kevmsmith81

On 4/23/2023 at 12:47 PM, RadicalJoJo said:

ive made a few songs using bandlab, and i want to open them using cakewalk.  but when i click load, cakewalk just crashes. ive checked several forums and the support center but nothing seems to help. 

Your best bet is probably to download the individual stems from Bandlab and import them into a new Cakewalk project.

16 minutes ago, JnTuneTech said:

I did a quick test with Sonitus Compressor, on my system, and I could not see what effect the sidechain input has, exactly, in the Sonitus processing. I also looked at the inline help for that compressor, and it mentions nothing of sidechain input at all.

I switched to a more full-featured compressor plugin, and not only does that give me a full readout of the sidechain input and its effect on the compression settings, but it also allows me to choose band-filtering on the sidechain signal, etc... It does the type of processing described in that "trick" video easily, which to me is basically a refined take on vocal FX ducking, really. -A very useful technique, to be sure.

You may need to try the experiment with a different compressor plugin, to really be sure it is working.

Ok, thanks for the reply.  I'll have a look at the other compressors I have and see if any of them are able to do this.

Probably going to make myself sound like an idiot here, but here goes.  The technique I'm referring to is on this video linked below.

Essentially, there's a bus added for each of the reverb and the delay, with a compressor added after each in the chain.  The compressor then compresses based purely on the signal from the vocal track.

I've probably not explained it very well, which is probably down to me not understanding it very well....

I've tried what I thought was correct, using the Sonitus Compressor on the bus tracks, then as well as adding the bus tracks as sends, added a further send to the compressor on those bus tracks.  But that's clearly not correct as the result is even messier than before I added the sends.  

So, if anyone can help me with this, I'd be grateful as I have a track I'm working on that this technique would be perfect for if it works as suggested here!

I can really hear the Billie Eilish influence in both the writing and the performance of this, and that's very much a compliment.

Lovely song, great arrangement.  Good mix to my ears too.

Thank you!

1 hour ago, jack c. said:

sounds real fine.jack c

Thank you!

I love this.... the atmospheric synths to open it up, and then it goes into that classic rock sound I expect from you.  Great playing and vocal performances as well.  Great work!

I love this.  Has a very easy going feel to it and your voice is great.

This is actually a song I wrote around 10 years ago, for a songwriting challenge where the task was to write a song called "Blood On The Frets".

Originally recorded at that time as a simple acoustic guitar/vocal song, I've just finished re-recording it with a more fleshed out arrangement, as it was always one I wanted to revisit now I have a bit more know how with recording and mixing.

Thanks everyone! 

Like it.  Once it kicks in following the intro, the riff reminds me of early Def Leppard.  And that's a good thing.

Nice work.  Great guitar sound and nice riff, the guitar part in the verse reminds me of "Gimme All Your Lovin'" by ZZ Top.

I like how much the snare cuts through it as well without overpowering everything.

5 minutes ago, jack c. said:

a fine job of recording.a good song and harmony.jack c.

Thanks man, much appreciated!

My first new song in quite a while.  All about my favourite character from the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  If you haven't seen the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, none of the references in the lyrics will make any sense to you at all,  But, the song may get stuck in your head as badly as it got stuck in mine whilst I was mixing it, so please give it a listen!

Youtube link

For people to help, they'll need to know your setup - computer, interface, which drivers etc.

9 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

I know others that are using older Echo drivers on win 10 with Cakewalk.  For me, everything was working fine till the Cakewalk ASIO optimization update.  I think 2 updates ago. Only problem was a slight amount of crackling on VERY heavily loaded projects prior to that.  Now most of those will not play or they play for 10-15 seconds the stop to buffer the play for another 10-15 seconds. (I know I can turn the restart thing off)

Other than my backups is there any other way to go back to try other versions - Like the Pre ASIO update??  Like with the old Command Center? Or a link from the staff to check performance?  I have the Original file size 674,390.  Could I update it with each of the updates till I get back to Pre ASIO update?

Thanks,

Max Arwood

I'd be inclined to the your last version of SONAR if you still have it to see if the issues persist.  That's what I intend to do next time I'm at my PC with my gear set up. 

