Will.

Coming from the road and finally back in studio again. I've downloaded the 2023.09.62 Started a project today after a week being at home and the moment I put a plugin in linear mode it distorts. Heres the strange and weird part - I literally only have one plugin on. Tested this with two other plugins - issue. I thank started a new project and used a sample with one track added one of the plugins placed it in linear mode, but doing the same thing. Thought maybe my drivers got corrupted, uninstalled then reinstalled it and nothing.

I've never had this problem before. 

Ps: The only thing I did was installing Next. Which I see now does not have the uninstall option. It also installed in the Cakewalk Folder? 

UPDATE: After many attempts what worked was to remove NEXT. Reinstalling Cakewalk did not fix the issue while Next was in the Cakewalk folder or different folder. The fix was to completely remove all Cakewalk Next folders and registry files. 

In the console view highlight the tracks you want to adjust the volume to. Hold down Ctrl and move a slider on one of the highlighted tracks. 

7 hours ago, TEN_K said:

Snap to  grid is  broken again after so many years of  inconsistency it seemed  to  finally be fixed about a  year ago.

it's no  coincidence that I've managed to  finish  more  tracks in the last 12 months than the 6+ years  previously.

Now let me just clarify a few things I have been using cakewalk since pro audio 9 days and as far as I'm concerned these snap issues started when it went to the X versions sonar 8.2 was the last rock solid version in regards to snap to grid.  Then since its been cakewalk again its been improved VASTLY in all regards it's a fantastic piece of software and the developers should be so proud of what they've achieved. BUT since this last update the snap issues seem to be back.

Just a simple example Piano roll set snap to 1/8 on all snap options and strength to the highest setting I should be able to just click close to the grid lines and the notes will snap on the lines . Easy quick no mess no fuss. now they are not if I zoom in they are not sitting right and if say its a kik drum it will be so easy to hear its not funny.

Just to be clear I don't have snap notes to last note touched or anything else that can explain this. It worked GREAT until this last update. All I can say is if this is it can the previous version be made available because I cant deal with it again. 

I used to be an active board member here almost 22 years ago I even got a free soundcard through these forums in 2000 an audiotrak MAYA I have never been able to gel with any other DAW and despite all the issues I have always loved cakewalk the software looks and when its working performs so much better than anything else its on a completely different level.

SO PLEASE FIX THE SNAP TO GRID 

ps first post in 15+ years 

It is working perfectly fine myside. Maybe you're not doing things right. Show us your Quantize window setting. 

30 minutes ago, BigT1 said:

I like the  visual so far.  I had to read the manual to understand how plugins get inserted.   Once I knew what to look for and where to click I was in business.

The vibe for the track workflow is similar to Ableton with everything in-line at the bottom of the screen and track controls at the left instead of the right.  The initial plugin window (before expanding) looks OK with some of the plugins that i tried.  The initial window shows a handful of parameters.  This might be ok if the user is allowed to change the parameters to suit their own workflow.

On an instrument track, I tried adding KONTAKT 7 and loading up session strings pro.  The initial parameters look like a mess.  These parameter have numbers for names that mean nothing at the moment.  Opening / expanding the edit window is the only way that I can see to work with that type of instrument, so far, and I'm ok with that.

Had to read the manual on how to stretch a clip.  I spent time trying to figure out how to "STRETCH ENABLE" a clip.  The manual shows an icon in lower right corner of clip, if the clip is "STRETCH ENABLED."   After a few minutes of messing around,  I tried to just control drag like the manual stated and it just worked.  The stretch enable icon was not there before nor did it show up after the stretch.

Splits, fades worked.

I can't wait to try this on my main music system which is a mac.

This test is on a windows machine test.

Things I would like:

 

    Scroll playhead left or right by keyboard command. (I use this when writing midi passages.)  I use this probably more than looping.

 

    Zoom    (Manual says: Go to View > Zoom In or View > Zoom Out.)  When I went to VIEW... I didn't see ZOOM.   Also - manual says :  Press ALT+LEFT/RIGHT (Windows) / CMD+LEFT/RIGHT (Mac).   This did not work.

Alt + LEFT/RIGHT arrows moved the track selection up and down.  I was able to get horizontal zoom working with CTL+LEFT/RIGHT arrows....

 

    I would like to see a Warp / Transient marker for when I'm stretching audio clips for ease of aligning similar clips.

My workflow is
1. Track,
2. Make certain each track sounds the way that I want it.
3. Export all individual tracks.
4. Import tracks to new project.
5. Mix for balance.
6. Master.

