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  1. Sal Sorice, you 100% right. I used latencymon. I been so frustrated I was to buy the pro one. I used Cakewalk DOS, when I built my first IBM compatible computer. I connected my Yamaha PSR-500, midi controller, (had a few), Used channel 8 on my Fostex A8 to synchronize my audio tracks with my midi tracks and never had a problem. When Cakewalk added audio tracks, I added (1) then (2)  M- Audio Delta 1010LT cards to give me 16 audio channels. It worked good until Windows 10.  After that I bought the Motu 24AO. I switched from Cyrix to AMD and finally bought an Intel processor board, all these years, trying to keep up, because I could use 8 memory slots, with Cakewalk. When Cakewalk decide to hang it up. I was having problems with some simple features I never had before. If I pasted loops, sometimes after a certain time, the timing would paste, all zero instead of quarter notes etc. They 'd fix it, then on the next update, the error would return. So I had to find a new DAW and Personus gave us CW users a great discount. It was hard for me to copy all the tracks. Today I have over 900 plug-ins, which over the last few months I took photos of audio effect ones, printed put them in a binder to remember what I have and how they work, by looking on YouTube. I think two things I did not like with Personus. I don't have the latest since Cakewalk came back. I couldn't put it on two video monitors, or really stretch the mixer board out? Plus, I can't get XLN Addictive Drum2 to load. On my latest tracks, people like the Modo drums by IK Media. I then bought the Studio One DAW, because there was a website no longer in existence (Mix The Music) and for $9.99 you could get original multitrack stems for your own personnel mixing. Later, since I use Magix video software I tried using their DAW. It was pretty good until I tried comp tracks, the software and audio went crazy. During all these last years I upgraded to an AMD 5950X CPU from a 3950X. I was thinking about going Threadripper, because the new boards needed DDR5. also. The 7950X was lower than twice the speed. Not worth the upgrade. I've changed to 4 Nvme drives, and 4 SSD drives. One of the first problems I had, while I was running Cakewalk, the old SATA drives had auto-config on, and when it started, it would go to 100% and use up all the memory. But at least I could see what the hog was and correct and later replace them. Cortana was disabled, and didn't show up as being used. Thought I had a overheat problem, always 4+ minutes of playback. But having a calmer head tells you, heat problems don't cool off by themselves. Now I can't wait for the new Cakewalk. I have my Motu 24AO with 3 ADATS, so I can get 32 channels out to the mixer, 8 to the computer, for 40 total out, and 8 in. Latencymon, said my computer could handle anything when running on it's own, until I started Cakewalk and it crashed. I'm one very happy and confident person about my DAW. I'm afraid of updating to the next Windows updates.        

     

  2. In 2019 got the fastest processor then, the 3900X. It worked great, then later Cakewalk started messing up. For months I started changing everything else, upgraded to a 5950X. Same problems. Everything I tried worked for a day. The last couple of months, while playing back a song, it didn't matter if I had a recording of mixed Audio and Midi of 4 tracks or +20. The CPU threads would start spiking at 4:04 minutes of playback, slow down for a few seconds, making noise, or just stopping no matter where you started playback on a song. Every time I tried something new, remove a virus program, it worked for a day or two then act up again. Normally my CPU with maximum channels with 3-4 effects, audio and or Midi, the CPU use was at 3-11%, and 128GB of RAM memory at only 16% usage. Hard drives are a mixture of SSD and NMVe, showing no or little visual activity. 
    A few days ago. I finally ran a latency audio tester. The final results were that my computer had no problems and could practically run anything. I then ran Cakewalk with it running and when it crapped out, it said the error was due to something not turning off fast enough. I could see the spikes in the CPU threads. It recommended, that update my motherboard Bios. There have been 8 updates since I last did one. I updated the Bios, and I noticed right away on Cakewalk the thread pattern of the CPU looked different. At the +4-minute mark when the Audio engine dropped out, it was the first time I had no CPU thread spiking. 
    I use an MOTU 24AO as my audio interface. I went to their website to see if they had new hardware and software updates for Win 10, and they did not. But they had a new page telling you to remove Windows Cortana. I always had mine disabled, and Windows plans to get rid of it. I always disabled most background programs, and the modem which didn't help. I followed the steps to remove Cortana. Then I went to the Presonus (I have 4 DAW programs) knowledge base, it has a page to optimize the computer for audio. It had me disable, one protection protocol I had on. 
    Before when I would reach that 4:04 mark, when playing back If it did not crash or slow down. I could still see the CPU thread indicators starting to increase double or triple, and after a while go back down to normal. After getting rid of Cortana, and doing what Personus recommenced, I feel like one or both of these two things, solved my problem. Why? Because now when I get to the 4 minute mark, my CPU thread activity, remains the same. Today will be day 3 since I made the changes. Keeping fingers crossed.      