Then if the issues persist, I'll know its something with my set up. But if the last version of SONAR Pro works without dropouts, but I'm getting them constantly in CbB, that to me would be a clear indication that Cakewalk is the issue. 

Have you tried opening something in the standalone Melodyne client to see if that works correctly? 

If it doesn't, it may be a case of either reaching out to Celemony support, or trying to uninstall and reinstall Melodyne. 

Last time I used Melodyne, which was probably a week and a half ago, it worked as expected for me.  Although I'm using Assistant edition. 

6 hours ago, Robert Bone said:

Did you mean that reverb was the only plugin loaded anywhere in the project?

Yes.

Track 1 - Karaoke backing track (.wav format), no plugins loaded.

Track 2 - vocal track, Sonitus reverb loaded and nothing else.

No Plugins loaded on master channel, no buses etc.

Just to check, have you ensured all tracks are highlighted when rendering the final audio file?  Cakewalk will only render the selected tracks.

14 minutes ago, Robert Bone said:

The stuff that comes with Cakewalk, or prior Sonar releases, all work OK in 64-bit land.  It is most likely some 3rd-party 32-bit effects or synths that I was referring to.

Even if you cannot get to the testing I had asked about, can you perhaps list off every 32-bit plugin you have loaded into one of these projects where the audio droouts are occurring?

I could then try to test them out on my system and see if I can determine if there are any issues when using them.

Thanks,

Bob Bone

I've had audio dropouts when recording a vocal take over a karaoke track, when the only plugin loaded at all was the Sonitus reverb on the vocal track - done simply to test a very undemanding situation.

Other than that, I can't say currently as I'm away from home at the moment and not with the laptop that Cakewalk is installed on.

31 minutes ago, Robert Bone said:

It does seem like something may be going on, but that is only based on now several folks suddenly having issues with 32-but plugins in projects that just recently seeing dropouts.

@kevmsmith81, can you try  saving a copy of one of those projects under a new name (you can save the project in the same project folder, this is just a temporary thing to test without risk to your real project).

So, once you save the project, make sure you have the newly-saved one open, and if the 32-bit plugins are synths, just swap them out for any 64-bit synth, and see if the dropouts stop.

If the plugins are effects, then first try testing with those effects simply powered off, and if still dropouts, then try removing them, and see if that gets rid of the dropouts, again ONLY work in the newly created version of the project, so you don't accidentally do something to your 'real' version of the project.

Also, please detail ALL 32-bit plugins that are loaded into the project experiencing these dropouts. Perhaps there is something some of us can try testing, using those specific plugins. 

Thanks,

Bob Bone 

 

I will give it a try - the only thing I will say is I'm unlikely to get a chance to do it before the weekend due to things I have happening, but I will definitely give it a try as soon as I can.

If this is the issue, I hope it can be fixed.  The sonitus reverb and compressor are my go-to for these tasks and the Sonitus compressor won't work in any other DAW, at least of the ones I own.

Although this is helping me get to grips with Reaper and Mixbus lol.  I am liking the mixing workflow with Mixbus.

I need to test some things, but I'm having dropout issues as well, and having seen some other posts here I'm starting to think the dropouts may possibly be linked to using 32 bit plugins within Cakewalk. I don't get any dropouts in Reaper or Harrison Mixbus 32c, but I'd still prefer to use Cakewalk as it's what I'm used to. 

13 minutes ago, lapasoa said:

Don't tell me you have  learnt everything about Sonar? Anyway remember that CdB is free and for all that stuff you don't pay a dime.

I'm not trying to suggest that I have learnt everything, or even close. 

But to suggest that this should be a reason to not launch new plugins is ridiculous. 

And that includes stuff which is paid. I have no issue paying for good quality stuff, just as I paid for SONAR whilst it was still paid software. 

On 2/3/2019 at 6:01 PM, lapasoa said:

Regarding new instruments and plug ins from CbB, I think to date that we have so many things and tips and many hidden workarounds that we have still to learn that there's no enough time to spend for handling some more plug ins.

Speak for yourself.

I think many of use would be happy to see more plugins and virtual synths, especially if they're of the sort of quality that we had from Z3TA and the Sonitus plugins etc.

I'm now starting to wonder if using 32-bit plugs is the cause of my audio dropouts?