’s not loose samples in there. There’s the two kits: DarkLordOfTheSeth_Kit1 and DarkLordOfTheSeth_Kit2, but they have the file ending .prog … I’m assuming that’s some kind of Session Drummer 3 native program format. I’m thinking that’s useless without the actual plug-in installed. Not sure about that. I wonder if Addictive Drums ( what I’m running now for drums ) would know what to do with it? But yeah, I hopefully can do a partial install of Sonar and just only install Session Drummer 3? Never done that before, but worth a try. I believe what stopped me before was, I don’t think it was ever released in 64 bit and that’s what I’m running now. Unless you know how to find the loose samples?

Greetings. There used to a very cool “drum kit” that came stock with Session Drummer 2 & 3 back when our DAW was still called Sonar that was samples of an awesome drum machine … I think. It was called “Dark Lord of the Seth.” I loved the sound of this kit but now I can’t seem to find anything like it. I was wondering if any of you electronic drum gurus might happen to know what drum machine was used for those samples? That way maybe I can find something similar. I need those sounds back. Loved the kick, snare and hi hat. If not, could somebody recommend something with comparable sounds? Just for a refresher of the sounds, here’s a song I did using it from many years ago. You can really hear it during the breakdown at the 1:48 mark of the video below. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Y1NLsfvt4

Alt-Z! Alt-Z is the universal command to return your screen to the previous zoom setting ... NOT Ctrl-Z! Big Difference. I was in Melodyne editing some vocals ... my vocal is busted up into nicely digestible chunks so I can get in and out of Melodyne ... then I started to build up a little confidence ... so I tried editing a giant clip all at once. Must've been an entire verse worth of vocals ... I got all the way to the end of the last little phrase ... there was just one thing left to do ... zoom out and give all my hard work one final look see. That's when it happened ... I had zoomed in on a particular bit, and to return to my previous zoom setting, I sub-consciously hit Ctrl-Z instead of Alt-Z ... POOF ... instantly all my hard, but unsaved work was gone in a jiffy. You don't get any sort of nice, elegant, popup dialogue asking you if you "really want to abandon the session?" The editor window just disappears and you are returned to your track the way it was before any editing. Lol. Apparently hitting Ctrl-Z in Melodyne is the shortcut for abort! Krikey ... you gotta watch that ...

I've always hope someone would do something like this. Cheers mate. I know you did a great MIDI tutorial already ... thanks ... how's about one for more advanced MIDI editing? The other day I was trying to draw in and then edit controller wheel data and not really ever accomplishing anything. How can we take charge of this MIDI data ... draw in precise wheel bends and other controllers, etc.

Well shoot ... if any developers are within earshot and wanna make some of us old farts happy ... Some of us are still chasing these age old fantasies, however convoluted they may be.

I was pondering the suggestion that we should have a tape speed knob in the pro channel of CbB ... that would be awesome. But now that I think about it, it might also be next to impossible to get it to work like in the real world. Think of all the additional tracks of audio that would come into play if you were near the end of your project before engaging the varispeed knob. Our computers these days are powerful sure, but that might be an unreasonable load to place on your CPU. Until then, we have this great workaround.

I see what you did there Jesse. Lol. Thanks for the encouragement.

Great reverb plugin from Arturia is free until December 31. Hurry ... this thing is awesome. https://www.arturia.com/reverb-gift

Thanks Doug. Blessings.

I really appreciate the encouragement. Thanks. It's funny about that horn part ... the original (see link) has the great horn parts ... and my original aim was to recreate that as close as possible. I have Arturia's excellent V Collection. That has the Synclavier ... I'm using trumpet samples to play the horn parts just until I could find a more realistic horn sound ... and then I kinda got to liking it that way. Sure, it doesn't sound like horns ... it sounds like a keyboard, almost a harmonica sound or something ... anyway, I just kinda liked it the way it was. But reading your comments I can gather that to others it just sounds like cheesy horns ... hmmm ... I'll have to play with those patches a bit. Elsewhere, yeah, I'm definitely going for that burnished, dark, mono drum sound that you used to hear on all the records I loved growing up. I'm not into ringing cymbals and boomy, tubby tom sounds. I did leave some room on the drums in BFD since the song has that live feel, but nothing too crazy.

Thanks Craig! Sounds very cool. I heard no artifacts ... that's for sure. The chipmunks thing was hilarious. I think the process to do the original task now for me would be to bounce just the chorus section of my song to a WAV, then open that in a new session. Pitch transpose it like you just showed, sing my high vocal part. Then pitch everything back to the correct tempo and export just the harmony parts to my original session. This would allow me to not only hit the notes, but also have a slightly different vocal timbre for the harmonies. Can't wait to try it. Thanks for the great demo Craig.

Awesome

Nice job.

Sounds great. Love your playing.

I can hear a Yes influence ... in a good way. Very nicely done.

First tune finished entirely in CbB. I'm really enjoying CbB. At least on my system, it just seems to run smoother than past versions of Sonar. Anyway, here's a cover of a song from the soundtrack to Shaft that I always loved. Been using covers lately just to have material to record so I can focus more on the engineering and production of the music, and learn about making these recordings hopefully sound better than just demos. I'm especially happy with the guitar stuff I did over the outro ... the fuzz kicks in around 2:44 ... me likey the fuzz ... How's the vocals volume? Too much effects? In my car the vocals sound a bit lost in the stew ... hmmm ... sounds good in earphones ... http://www.savagepixels.com/audio/scott-c_do-your-thing.mp3

I got a song in process that I'm going to try this on ... Anybody got any sound clips they are willing to share?

Great link. Thanks

Where did you configure this preference to leave you hardware drivers alone?

Whatever that producer Jaime Liddel is using in that ProTools video I posted at the top of this thread, that's what I want. Took him 5 minutes in a live demonstration to layer vocals. I was gonna say he made it look like a cakewalk, but I was forgetting where I was.

Thanks Promidi

Or, you could arm the varispeed knob for automation.

Yes. I had just installed it in order to use Melodyne. Melodyne was not working in Sonar X3 and their tech team prevailed upon me to finally install CbB. So, it's a month old install. Also, yes to your question about Melodyne Assistant. It's all brand new. Just upgraded to Assistant for $49. They had a special. This all just happened. Everything was working smoothly. I shut down windows and noticed that instead of just "Shut Down", it said "Update and Shutdown" ... I had no choice but to update Win 10 Pro. A couple days later is when I noticed that Region Effects are now crashing my system. Celemony's tech team is telling me to uninstall Melodyne, download again and reinstall. I guess that's as good of a place to start as anywhere.