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  3. Been a Cakewalk user since Cakewalk DOS. After Cakewalk shut it down, I was given a discount to cross-grade to Digital Performer. I never like digital Performer. It was hard for me, to do projects, and a few months or years later I was rescued by Bandlab. I do a lot of animation with iClone, so I went up to 128GB RAM motherboards, and a i7 -6900 CPU. I notice the difference in animation programs, but not any improvement with Cakewalk or any updates. The only problem I had Cakewalk fixed it, then the next update, it was back, was the loop my drum tracks. after a few minutes in the songs, instead of the notes starting at .000, I was getting crazy numbers .457, and so forth. When Bandlab took over that was solved.  I've been using a Motu 24AO, since it came out and with two DACS, I was able to have 16 analog inputs, and 40 analog outputs to my 32 ch. mixer. Before the 24AO, I was using 2- 1010LT cards, and it gave me 16 channels of audio output from Cakewalk, but they never made a good Win 10 driver. 3 years ago, I bought the fastest CPU then, a Ryzen 9-3900X, used the 128 RAM. Cakewalk got worst, after an update, 4 minutes into a song, it would drop out even at the highest buffer settings. I saw where background programs, and formatting drives would stop it, so I took them all out. I re-loaded Bandlab to a clean install. My CPU would normally run at lower than 3%. Then after 4 minutes it would start climbing up to 8% activity and crap and spike out. Last November when I was able to transfer the 3900x to a 5950X, things got worst instead of better. You could barely see the CPU activity, under one percent. The final straw was last Thursday, when I had a simple two channel drum track. And recorded a vocal mono track for the first time in years, It, stopped recording within 15 seconds. This is after I bought faster memory. The drum track sounded tinny at some parts though. I remember two months ago, I opened my last version of Cakewalk, still on my machine. But I couldn't save the project, because they said I didn't buy it and I did. My songs seem to work fine, no 4 minutes plus problem. Before Bandlab, I was using 24-34 tracks of audio, and Midi with no problems on some songs. I bought an upgrade Digital Performer 9 a few years back, to buy muti-channel tracks of hit records from Mix the Music. I look at most of the DAW software on YouTube, and was ready to but DP11, until I saw how bad the GUI looked, and you couldn't use two screens. I finally settled on software from company beginning with a "M", and the software starts with a "S".  This is my second day to use it, in February I had 846 plug-ins, now down to 623. I changed the software directory to all the paths where the VST files are. And it loaded VST files, that Cakewalk would not work with anymore. Clon Ensemble, was my most important one. I can never find anything like it. I had since 2004. This program and others have free trial periods. I can two recording with it that would make me sound like a real group of people.  I was also getting some ringing on Bandlab, with two channel drums. I even lowered my audio interface to 44.1 kHz, 16 bits, but it still dropped out, With the new software I imported 18 tracks of audio at 48kHz X 16, and it worked on a 9 minute song, every time. I was sort of reluctant to purchase it today, because another software was bragging about it had now had comping recording, and I just started using Comp recording 6 years ago. I was happy this other software has comp recording also. With 18 tracks of audio playing, the CPU was around 2% max, the drives "0". I just wouldn't believe it was the software. Good luck with your projects to everyone. Almost 40 years of using Cakewalk has come to a end.  

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  4. Rob since then  I had no problems , and the C drive shows , little or no   activity.  A few weeks ago, I bought a  onboard  M2-SSD  4x4  drive for my F drive, and audio files.   The only problem I have had in the last weeks   is with my UJAM  Silk guitar, almost by itself with drum track, the audio   breaks up at a buffer size  of less than 500ms, which is too high  for latency recording. Their Mellow and other guitar works fine, and they have had updates, but not the Silk, still at version 1.0  since  I bought it a few years ago,   I contacted  UJAM and they got right back to me, since I told them it was midi direct, not during playback, because I can't record  and be in time with 500ms buffers.  I last heard from them 2 days . Other than that Cakewalk is working fine now,

  5. I've been having this problem for a while , and  I think I finally solved it.  Some of my songs would drop  out make noise, and my thread monitors would go through the roof after a few minutes of mixing down to mix down computer. I tried changing the setings to my Motu AO24 , but the results were the same.  Finally while  Cakewalk was running  I did something I never tried before.  My audio files are on my SSD "F" drive.  I called up the Task manager (alt/ctrl/delete), and  clicked on the performance  tab.  There was no or little activity on my  "C" drive.  Right before the problem started, the activity of  my "C" drive  maxed out, the audio  noise started.   I then  stopped everything  and after a few minutes,  the "C" drive  maxed out itself again, reading and writing.  When  Cakewalk was playing  with all the plugins,  I was only using  about 7%  of my 128GB  RAM,  and  my audio drive  was using  6 to 15%  of it's resources,  I think I narrowed  it down  to having the automatic  defrag on.  I turned it off  and the "C"  drive  shows no activity, except  from the  ethernet, which I may turn off  while using  Cakewalk. So  if I have problems  in the future  I'll watch , for programs running  in the background with the Task  Monitor from now. 