This program could potentially take care of steps 1 through 3.  AND I could see myself putting this to use in this context alone and being happy with it as it's own creation tool.

I don't like mixing in Ableton, and I don't think I would like this NEXT too much for mixing.  I'll play with it some more.  I was really hoping this would be able to open my old Cakewalk projects on a Mac.  I'll try this when I get home.  I like having a vertical mixer where I can jump left and right to tracks to eq, pan, send for FX and balance my mix.  I know a lot of people like to mix as they go... I don't.

You might want to copy and paste your feedback on the discord platform in the link given above by Noel. 

Where can we give proper feedback on next? 

Next is out and in BETA mode and for the past 24hrs I have been testing and creating some tracks. So far i am liking the look and feel. What i am most impressed with it, is the fact that it handles live performances ten times better than CbB. I was jamming with it, did some DJ work with it and for two hours straight it held its own on major projects. That is a huge positive side to it - really impressed!

It took me 5mins to figure out its workflow. 

I love the new Sampler and Xsampler features. Great new stock plugins. Everything is so straight forward, but there are some downsides,drawbacks,cons (what ever you want to call it) to some features that can be improved. Such as the Track Pane that is not Scalable. It crops the window/pane instead of resizing the plugins and effects on it to smaller. The height is perfect though. Also theirs NO console? Perhaps I have missed this one, but I couldnt find it. Arranger Pane is there for those who use it. 

I wont use it as a main DAW though, but for mobility use like writting demos or features when collaborating while travelling - for sure! For now i am still testing it out looking for features that might have a different names and taps. 

Heres what i can tell you upfront! Its gona pick up popularity with the EDM community! I already have gotten one other producer to try it out. 

On 9/22/2023 at 7:12 PM, Thomas Happ said:

As said in the title, my Motu 4x4 (or at least its drivers) keeps crashing.  Basically it'll get an "Audio Engine Dropout" and then all sound stops working across the computer.   Buffer size doesn't matter.  Sometimes it will start working on its own again after a few minutes, other times I need to turn the interface off and on, other times I need to reboot the computer. I can trigger it most easily by loading  up Rob Papen's Punch 2 and switching between kits with lots of samples, but it happens randomly at times as well, and I can't leave cakewalk open overnight or it will happen then.

While it may be at least partially a Cakewalk issue as well as a Motu issue, I feel that an interface should be reliable enough not to get crashed by a DAW.

Does anyone have recommendations for similar interfaces that are good but more reliable?  I'd prefer not to have to get an RME since I feel like it is way more than I should spend, but I do want something that won't crash all the time.

I'm on CBB version 2023.09 build 062, Windows 11, i9-12900K   3.19 GHz, 32 gb ram.

EDIT:  It appears the problem is reduced but not completely solved by plugging the M4 into a USB 2.0 rather than a USB 3.0 port.

 

Its not the interface. Test it on a windows 10 pc. There could be some compatibility issues with OS11 and Motu Drivers | or try a 3.0 Bus Port. 

11 minutes ago, norfolkmastering said:

Is there any way to set the Cakewalk default so that when you create a track send it defaults to pre fader rather than post fader?

Create a template with your desired settings and features. 

On 9/23/2023 at 1:51 PM, John T said:

Have noticed a behaviour change with the new update.

Previously, I had auto crossfade on all the time, which is useful for my workflow, but I could use S (or ALT+click) to split a clip without it doing a crossfade, which is also useful for me.

Now having auto crossfade on also crossfades S-splits. Is there a way to get the old behaviour back? Switching auto crossfade on and off is slowing me down quite a bit.

Not in studio now. Try switching Ripple All on and see if it fixes your issue. 

12 hours ago, GreenLight said:

I just noticed this new behavior as well (it's mentioned in the release notes under "Misc" as "Inconsistent AutoXFade with split clips"). Even if it's a small feature change, I think it's a pretty "big deal" workflow-wise that the Automatic crossfade  setting now also affects split operations and I think it's good to spread the word.

It's potentially a huge time-saver! But I can definitely see a use case where it would be good to be able to directly perform splits with and without crossfades, without having to toggle Automatic crossfades first. Maybe two different keyboard shortcuts would be something for the new Cakewalk Sonar?

I'm not in studio now to check for this, but i think you need to switch Ripple All on. 

2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

 
I'm curious if simply going to the bandlab website and trying to sign in from there is successful. 

