OldNick

AHAH! It is coming back. Because the Velocity is a Note Event property, you can only alter existing "Controller" Events.

Thanks for the reply, Nigel. Sorry for my slow response. I was expecting an email notification. I realise that Velocity is a property of the note event. But I _think_ I remember being able to draw Velocity events in the Piano Roll Controller Pane in yonder days past. Velocity is shown in the Piano Roll Controller Pane in my project, but I tried following the instructions and nothing happened. I am wondering if it has been dropped in favour of working in the Track Pane.

Urrk! I have NO IDEA what happened. They all work now. Sorry. 23.10.0 Build 14 CWbB, Win 7 64 bit. On many synths I have tried in my trial project, FX are effective. But not with Dim Pro. Is this just a fact of life and Dim Pro just wants to use its own, or is there a special something? To load an FX I just grab it from the Audio FX column and drop kt into the Dim Pro Track's FX chain. I cannot remember whether this was the way of it when last I was working with CWbB Any advice appreciated.

Thanks for the reply. Good grief! It worked! I did not even know I HAD that key. AFAICS it's all about gaming. Now that I have it set not to stuff CW about, I am going to gouge out the button (I have a few missing keys on my keyboard). Many thanks for catching this weirdo (not you, the button....amazing what a comma can do ) "Many thanks for catching this, weirdo "

I start a new file with the Cakewalk TTS synth as the only track/synth. I believe that is about as lightweight as you can get. When playing back in CWbBL, the UI jumps in about one second intervals. This means that the time bar jumps every one second, and if I try to pause play the pause will be at the next second. In piano roll everything takes a second. Changing the prog of the synth. Changing the TTS channel happens at the next second. In the Console view, altering a slider will only occur at the next jump, etc. Anyone any ideas? Thanks for any help. Nick

I am rusty. I used to be able to use the draw tool to create a series of velocity events in the PV Controllers Pane. I can still do it with the standard MIDI controller list (Volume, Pan, Chorus etc), but not velocity. What is wrong? Has Velocity stopped being a controller, or am I missing something? Thanks for any help

Hahaha yeah, thanks. I found that about 30 mins ago and was going to post. Just had to organise dinner.

No sorry. I am on Win 7. And I did have the thing working before! Just not now.

OK. After a brief honeymoon between me and CWBB, it has dumped me again. I always try to repeat something I have achieved after a struggle. I thought I had, but it's not working. I have Strum Session 2 as a Soft synth. I have Blue arp as a soft synth. Blue arp has its MIDI Echo button On, MIDI Out enabled and it is set to transmit on MIDI Channel 1.. SS2's input is Blue arp1 Channel 1. If I switch the SS2 Input back to All Inputs MIDI Omni, I can riffle the piano roll keys and get sounds from SS2. Put it back to Blue arp1 Channel 1 and riffle the piano roll for SS 2 I get nothing, as expected. But then i try the piano roll for Blue arp and I still get nothing. Blue arp's arpeggio is visually triggered when I play note. But no sound. The console shows Blue arp MIDI activity when I "play" the piano roll for Blue arp, but no output activity. SS2 shows no activity. hnh hnh hnh. I had it working. Please help me here.

Thank you thank you thank you. What is complicating things is that I somehow have three Layout files of the same name in my layout list, so I can save to the file name, but then have the wrong one selected in the list. Don't know how this has happened. No..I now have four of that same layout and I am missing some of the others that I have saved. NOW I remember why I found it messy before. I can only find one instance of the actual file and I can see the files that are missing.