     

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  6. First of all, I hope everyone is doing well and are safe out there and will be for the future. I didn't know even with my electronic background that it took 3 months to produce these Ryzen CPU's. It only took a few hours for me too make printed circuit boards. Some people said they were going to wait for the Ryzen 3950X, I'm glad I didn't wait because according to PassMark Software, it was almost twice the price, but not twice the speed. Now even the second top Threadripper is almost twice the speed as the 3900X. Now some updates. After a year of being lockout from using my Waves plug-ins, I am able to use them if I want. I just bought about new 20 plug-ins from others, the last 2 months. I now have a total of 717 plugins, and not all are audio effects. I still don't understand the Wave company logic, where they are the ONLY company that I used so far, that penalizes the use of you upgrading your computer or hardware failure. Also, there may be a problem where you can't mix series 9, 10 and 11, and may have to pay to upgrade. My plugins seem to be all series 9. What does anybody gain, by not using my plugins for a year? I did not remove anything from my hard drives, just changed my motherboard and CPU. 

    A person asked, how many plug-ins can you use? It's impossible to tell, because some plugins load the system more than others. I have VST2 and mostly now VST3 versions. 

     In the middle of last week I wanted to remix a song with the new plugins, and to get familiar with all these plugins on vocals etc. so I know exactly which one to use first, to get the sound I want. If I told you I knew what every button or knob did on each plugin, I'd be lying. But this is a good time as any. So while playing back the mix, and recording on my mixdown computer. The song started to break up, when a vocal came back in the song about 4 minutes later. I never had this problem before and I start seeing higher spikes in my core monitor, the music would play with a lot of noise, the core monitor would freeze and all controls, and recover with the noise, and then I can stop. I then lowered and increased my MOTU settings, with same exact problem. I felt that it had to be the new plugins, and was removing them one at a time, with the same result. After removing about 4 plug-ins, I decided to restart the computer, and load the song from a month ago with the old plugins, when I got to the 4 minute vocal part, it started acting up. That was great, now I know I have a hardware problem, and not a plug-in. When I started the song at the 4 minute vocal entry, the music would not break-up. So something is running out of space, and with 128 GB  of RAM, I don't think you'll have a virtual memory problem or did I remember how to change it with 5 large drives with more than 75% of space each. I also saw that the D drive where I keep my audio and save my Cakewalk files, I upgraded it from a Western digital Black to a solid state drive. When? I have no memory of doing that at all. I then manually defragmented both the C and D drive, which automatically are set to do each week. Ran the song again, and got the same problem. Now what? I took a look at what was running, and saw SKYPE, which I don't use, so I removed the Skype program, and all unnecessary files on the C drive. There was option to remove old Windows update files, which had the largest size and it was very slow to remove, I thought the computer froze, because the status bar hardly moved, it took about 2 hours to complete.  Now everything is fine again.  

  7. When my son moved out in March I changed his bedroom to my mastering room, and had to buy a new computer for that room. I bought a new MB with a Ryzen R5-1600 and a 450 Motherboard, I had no idea AMD was coming out with a monster. Now I'm thinking about updating that motherboard bios and putting the 3900X in that computer and using that in my bedroom for the new MS Flight Simulator coming out and using this computer for the mastering room and buying the 3950X for my DAW. On Amazon the 3900x went back to $499 last week when they got them, and now $530. This is amazing I don't ever remember a CPU chip going up in price in a few months and not down?  @ CosmicDolphin, I'm using a Motu 24AO, with 2 Behringer ADA8200's, to give me 32 analog channels to my 32 channel digital mixer. I'm also using that one for 8 channels of audio input to the DAW. The second one I use to connect 2 keyboards and 2 midi sound modules to, and another 8 channels of audio directly to the DAW. So the Motu 24AO, set up to handle, 40 channels of audio, and 16 external input channels at 48Khz and 16 bits. I checked my settings and I'm using a host buffer setting of 256, and a host safety of 64. With the i7-6800x, I used 512 and 256 if I remember right.  The problem with the AMD Ryzen series, is that it is dual channel, and you can only have motherboards of 2 or 4 memory slots. I used 8 slots of 16GB cards that gave me 128GB of RAM. So I was stuck with 64GB of RAM, until about 3 weeks later when 32GB of RAM sticks became available. I now have 128GB of RAM, which make your hard drives not that important. I use only Western Digital Black or Gold series mechanical drives. I don't overclock which was recommended with the cheaper 570 motherboard I bought, and it is the first time I used a water cooler for a CPU. All my other have a EVO 212 cooler.  While using Cakewalk I never used the freeze function except by accident  and I have plenty of plug-ins going. Strings and horns are my thing and I have multi separate Kontakt modules at the same time working, and plug-ins under it. I sent a photo of the activity of the 24 threads to someone and the activity is so low that the CPU looks like it isn't even working. I mentioned that everything sounds cleaner. It's so clean I dropped some of the compressors and other plug-ins I used. It's like less is better. I love it, and will probably get the 3950X? Is it perfect? It handled everything I gave it, and if you make changes, try to save your latest changes, because I put plug-ins, that crashed the program, not the computer.  Depending on budget, I would wait for the 3950X. They always said with a lot of plug-ins, you need a lot of RAM. Good luck with your projects everyone. 

