Apeirofobia

This is beautiful.

I also think this is a strange behaviour. When you solo the drum track, the piano gets muted, but when you solo the piano track, the drums are still sent to the drum bus.  Why the drums aren't muted when you solo the piano track?

Hi Folks

is it possible to open only one midi clip in the Piano Roll View? Everytime I open a clip, it displays the whole track and sometimes it's very confusing when you want to edit only a small detail.

3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

This is caused by a bug in the latest Softube plugins with prochannel modules, that is causing a crash on scanning which ends up leading to this issue. It has been reported to the Softube team and they are aware of it. 

I've changed our VstScanner to work around the crash which should at least prevent the issue that you have in the video. However the prochannel module won't be available just the normal VST. If you wish you can download the updated scanner and copy it to the C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities folder.

After you rescan your plugins it should fix this issue. The wrong plugin getting inserted is simply a side effect of the main issue.

 

Wow, thank you so much. This fixed the problem!

5 hours ago, Craig Anderton said:

If you haven't already, try a plug-in Reset and Re-Scan...that sometimes solves mysterious plug-in issues.

Yep, I've already tried that and it didn't solve the problem.

Hi guys I just updated my softube plugins and all my plugins inserted in my projects have wrong names. And when I insert new plugins, I get the same name.

Any idea what's going on?

Here's a video of the behaviour.  Every plugin has the same name(TSAR-1R) in all my projects.

Thanks!

I think it's really a bug in Cakewalk. I've had the same problems, everytime I solo a bus the sidechain effects stop working.  I made a topic months ago for this same reason.  https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/22668-sidechain-not-working/ 

Hi

It would be cool if Cakewalk would display on the PRV only the selected midi clips, because its confusing when you select a clip and the PRV shows you the whole track.

It's a simple but important feature.

great videos!

The link is not working

11 hours ago, tonemangler said:

Yes, to audition the whole drum kit, bass and effect return you would have to customize your project.  Firstly, as mentioned previously, you would group all bass tracks.  Next group all drum tracks.  It is easier to use track folders for this but I see you work in the console view which I believe you does not support folders.  The next step depends on if you have a lot of busses.  Create a new buss, call it something like 'Pre Mix'.  Send all busses except for bass, drums and effects to this buss and set it's output to the Mix buss.  Now, if you want to audition the kick and bass you press Ctrl and click the kick track (this solos only the kick) and then click any bass track.  Next to hear all drums and bass, first you Ctrl click the kick track (to un-solo it) and then click on any drum track.  Next you want to hear drums, bass and effects, leave the bass and drum tracks soloed and simply mute the 'Pre Mix' buss.   If you don't have a lot of busses you don't need to create the 'Pre Mix' buss just mute all busses except for drum, bass and effects. I hope this works for you.

Thank you so much for your time and effort. Im trying this method, and it's working when I mute the rest of the band in the "pre-mix" bus. It's a strange behaviour but it's working.

Thanks again!

On 12/4/2020 at 9:16 PM, tonemangler said:

In your example, simply group the solo buttons of the DI Bass and Mic Bass tracks. Set the send of the Kick to Pre Fader.  Now you can solo the grouped Bass tracks (not the buss) and the compressor will work. In my case I only work in track view so it is easy to make a Folder for all the bass elements and use the folder solo button.  I agree that sending a pre-fader sidechain signal from a Track to a compressor on a Buss should result in the expected behaviour,  but this is either a bug  or a quirk.

I tried this, but it only works if I want to solo the kick and bass. This means I have to solo every drum track if I want to hear the bass in the context of the drums? Aside from the impossibility to hear the buses processing, as reverb, compression, etc

Edit: Today I tried creating buses for every drum piece instead of aux tracks, and then I inserted the compressor on them so I could only work with buses, but then again, when I solo the Drum kit and the bass, the compressor stops working, there's no input.

4 hours ago, tonemangler said:

It is rather quirky the way CbB handles soloing for busses and aux tracks.  Sidechaining works best when using regular tracks, if you want to hear the effect when soloing  make sure you set the send feeding the compressor to pre-fader.  Soloing on busses acts differently to tracks.  For example if you have a bass buss and solo it you will hear all the bass tracks feeding that buss, but as soon as you solo a track not feeding the bass buss, for example the kick track, you will no longer hear the bass buss, even though it remains soloed.  This is because as soon as you solo the kick all the bass tracks are muted.  Furthermore, you won't hear the kick either because the Bass Buss remaining soloed mutes the Drum Buss!  If you put a compressor on a buss and feed it's sidechain from a track you need to solo the tracks not the busses to engage the effect.

