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Apeirofobia

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  1. Hi Folks

    is it possible to open only one midi clip in the Piano Roll View? Everytime I open a clip, it displays the whole track and sometimes it's very confusing when you want to edit only a small detail.

  2. 5 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

    I understand your use case perfectly. Its just very tricky to handle the routing to solo it...
    I have implemented some logic that seems to be working but it would require some regression testing. I can send you a build to try later.

    As for attaching a project, the easiest way is to save a small bundle file and attach it. Otherwise you will have to zip the entire project folder.

     

    Thanks! would it be useful if I attach the same project I showed in the video? Because right now I'm not working in any project. I made this video only to help in this update showing this particular issue I've had in the past. 

  3. 2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

    While this might look simple on the surface, its not that surprising that this scenario doesn't work.  The dependency graph logic for bus solo is extremely complex and corner cases have to be specifically programmed esp in more complicated routing scenarios. I'll try and explain.

    There are two independent solo "groups" for Buses and tracks that can be independently manipulated. When you solo a bus it figures out all of its upstream and downstream circuit dependencies and makes these audible in the signal flow.  Similarly when you solo tracks or aux tracks. However these solo groups are independent. 

    In your scenario since you soloed the kick and bass buses, it figured out that it should make the corresponding aux tracks audible as well as their dependencies which are the bass and kick tracks. However the sidechain is an internal send from the kick aux track to the bass track aux. Since you only soloed buses and nothing is soloed in the track solo group, the intra track send is not evaluated and therefore the send is silenced. If you solo the kick aux track containing the compressor this will work. Also, if you worked exclusively with aux tracks it would also work.

    I'll have a look and see if if I can make the bus solo dependency figure out the intra track sends. Without breaking anything else!

    I suggest attaching a simple project for the issue since the routing can be very specific and there are thousands of permutations.

    Thank you so much for your response. In fact when I soloed the buses and the bass track that contains the compressor, the input worked fine. But sometimes you have a few of this sidechain processes in a project and it would be tedious to solo the buses and the aux tracks everytime you want to hear the effects in the context of some instruments.

    In my particular case the ideal situation would be to be able to hear the sidechain compression with the whole drumkit soloed, so if I worked only with the aux tracks I will have to solo every drum part individually.

    By the way I don't know how to attach a cakewalk project. How could you open it? I would have to attach the wav files too? 

  4. 1 hour ago, Apeirofobia said:

    I thought this issue was solved too. But I'm still having  troubles with sidechaining in a similar situation.

    Here I'll explain a signal flow I usually use, step by step:

    1)I have two mics of the kick(in and out), then I send these two signals to a Kick Aux Track.

    2)I also have 2 tracks for the bass (mic and DI) and I also send them to a Bass Aux Track.

    3)I compress the bass aux track with the input from the kick aux track.

    4)Then I create a bus for the whole drumkit, and I send this Kick Aux track to the Drum bus.

    5)I create a Bass Buss, and I send the bass aux track to this bus so I can manage all the instruments only from the buses section.

    6)And when I solo these buses(bass and drumkit) , the sidechain compression stops working.

     

    I would expect that when I solo a bus, all their respective signals should be soloed too.

     

     Here's an example of my issue. I deleted all the other instruments, so it would be simpler to see the details.

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  5. 3 hours ago, spiffo said:

    Hi, I thought this might resolve the rather strange Side Chaining effect I get but alas no.

    Typically  I setup a Compressor on a Bass Track then feed it's Side Chain Input from a Send on the Kick Drum, pretty typical I think?

    I f I SOLO the Bass Track and the Kick Drum Track then the Sidechaining works. But if I instead SOLO the Drum Bus and the Bass Bus that those Tracks are routed to then the Side Chaining stops working!

    Is this a Bug or am I not understanding something?

    I thought this issue was solved too. But I'm still having  troubles with sidechaining in a similar situation.

    Here I'll explain a signal flow I usually use, step by step:

    1)I have two mics of the kick(in and out), then I send these two signals to a Kick Aux Track.