  8. Brian exactly, first of all I'm not going to say how many software companies purchased things from, and programs, there are too many. Upgrading is one thing, but most electronic and hardware failure which usually comes within in the first week or days. If you put the stuff on your new hardrive, and 2 days later the new hardrive fails, you don't have the option to de-authorize now what? Kontact, was a pain at one time too. All the files that they told me to backup, I did so I don't have to upload them from them again. I had some plug-ins that just asked me for my serial number, and I had to re-install Cakewalk. Right now my SDD boot drive (I'm not a SDD fan, and this is the only one I ever bought) on this computer is failing I have restart the machine a few times before the windows is loaded. I cloned the drive to a portable passport drive. It's coming tomorrow. I will clone that info to the new SSD drive and everything should work with just adding a few serial numbers on one or two programs.  I've been dealing with Cakewalk from DOS, and other programs. I've never seen a company say only: "Once a year", if you know of another, please let me know? Most companies even allowed you to call, to verify it was you, that's all they wanted. Nobody was counting how many times you changed your hardware or it failed.. Some software asked you remove it from that computer on their site that they have registered with you, and then click on the computer where you want YOUR products  installed now. I don't have anybody else sending me warnings that my software needs to be paid for to keep it up to date and current. Every month something is expiring. My next numerous audio effects plug-ins that I have may be from iZotope, never a problem. Again, I can tell the difference between those who honor what you bought, and those using any excuse to get you to pay. And they are the first. I had a website once, and I was told I needed to pay $300 because someone put a file from my end with a virus, and so it wouldn't happen again, they could monitor it for $200. First of all only I could get into my files, second, I haven't updated anything 4 four months, and the only people that could put upload anything to my files were you guys. They just turned off my webpage, never showed me the file or filename. I told them goodbye. I guess $29 a month wasn't enough and their security system is safe, if someone got in my file.  Yeah, my name is John Waters, and you have a Indian accent. I'll be 69 in a few days, and my head doesn't screw off. One thing, I don't screw or mislead my customers. If you don't respect or understand your customers, you may not be there long. Thanks for your input. But I will respect their EULA. I won't miss them with that policy. When Cakewalk stopped, I was really going to miss them, but they never stopped us from using their software. Thank you Bandland! I did waste money cross-grading to another program and I had a program I got free from Presonus  when I bought their mixer, and one from Motu. I didn't like the two, but Cakewalk did not leave a bad taste in my mouth, and they made sure you could continue using what you paid for without looking for compensation. "Hey look, this guy bought about +40 plug-ins from us, and the piano, but that was more than a  year ago. So we'll just let him use the last one he bought". "We don't care if he can't us the others, this is how we do it. But if he wants to pay?" This is a type of digital extortion to me, I am the legal owner of the license to use on ONE computer. There may be nothing to say; "One download a year".  Don't have to tell me twice.      