Thanks. just got it in place....and workiing!!!!!!!!!!! The laugh was on me...again. I used Strum Session 2 as the real synth, connected up as suggested Thank you Matthew!) Played some notes in the Piano roll...nothing....set it all up again....of course I had chosen note beyond the scale of SS2 🙄

Ok. Lottsa replies The Arp that I tried was Randarp. It is 64 bit and the page says it's a VST. I am not exactly sure how it works: is it for MIDI or Audio? I finally got to show it up as a soft synth and I am pretty sure that's not right. If I make it a soft synth, it shows up, but sendig it MIDI results in its recognising the note being sent, but there is no sound. Where should I place the dll to make it a MIDI FX? I tried Shared MIDI Plugins. The second one I tried was hypercyclic. I chose the 64 bit version. In the plugin _Mangler_ it shows as a VSTi: again probably wrongly. Regardless of that, while it shows in the Mangler and I have added it to the RHS column and saved I have reset and rescanned until I am sick of it. I opened CWBB as Admin. All the things I have read so far seem to make this simple..."just do this and (I note _this bit so often) it *should* work"

One said it was, the other one I chose the 64 version. And as I say I have this trouble all the time.

Or is the management of plugins in CWBB (and before) a pedestrian, complex clunky mess? I just downloaded a vst Arpeggiator plugin (cakewalk's does not let you select how many octaves!!!). I stuck the dll into c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins ( a standard CWBB VST lookup folder) and closed and reopened CW. Not there. So I scanned the VST folders. Still not there. I thought maybe it was the dll, so I dl'd another vst arpeggiator, in case there was something wrong with the first one. Again I placed the dll into c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins (BTW I both placed them into c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins and also into their own sub-folder....who knows. Scanned the vst folders in the Mangler. Not there. Closed CWBB and opened and scanned again. There...in the Manager. HOWEVER....Try to insert FX into a MIDI channel. Not listed. Checked that the two were listed in the far right bit of the Manager (I would assume that this meant that it should be available)....not listed in FX. Maybe they are not MIDI ...try to find them in Audio FX. Nope. This fight just keeps on happening when I try to use new vst plugins. To me it feels as if the complexity is there to hide the failed functionality.

Fair request. No. I did not realise I could: that is probably how I disappeared it in the first place. I Used View Menu/Control Bar (I had forgotten it _is_ the "Control Bar") I might get rid of a few of these hot keys. i would prefer the more pedestrian ways, I think. I don't use the hide/show very much and hitting one key is too easy to miss (for my grey old brain).

Had the Control Bar hidden. I thought I had tried them all CW BB 2019.07 Build 70 64 Bit. Win 7 64 bit. Two screens. One 1080, one 1280/800 The 1080 screen is for the main window (pictured). The smaller screen is for the Multidock, inspector, video preview. My Transport has disappeared, in any project, new or old. It was there before. In fact the entire top strip under the Menu bar has disappeared. I know the transport disappeared before and I used one of those little vertical strips to _partially_ recall it (it had the transport, but not the home/end parts.) Now, of course I can't do that. I do not know what did it and I can't get it back. If I can give any more info let me know. I am at a loss and do not even know what to say to describe it any further. Any help desperately needed.

I have added a few vst synths recently and they just appeared as asked. However I have just dl'd and extracted OB-xd64bit.dll to both c:\program files\cakewalk\vst plugins and c:\program files\cakewalk\vst plugins\discodsp folders. OB-xd does not appear in my synth lists if I ask to insert new synth. So with some trepidation (I have been there before) I opened the Plug-in Manager. I found some online instruction by Bandlab that seemed to have little with what I was seeing, but anyway.... EDIT: It appeared after I closed and reopened CW I(for about the fourth time) - I checked my scan paths and found that c:\program files\cakewalk\vst plugins was indeed included. -I ran the scan and could then see OB-xd in the centre column when I selected VST Instruments (VSTi) in the Left column. -I opened "uncategorised" in the Right column and asked to add OB-xd. OB-xd appeared in that segment of the Right hand column. -I asked to Close and was asked to save the new layout. I saved it as "nl", with the display name "nl". - I then tried to insert OB-xd. It does not show. I went back into the Mangler and "nl" was ticked as the current layout. One of us is doing something wrong....help? Any help appreciated

Regarding the not getting SF2 files to work, I was just muttering about my other thread on that subject and not talking of Rupture. So I understand your confusion. Yeah the Synths that did not work in Reaper did not include Rupture, as I had not even tried it. I did quite recently try it, and all was fine.