    2)I also have 2 tracks for the bass (mic and DI) and I also send them to a Bass Aux Track.

    3)I compress the bass aux track with the input from the kick aux track.

    4)Then I create a bus for the whole drumkit, and I send this Kick Aux track to the Drum bus.

    5)I create a Bass Buss, and I send the bass aux track to this bus so I can manage all the instruments only from the buses section.

    6)And when I solo these buses(bass and drumkit) , the sidechain compression stops working.

     

    I would expect that when I solo a bus, all their respective signals should be soloed too.

     

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  6. 3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

    This is caused by a bug in the latest Softube plugins with prochannel modules, that is causing a crash on scanning which ends up leading to this issue. It has been reported to the Softube team and they are aware of it. 

    I've changed our VstScanner to work around the crash which should at least prevent the issue that you have in the video. However the prochannel module won't be available just the normal VST. If you wish you can download the updated scanner and copy it to the C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities folder.

    After you rescan your plugins it should fix this issue. The wrong plugin getting inserted is simply a side effect of the main issue.

     

    Wow, thank you so much. This fixed the problem!

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  7. Hi guys I just updated my softube plugins and all my plugins inserted in my projects have wrong names. And when I insert new plugins, I get the same name.

    Any idea what's going on?

     

    Here's a video of the behaviour.  Every plugin has the same name(TSAR-1R) in all my projects.

     

  8. 3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

    It doesn’t work the same way with buses. For a bus sidechain to be heard you have to solo both the recipient bus and the sending bus.
     

    Thanks for your reply! That's exactly what I do, I solo both buses (the drum and bass buses in my case) but there's still no input in the compressor. 

  9. Hi guys, I have one question about this topic :

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    Improved handling of aux tracks and sidechains when exporting or soloing tracks

    When exporting with source category Tracks, sidechain or aux track sends or outputs are now properly included in the export for the track containing the sidechain.  The same applies to aux tracks. 

    When soloing a track that contains a sidechain plugin, any sends from other tracks in the project are now automatically included, similarly to how it behaves with sends to aux tracks.

    This behaviour should be valid for buses too, right?

    I was wondering this, because when I have 2 buses that contain sidechained tracks (ex: 1 bus with the drum tracks, and another bus with 2 bass tracks, mic and DI) and I solo these buses, the sidechain compression effect between the bass and  the kick drum  is lost (the input in the compressor  dissapears). I don't know if this is a normal behaviour, and if it is, how could I listen to the sidechain compression when I solo buses?

     

    Thanks in advance

  10. Hi

    It would be cool if Cakewalk would display on the PRV only the selected midi clips, because its confusing when you select a clip and the PRV shows you the whole track.

    It's a simple but important feature.

  11. 11 hours ago, tonemangler said:

    Yes, to audition the whole drum kit, bass and effect return you would have to customize your project.  Firstly, as mentioned previously, you would group all bass tracks.  Next group all drum tracks.  It is easier to use track folders for this but I see you work in the console view which I believe you does not support folders.  The next step depends on if you have a lot of busses.  Create a new buss, call it something like 'Pre Mix'.  Send all busses except for bass, drums and effects to this buss and set it's output to the Mix buss.  Now, if you want to audition the kick and bass you press Ctrl and click the kick track (this solos only the kick) and then click any bass track.  Next to hear all drums and bass, first you Ctrl click the kick track (to un-solo it) and then click on any drum track.  Next you want to hear drums, bass and effects, leave the bass and drum tracks soloed and simply mute the 'Pre Mix' buss.   If you don't have a lot of busses you don't need to create the 'Pre Mix' buss just mute all busses except for drum, bass and effects. I hope this works for you.

    Thank you so much for your time and effort. Im trying this method, and it's working when I mute the rest of the band in the "pre-mix" bus. It's a strange behaviour but it's working.

    Thanks again!