  9. Blogo', this is not my first rodeo. I've done all the recovery, checked the folders, it say's that everything is there. But the only Waves plug-in that works is the last one I bought. All my drives are backed-up and cloned for my C drive, plug-ins, copies are made of what ever I downloaded of my plug-ins. I re-download all  my plug-ins per instruction of Waves of the  plug-ins I bought, not the others and I still don't get them to work, again only the latest one shows up in the folder. When I changed my MB and CPU, there was nothing changed on any of my drives, so why mess with my hard drives or Registry Files? Store stuff on USB sticks? I don't have one USB stick that hasn't failed on me, so that's the last thing I would store something on. When you have about 40 different plug-in companies, and only ONE you have a problem with. If something becomes difficult, I get rid of them, parts, women, all can be replaced. I don't take b.s. from anybody. If I paid for it again, I bet you I wouldn't have a problem getting it to work. Why is their program checking on my CPU and MB? Losing cars keys? I didn't lose anything. nothing was removed or altered on any of my drives. Again, I'm not going to have one software company limit my freedom. They need to fix their installation software, it tells me everything is there, but it is not. If they did their VST like everyone else, I wouldn't have this problem. All they want is more money for what I already bought. I'm not calling them. If I call them, I might as well call the IRS in India, or Microsoft because I have a virus. I now consider Waves software scammers. They have a automated plug-in repair that doesn't work, falsely tells me my plug-ins are loaded on my C drive, and they messed with my hard drive, because I changed my hardware.  There are others who acknowledged my hardware was changed, and I signed in and everything was updated and works. Maybe you are the type of guy that get scammed by Indians with Anglo names, I been dealing with people and computers long enough to know when someone is working with you or screwing you.  I know you are trying to help, but like you said, you don't change anything, where I love to change and mess with electronic things. I have a iLok, and I would rather have that than to go through this crap. Waves is the only frustrating plug-in company out there, the only. Every time you add a new plug-in from Waves, it creates a new folder, deletes the old, It's unique and buggy. Show me another company that has the same policy as Waves?  I never look back, I go forward.  

  10. 3 minutes ago, richard greenidge said:

    https://www.waves.com/support/reactivate-recover-licenses 

    It says on their website, recovery is once a year. Their customer service if I can remember was fast and I worked with no problem, I had to send them RMA numbers and proof of payments. But, I want to avoid that if that happens again. You spend days waiting for parts, put everything in and when it works, I have one, and only one company where some, most and maybe all (like now) where I seem to have a problem. The auto installer, tells me everything is there until Cakewalk looks for them the first time. 3 strikes you're out with me. Sept or October, a new CPU is coming out again by AMD, I want to have the option of buying it, but I'm intimidated by not being able to recover my licenses more than a year. I don't keep track of when I recovered last, other software companies I use don't have this restriction. Maybe they'll ask for a serial number the most. Here's the main question? Why should I wait for a year, what is the point in that? Like a kid on punishment. Then after the year is up, I can recover my license again. Bottom line, I don't agree with their EULA, so I'm cutting them loose.    

    I just checked Jim. I have 27 Wave Products, and I will miss my Scheps etc. But my other 200-300 plug-ins will have to do now. I'm retired, money is good, and I have no patience with the same problem from only the same people. You learn from life there are people who will take care of you when you spent your money on them, and there are those where those who's hand is always out. 

  11. 2 hours ago, Blogospherianman said:

    I used to move the dlls manually and eventually got tired of that.  At some point I just added all of Waves default install locations to the plugin manager.  

    C:\program files\common files/vst 3

    C:\program files\vstplugins

    C:\program files (x86)\common files\vst 3

    Now I never have to move a dll, just rescan the plugins.

    Maybe that would help the OP?  

    Never experienced a limit on downloads from Waves either.  And their customer service is fast and friendly , which is important in this people business we are in.

    @Jim Roseberry Yeah I certainly couldn’t part with my SSL bundle!! 😄

    https://www.waves.com/support/reactivate-recover-licenses 

    It says on their website, recovery is once a year. Their customer service if I can remember was fast and I worked with no problem, I had to send them RMA numbers and proof of payments. But, I want to avoid that if that happens again. You spend days waiting for parts, put everything in and when it works, I have one, and only one company where some, most and maybe all (like now) where I seem to have a problem. The auto installer, tells me everything is there until Cakewalk looks for them the first time. 3 strikes you're out with me. Sept or October, a new CPU is coming out again by AMD, I want to have the option of buying it, but I'm intimidated by not being able to recover my licenses more than a year. I don't keep track of when I recovered last, other software companies I use don't have this restriction. Maybe they'll ask for a serial number the most. Here's the main question? Why should I wait for a year, what is the point in that? Like a kid on punishment. Then after the year is up, I can recover my license again. Bottom line, I don't agree with their EULA, so I'm cutting them loose.    

  12. Thanks Jim. I never used those compressors, but I'll check them out. My buying days are over until the spring. Have to pay for Copyrights, and personnel the next few weeks.  I do really like how the KT-2A looks and the price and customer ratings is what I like seeing. I just have enough rack space now too. 