As I have stated in an earlier post. I first had to go to the .com site | signed in there and then went to the app before it accepted my sign in through the app. I had to sign in there too. I was confused that day, but thought it was because i had done a clean install of my OS. This was before the EA release about a month and half back. 

Far cry: Could it be related to the jump made with the new servers perhaps? 

1 hour ago, Keni said:

 

 

Am I the only one here? Feels strange.

Friend tried to login to bandlab Assistant but was unable. Back end changes?

 

Now 2 hours he's still waiting for activation!

What's up?

 

Ahhh! At last! He just texted me that it finally cleared!

 

Wow! Think the server's a bit overloaded?

 

How it works myside everytime: I have to sign in through the .com site first before going to the DAW>Help>Sign in.  

But lets digress. We need to keep this topic STRICTLY for feedback on the 2023.09 release. Sign in issues are not related to this thread. 🙂

5 hours ago, Vyacheslav said:

Cake and Platinum are very different in features and performance. I doubt that comparing them can give a real picture.

Its the same DAW. CbB just being the more improved version. So what you are actually saying here too, is - Ozone 9 and Ozone 11 are two different Vsts? 

On 9/18/2023 at 9:24 PM, RexRed said:

Cakewalk will play correctly but the graphics vertical play line will hitch and stutter across the timeline.

I too experience this every now and then and i dont even have a graphics card installed. I run on the onboard graphics of an MSI MPG B550 board. 

4 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

  Hopefully the new features will make us all want to pony up \\

No-no-no! Pony must stay down. 🥴

26 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Of course, it could easily be both, but no doubt some will still find something to whinge about

Your words are not even cold yet. 😭 

On 9/18/2023 at 12:21 AM, JohnnyV said:

 After and forever

I'm pitching this to Spielberg or Michael Bay. 🤣 This sounds like a movie title.

ET: After and Forever 🤣

Transformers: After and Forever. 🤣 Sounds more like a love story of the robots. 

I cant anymore! Oh! My poor stomach! 🤣🤣 

Is this the end for Cakewalk by Bandlab? What new adventures lies ahead for Sonar and Next? Its a love and hate user entanglement! Stay tuned for CbB: The After and Forever movie. 🤣🤣 Out in cinemas worldwide. 

Let me go make some coffee! 🤣

1 hour ago, Chris Deveroux said:

No antivirus to disable.

This is an issue with Cakewalk and Plugin Alliance/Brainworx. Everything worked prior to the first early access release. 

I've had many plugins not showing on a project load due to an antivirus - especially with Microsoft Defender.

All good though, have a great day. 

1 hour ago, Chris Deveroux said:

Update: I can also add that bx_meter and bx_stereomaker are two additional Plugin Alliance plugins that will no longer load presets correctly from within Cakewalk. Must have missed testing those the first time around as I don't use them often.  

Disable your Antivirus and try again to load the problem. 

37 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

Right. That will teach us---??????
 

That $499 is $499 😌

3 hours ago, InstrEd said:

Shall we start a contest on the release date of the new Cakewalk and Cakewalk Next  

Winner wins absolutely nothing 😆

20th December 2023. 

Dont think i will forget. I want my nothing! 🥴

Im just gonna be the whistle blower here and dont care. The price will be $5 people - 5 Monopoly dollars in currency to be exact. 🥴

Just came from the ATM. Make it rain.🤑🤣

This version got a timing issue/bug. Im doing 3 beats for a very popular commercial artist in the pop industry. 

I have done one beat so far which is finish (well, i need to go and have a look for this issue there too.) Bounce and Crop does not snap accurately to the grid. 

PS: Yep confirmed! Its there too. 😭 I have a deadline on this! 😭

I have tried everything in the snap setting. Enabled and Disabled every landmark there - failed attempt. Big Whoop! 

2 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

This is not a Cakewalk issue it's the ASIO driver and this is normal. I have used probably 6 different interfaces from different companies and they all look like that.

Lol. That means it is a CbB thing. 😂

My 1820i shows them as expected in two other daws I own, but shows totally different in CbB. Obviously it is easy to read and understand them if you're an old Cakewalk user. Plus, its easy to rename them in Cakewalk. So, i understand if it would be a little confusing to new members. 

I own the 1820i for little over 4 months now. 

1 hour ago, Jorge Tata Arias said:

 (it is done automatically) 

In correct.

CbB wont remove the DLL memory if your scan settings has been set to manual.