  12. On 12/4/2020 at 9:16 PM, tonemangler said:

    In your example, simply group the solo buttons of the DI Bass and Mic Bass tracks. Set the send of the Kick to Pre Fader.  Now you can solo the grouped Bass tracks (not the buss) and the compressor will work. In my case I only work in track view so it is easy to make a Folder for all the bass elements and use the folder solo button.  I agree that sending a pre-fader sidechain signal from a Track to a compressor on a Buss should result in the expected behaviour,  but this is either a bug  or a quirk.

    I tried this, but it only works if I want to solo the kick and bass. This means I have to solo every drum track if I want to hear the bass in the context of the drums? Aside from the impossibility to hear the buses processing, as reverb, compression, etc

     

    Edit: Today I tried creating buses for every drum piece instead of aux tracks, and then I inserted the compressor on them so I could only work with buses, but then again, when I solo the Drum kit and the bass, the compressor stops working, there's no input.

  13. 4 hours ago, tonemangler said:

    It is rather quirky the way CbB handles soloing for busses and aux tracks.  Sidechaining works best when using regular tracks, if you want to hear the effect when soloing  make sure you set the send feeding the compressor to pre-fader.  Soloing on busses acts differently to tracks.  For example if you have a bass buss and solo it you will hear all the bass tracks feeding that buss, but as soon as you solo a track not feeding the bass buss, for example the kick track, you will no longer hear the bass buss, even though it remains soloed.  This is because as soon as you solo the kick all the bass tracks are muted.  Furthermore, you won't hear the kick either because the Bass Buss remaining soloed mutes the Drum Buss!  If you put a compressor on a buss and feed it's sidechain from a track you need to solo the tracks not the busses to engage the effect.

    In your example, simply group the solo buttons of the DI Bass and Mic Bass tracks. Set the send of the Kick to Pre Fader.  Now you can solo the grouped Bass tracks (not the buss) and the compressor will work. In my case I only work in track view so it is easy to make a Folder for all the bass elements and use the folder solo button.  I agree that sending a pre-fader sidechain signal from a Track to a compressor on a Buss should result in the expected behaviour,  but this is either a bug  or a quirk.

    Another way is to create an Aux track for the bass elements and put the compressor on there.  However you would need to set the kick send to pre-fader, solo it, and then turn it's volume all the way down in order to hear the effect when soloing the Bass Aux Track.  So definitely not the best solution.  Cheers

    Thank you so much for your detailed response. I tried to set the send as pre-fader and I had the same exact results.  Whenever I try to solo their respective buses the compressor stops working.

    But I haven't tried to group the tracks. That will be my next option. 

    Thank you again!

  14. Here are two videos, one inserting the compressor on the bus, and the other one compressing the aux tracks. In both, the compressor stops working everytime I solo their buses.  (Sorry for the quality) Whe I disable all solo, it works just fine.

     

    Compressor on bus

     

    Compressor on the aux tracks

     

  15. 3 hours ago, Leonardo Bisaro said:

    Hi Apeirofobia
    I'm locking for a solution for the same issue.
    Sidechain signal work only when I disable all SOLO 

    Please, tell me if you can solve, and I'll do the same!

    Good luck!

    I haven't found a solution. I emailed the cakewalk support this weekend but there are still no answers.

     

    3 hours ago, scook said:

    One solution is use aux tracks as buses.

    Make sure the sends feeding the sidechain inputs on the FX in aux track are pre-fader.

    That was the first thing I did, but even when I insert the compressor on aux tracks, and then I solo their respective buses, the compressor stops working.

  16. Testing again, I discovered a strange behaviour. I have 2 buses (one for the drums, and another one for the bass(DI and Mic tracks). I added a compressor to the bass bus(and tried with the individual tracks too) with an input from the kick, and the problem starts when I solo the bass and drums buses. When I disable the soloing of the buses, it recognizes the input from the kick. Is it normal?

    I mean, when I solo the drumand bass buses, their individual tracks should be recognized by the compressor, right? If the tracks are routed to the right bus...

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