  13. SK, I moved my stuff to the cloud, and then I moved it back. It say's everything is back on my C drive, and it is licensed, but when Cakewalk went scanning for the files it asked me to direct it to the Waves folder where it does not acknowledge anything that it is looking for is there. I don't have the patience anymore. I'm 68, my next hour is not guaranteed. I have enough plug-ins from other companies, and the only problems have been with WAVES and their funny VST folders. I had enough. I won't have to worry anymore changing or hardware failure. If your hardware fails, you can't put it on a cloud, can you? I have software, if I go on their site, and want to use it on new hardware and didn't first remove it, it ask to remove from old system, and add to new. And I'm not limited to; "Once a year". I spent close to probably $2000 on Wave plug-ins all these years, I expect better and simpler plug-in installers. I like adding, and changing things to my computer. like the hard drives, they are mechanical and are subject to wear, and SDD Hard drives can only be written to so many times. I have the money to change them like it's the Airforce One, but I knew there was one program that made me weary. And with Waves gone, I can change my computer without any worries. Yes I may put something new in and it may last a few hours, but I won't have to worry if it does, I'll replace it without losing any plug-ins that I thought I bought to use throughout my life. It that's their EULA I don't like it, and we are finished. There is nothing more to say.          

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  14. Antler, I love the Wave plugins. I've been dealing with computers for a long time and Cakewalk since Cakewalk DOS. I have a lot of plug-ins that go back to 1990 that wasn't from Cakewalk. I have more Wave plug-ins than anyone else because of sales, discounts etc. Almost every year I upgrade, my computer or had to increase the size my hard drives. I have no problem installing  other plug-ins I bought from others, I have a iLok. With Waves every time I upgrade something, they don't use regular VST extensions, they have some special folders, and when it doesn't load Cakewalk can't find the Wave files. I found out when my boot drive failed last year and I thought it was my motherboard, that they only allow you to download their files once a year. So they only option you have is you have to go a year without it, or buy a new one which you may pay more than the original. They also want you to pay yearly for each plug-in you bought for upgrades, and updates for each, and mine come up to over $300 a year if I'm correct. Everyone else, if you change hardware, you either have a iLok, put in your serial numbers go to the website, sign in, if you have to download the program again like Cakewalk and it works, I have no problem. The problem is, that I bought this item and I expect it to be available to me when I want to use it. It takes hours of adjusting to get the sound you wanted and then it's not there now because you altered your computer. They know you are not a pirate because you have to sign in, but if you want to download your stuff again, you have to pay if you did it once that year. So all your 50 plug-ins are dead, for a year unless you want to pay for something you already paid for. Are you willing to pay them $400 after you just upgraded your computer for something you thought you bought and was your forever. You can't make up for the hours you spent customizing settings etc. For me, if I have a problem with something I have to let it go. I feel like I have been robbed, me upgrading my computer has nothing to do with what I purchased from you. If you policies don't agree and it wasn't free. I am not willing to get ripped off anymore, and that's what I feel they did is ripped me off. If that is their EULA sorry if I don't agree and didn't see it coming and it is NOT the norm. I not looking to change their policy for just me, it's not like anyone else's.   

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  15. No Razor, all's good, I'm just trying to be honest. I just try to answer questions as best as I can. I even had two Behringer SX4882 mixers. The first one I spilled some liquid in it (smoke & fire), I took it apart and couldn't save it. The second one I gave away after a few channels failed. Behringer products are not, repair friendly. I would not buy another of their analog mixers. I ended up get a Digital Mixer from PreSonus. Right now on Sweetwater, all of Behringer's digital mixers are rated 4.5 stars, so they are making somebody happy. If I need to record a song and need 40 channels of analog, I'll buy another BehringerADA8200. When I get a musician or vocalist saying they sound funny, I'll buy the $700 one. I liked the way the meters looked on the SX4882. Some meter bars cost more than the mixer. I made my own for my PreSonus. I'm a LED and light freak. Anything with a lot of lights and colors, I'm sold. When fiber optics became a possibility, there were no fiber optic cable, so we (while working for GE) had to go to Radio shack and cut up some toy Xmas trees and made our own. I was disappointed that the LEDS we used were infrared and invisible to us.    