In your example, simply group the solo buttons of the DI Bass and Mic Bass tracks. Set the send of the Kick to Pre Fader.  Now you can solo the grouped Bass tracks (not the buss) and the compressor will work. In my case I only work in track view so it is easy to make a Folder for all the bass elements and use the folder solo button.  I agree that sending a pre-fader sidechain signal from a Track to a compressor on a Buss should result in the expected behaviour,  but this is either a bug  or a quirk.

Another way is to create an Aux track for the bass elements and put the compressor on there.  However you would need to set the kick send to pre-fader, solo it, and then turn it's volume all the way down in order to hear the effect when soloing the Bass Aux Track.  So definitely not the best solution.  Cheers

Thank you so much for your detailed response. I tried to set the send as pre-fader and I had the same exact results.  Whenever I try to solo their respective buses the compressor stops working.

But I haven't tried to group the tracks. That will be my next option. 

Thank you again!

Here are two videos, one inserting the compressor on the bus, and the other one compressing the aux tracks. In both, the compressor stops working everytime I solo their buses.  (Sorry for the quality) Whe I disable all solo, it works just fine.

Compressor on bus

Compressor on the aux tracks

3 hours ago, Leonardo Bisaro said:

Hi Apeirofobia
I'm locking for a solution for the same issue.
Sidechain signal work only when I disable all SOLO 

Please, tell me if you can solve, and I'll do the same!

Good luck!

I haven't found a solution. I emailed the cakewalk support this weekend but there are still no answers.

3 hours ago, scook said:

One solution is use aux tracks as buses.

Make sure the sends feeding the sidechain inputs on the FX in aux track are pre-fader.

That was the first thing I did, but even when I insert the compressor on aux tracks, and then I solo their respective buses, the compressor stops working.

Testing again, I discovered a strange behaviour. I have 2 buses (one for the drums, and another one for the bass(DI and Mic tracks). I added a compressor to the bass bus(and tried with the individual tracks too) with an input from the kick, and the problem starts when I solo the bass and drums buses. When I disable the soloing of the buses, it recognizes the input from the kick. Is it normal?

I mean, when I solo the drumand bass buses, their individual tracks should be recognized by the compressor, right? If the tracks are routed to the right bus...

1 minute ago, Promidi said:

You might want to start a new thread.

Also, when you do, can you give some more information about your set up.

Thanks, I Started a new Thread. I will add more info about my set up.

3 minutes ago, Promidi said:

When you say "drivers are up to date", how exactly have you verified that?

I checked the latest version in the Focusrite web. I have a Scarlett 18i20.

Hi guys. 

I've seen another topic with the same issue but there was no solution.

The trouble is that in some projects the sidechain function is not working. I send my signal to some compressor(Any plugin, not just Sonitus) and theres no input. I open a new project and the sidechain works fine. But right now I'm working on a project which is almost finished so it would be a disgrace to start a new project. 

Any ideas about how could I fix this?

Edit: I use a Scarlett 18i20 (Third gen) and Windows 10.  The drivers are up to date.

Thanks in advance!

Edit: this behaviour was solved in the last update

I'm having the same trouble and  the drivers are up to date.

Any advice?

Great!

It looks cool. Any update?

14 hours ago, scook said:

CbB always records the signal at a track's input. Any time one wants to record a signal affected by plug-ins, the track containing the plug-ins needs to be routed to an aux track or another track using a patch point. The wet signal may be record in this track.

Try this,,,

1. Add Sonitus Gate in the FX rack on the mic track

2. Click the Audio button on the Sonitus UI changing it to Duck

3. Enable input echo on the mic track

4. Route the mic track output to a new aux track

5. Record enable the aux track

6. Create a send on the music track to the Sonitus:fx Gate (Side Input)

7. Enable input echo on the music track

 

Now any time signal hits the music track, the aux track will be muted.

Anytime this method of recording a wet signal is used, it is a good idea to record the dry track too, just in case.

May need to experiment with the hold and release times to make sure the gate does not open with quite parts of the music.

 

 

That's a great idea, to use an aux track. I will check it out.

Thank you so much!

13 hours ago, John Vere said:

This is why I like to use a small mixer when doing things like screen captures. I have real controls and can balance levels on the fly as I record. 

 

Yep. That would be the best option, but cant afford one right now.

Thank you anyways!