You know, I am getting an impression here that SF files are just flung about all over the place, including those in Dimentia's folders that are SF2, although unreadable to the parent DimPro. SForzando does produce a log if there is a failure...for the one I just tried, it said....nope...I have taken away focus from that window and it has disappeared. Whatever it said file not available or not found for everything....this is from and SF2 that Sforzando has converted. I refuse to just sit here and write mucus using vanilla....if you get my drift. While I can do the basic melodies, riffs, chords and measures, in the end I want control over the sound as well. I now feel I had it more with the primitive stuff than I can get now. It feels as if each system is jealous of its sounds and does not want it touched.

Thanks for the input. Yes, I have tried SForzando. It did at least start to tell me something about some of the fonts, but only that wavs were invalid. Then suddenly it would import one and convert, but still no sound. The fact that I can load, say Dimentia and get a result, both in the signal path and audibly, means that (AFAICS) something is failing at the Font level. I am flummoxed! Even though the SoundBalster was cheesy until you searched for fonts, it was reasonably reliable....you only had SFZ (GM compatible or not was about the worst thing you came up against)and we all knew where we stood. Surely, either I am doing something wrong, or others are having this trouble.

OK OK I crumble and will try Kontakt Yeah I like Dimentia and Rupture, but they are certainly OOD, mainly because (IME and AFAIK) they can only handle SFZ format and not SF2, when it comes to using soundfonts and not just wav fiels.

Well that was s short quote! I pm'd kitekrazy and they said that in other DAWs Rupture would not work, or did not appear; only Express. I found a similar problem, in that although I could see certain synths and load them, I could not get them to do anything. I was wondering if there may be a compatibility or proprietary reason. However, having just posted a message asking why I can't get many SF2 files to work, I am now wondering if there may be an entirely different problem

I am trying to get sf2 files to play in a couple of sf2 players that I have: sfz (not 32) and DSK SF2 V2 I can find heaps of SF2 files scattered around my PC, but only one or two of the many I have tried have actually made any sounds. One thing that puzzles me is that many of these sf2 files are a Cakewalk /Dimension Pro subfolder, and I am pretty darn sure that DimPro does not allow SF2 files....so I might understand why they may not play. However I have tried SF2 files from other locations, but am getting very little joy. My symptom is that if I enter a note in the PRV, the MIDI meter shows activity, but there is no signal going though to the actual signal track of my synth, and the Master/Buss does not show activity...and of course there is no audible result. That matched my experience of a SFZ file that does not have a pointer to its sample location and will therefore not play even when loaded. But....I though SF2 files contained their own samples. If an SF2 file that I had made/modified did not work, I would look to my work. But these are 90% files bundled with various VST instruments and players, and presumably pro-written. Anyone any ideas? If so they would be much appreciated.

Wow! OK. (1) I will have to say that I will store this info for a while. I am back into composing electronic music, after a looong hiatus. So I have enough knowledge to know what I _want_, but I am really rusty on how. :>(. So I take on board all the new stuff, but ....seriously...will look to it in the future. (2) Maybe I mis-stated my case (more than one reply tells me this😐) . It was not a sampler I was really after, and I plead sad loos (British for lavatories....an interesting typo...for brains!) of memory by asking about a sampler and what that actually means. It was more about a sample _player_ (Dim Pro etc) and my frustration with its UI. A lot of that issue has been dealt with. HOWEVER....all the input from you guys has me storing it locally for future investigation....when I stop grinding my teeth to just get music in a new system, I have always been MORE than willing to check alternatives. I have always preached (and as with so many preachers, tried to practise) that when you are learning a new system (DAW, Programming language, spray painting etc) you need to learn on things that do not matter and accept the "wasted" time as valuable. My trouble now is that having done so much in Cakewalk, I feel that I should "know all of this" and get fraught when I find how much I have lost, or things have clanged. So....impatient.

I was not using a preset. I was just trying the Env Generators and mucking about with the routing through the DSPs etc, as well as having the "main" filters altered to get results from the Envelopes and LFOs. When the lag started, I gradually worked my way back from the Envelopes to the top right hand corner, setting everything Off. When I turned the routing off, the lag stopped, but then I started turning everything back on again and the lag did not reappear ...yet....