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  16. Jim. When I'm trying to tweak my settings so I can have the best latency, with my 24AO and I have about 20 analog and mini channels going, various plug-ins. There are dropouts at various times, sometimes inaudible and some with noises. When you change these settings, you can see the output load increase or decrease with the CPU threads. I have up to 30 Analog channels I can playback on my setup, and  by the time a song is finished I never have less than 18 audio channels. I usually back off these setting by one, from when things stop or pause. There has been times during playback one or two channels, didn't play and I didn't notice right away or were not clear. I had people say with a program I use iClone, that it didn't matter if you used more than 16GB of RAM. Well I increased it 32, 64, 96 all the way to 128GB, and everything got better as I increased it. I've been building/designing electronic things since 1958, and worked in the best companies and there is no such thing as; "It don't or it can't", especially if you haven't tried it. A lot of thing were discovered by accident not because it was planned. Then we try to find out why. Other Engineers used to always asked me, how did I find that out. My response was, because I did it a home. There response was, they have to build a lab at home too. All I'm going to say and I sent photos in of my CPU activity, and it looks like my activity of my old CPU when it was idle. Now if you are happy with your sound, your system then don't do a thing. I'm not coming on here to debate, only to tell about my results. There are people buying records today saying they sound better, but technically there is surface, static and dust noise, frequency reduction as the needle moves in. Not my money, or do I care.  A few months ago, my daughters' 65" flat screen TV blew out. I fixed color TV's since the late 60's when we had one color TV station, but I've never been in back of a flat screen TV, because mine are still working. Since it was expensive I told her husband to let me see if I could fix it, they were going to throw it out. There were 3 boards, I figured out which board it had to be, and when it came, we put it in and it worked. They both told me a few days later, that the picture really looks better than ever. There is nothing to adjust on the board so I really want to tell them that's impossible. So I'm going to take their word because they have no reason to lie. One of the reasons I've been the best out there, because I've been very observant.  Unless you have a 24AO and a similar setup, you can't say what will happen, there are too many factors involved. The Cakewalk program, which you did not design, the audio engine, the MOTU 24AO, my computer. I might be wrong, so other than making or recording music, what is you technical background if any, I'm curious? Have a great weekend all.    

  17. Razor, I worked on electronic crap since 1958. It took me awhile to use transistors instead of vacuum tubes. Early transistors and chips used to have freq response of only 15kHz, compared to today. I buy what my budget affords, and there was a time I designed my own mixers, compressors etc. I worked for some of the top companies too. Every company has a return & repair dept. Some companies make their own parts, but all mechanical things break if you use them, that's what they do. And you know what most do? They try to see how we can make the parts cheaper so we can make more profit. Internally each batch is different there are no identical components, some will fail before others. The price of ADATS were very expensive, and the only one in my budget was the Behringer. The ADA 8200 and the model before it had a good reviews and most said it was the best Behringer product. I'm fine as long as the signal I'm putting in, is the same I get out. I bought a second one to have 40 analog channels to my mixer in 2017.  Last month, it started making noises, I had to remove it. The one I bought in 2015 is still working fine.  If I want to replace it, it's cheap enough where I wont feel it at all and can do it tomorrow with my monthly allowance and not have to borrow. 85% of everything is made in China, some good some bad. Like life there are no guarantees, just warranties.  This unit now cost $229, the next unit is $699 made by Focusrite, who the heck are they? I'm not paying thousands of dollars and no one can hear a difference. Who's can say the don't have the same D/A converter chips from the company that Behringer gets their from. I found out that IC chips from other companies are not all the same. When digital video cameras first came out you, for the best ones you need faster SD cards and the best were from Micro Center who had the cheapest prices. I tested them with the big guys, and the Micro Center SDHC Cards, beat them by a lot. They are the only cards that I'll buy now. I think I paid $299 for the last ADA8200. It lasted 2 years, it cost me $3 a week. I'll buy another before I'll buy the $700 one, (~$800 after tax shipping). I'm not a patient or a return person,  I'll throw it in the garbage and buy a new one unless I have to go there to exchange for a new one, so it has to be within my price range to do it.  I think I only purchased one bad item in my whole life, and that was a expensive cassette unit. Do you know how long that was ago? Been lucky, I hope I stay that way. Behringer has a return dept, you also have Amazon today, so if you don't like a product you can return it. I'm sure the $2000 D/A converter folks had their share of returns too. Part of being a good sound engineer is getting the music to sound it's best with what you have to work with. Here's somethin I've never though about. Behringer is still around, do you know how many companies I bought stuff from, no longer exist or changed owners? I'm not pushing any companies, but just saying.  

  18. Tezza, I hope it is worth the upgrade. The last thing I was thinking about upgrading until I saw the price and specs of that new CPU. So far it looks great. When I'm running my music, the thread activity is lower than what I used to have when I was idling.  I just had to check if my Kontact stuff was working from the screenshot I sent on here, and it is. The only errors I think were from Waves. Good luck have a great weekend using your upgrade. 

  19. Here you go IntrEd, I tried capture it at the moment most channels were working at the same time. I use two monitors. As you see I have a lot of plug-ins, and I'm using the Cakewalk effects channel too. The CPU is not even breaking a sweat. Could be me, but I think the sound is cleaner, or is it just me? Too late to do a A to B.  You have to zoom in the photo to see most of the cores. There are 24. I only had twelve with my i7 6800k.  Thanks I learned something today. I have Printkey-Pro on this computer, to screen capture, but I never knew how to do it with just windows on my DAW computer. I thought I had Printkey on that computer also. In September AMD is suppose to come out with the 3950X chip, with 16 core and 32 threads. It'll be $250 more than the 3900X at $749 vs $499. Well at least I can say I finally bought the fastest CPU for 2 months, instead of until after I put the heat sink on it, it became #44. And for under $999. The fastest CPU's always started about $1000, going back to  Cyrix, AMD and Intel.     

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  20. Thanks Razor, I'm working around it. After I found the sound of a piano I sort of liked, I bought added some plug-ins from Soundtoys and I got the sound I really wanted. I'll work around the rest of the songs. The piano I use from Waves, which I now have a better sound can be see with my Favela Azul demo on YouTube, search; rioleo8  and my animations were made with iClone. Music with Cakewalk.  

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  21. Todd I had a lot of plug-ins from them over 50 I would think.  If you upgrade your hardrive, motherboard, or CPU, you may have a problem getting the plugins to work. They don't use the regular VST plug-in format files. And if you have to upload something they only allow you once a year. After one computer upgrade my new motherboard blew out, and I had to send them this and that to prove I had a RMA etc. No one else has that problem. They now have a update program, and after I put in most of my plug-ins to see how much it would cost me, it was over $400 a year. I have a few Abbey road stuff and I like them, but they are the only company that gives you a hassle for changing your hardware. They claim that once you buy their products you can use them forever, but not with any later patches. I'm not looking for the latest patches, I just want to be able to keep using what I paid for. They don't seem to care if you're able to use their product, they have  a yearly limit on how many times you can upload your product. They tell you if you want it, you have to pay or wait. Piano? I was using there Piano in the project I was testing my new 3900X CPU, and I had to go through a few Pianos to substitute the one I was using from them. I spent about a half hour deleting them (greyed out) from my preferred plug-in list. I used their loader after I upgraded my and after messing around, it finally said all my products were back in my C drive. But I never took them out that's what ticks me off. But it still didn't work.  If you buy from them, I would read everything. If you decide to upgrade, parts failure, then you may have a problem. I bought too many things from them to be treated like I'm some kind of software thief. I'm the type of person, where I don't want to talk to anyone, just give me what I paid for. If I'm going to be hassled or penalized for upgrading my system to work better, I would have never bought their products or anyone else.   

  22. Yes Toddskins, I'm using Win 10 Pro, so I could use 128GB of RAM to use with Cakewalk and iClone. I using Win 7 Pro with my mixdown computer. I remember I started with Cakewalk DOS. And the only reason I first reluctantly started using Windows 3, because with the new version of Cakewalk I was able to print out my sheet music. Windows 3, had about 10 small floppy disc, and I had it laying around for months, and only bought it, because I was passing a store in Manhattan and it was on sell for $29.99, and I thought, maybe one day I may use it. I was totally into DOS and machine codes. I didn't know what Windows really was.  Later Windows 3.1 came out with the CD ROMS and I was sold. 

  23. I always check now and then to see what is the fastest CPU or GPU every now and then, https://www.cpubenchmark.net/index.php  then the day after it was released I saw that AMD came out with a new CPU, The Ryzen 3900X, it beat out a $8700 CPU, and it price was only $499. It's sold out in hours, and I was lucky to get one by pre-ordering and got it last Monday.  While I waited, I ordered a 570 chipset motherboard. I was using a i7 6800k CPU and a ASRock Taichi Motherboard and 128GB of RAM in 8 slots. The new AMD motherboards only come with 4 slots, and the 32GB stick of memory they recommend is not available now. I put the 3900X in the new motherboard, with only 64GB of RAM, and everything sounds so clear, playing back midi and 20 channels of Analog. I had to get rid of my Waves Plug-ins, I'm though with them, and used and bought some new plug-ins from elsewhere. When I look at the CPU usage, the usage of the 24 threads is so low you hardly see them moving. I'm putting the 128GB memory on hold, because this the best my DAW has sounded, and it's not because I got rid of the Waves plug-ins. Crooks are selling this CPU on EBAY for $800. Since I already have DDR4 memory, I paid $499 for the CPU and $160 for the motherboard plus tax. $660 + tax.  I may mess with the latency setting to my MOTU 24AO to see how low I can go now ore leave it alone. I use a MOTU 24AO, with 2 Behringer ADA8200's to give me 8 analog inputs and 40 analog outputs to my mixer.  So far this CPU is amazing also rendering my video program and saves 10 minutes of rendering for every minute of video. That's almost 2 hours for a 10 minute video.  

     

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