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Hi David, Thanks for your post, it really is appreciated. I had a read through everything you said and understood most of it. I will also try and have a read through you're old posts on the old forum. Yes if you wouldn't mind and it wont take too much of your time? The tracks are not the best quality in terms of recording but its only to get some ideas together. I currently have them the stored on soundcloud. I might be able to PM you the track or I can PM you a link to soundcloud. Which ever you prefer? Thanks again.

Hello All, Unfortunately I am getting issues again with this. So I did exactly as the video suggests and I now have 2 tracks, one for the intro that is not the beat marker and the other track that is, where the rhythm of the song kicks in. So I loaded up my VST drum looper, its pro drummer by eastwest. I set up a groove, then played. The drums came in at the wrong bar and again sounded almost like very bad jazz drumming and that is not what I want. Very out of time and just random sounding. As this song is live recorded it does have multiple and frequent tempo changes. I just wonder the drum looper cant cope with that? Maybe it has to be certain BPM for a set amount of bars etc. I also posted on the eastwest forum and the best answer so far has been my DAW is not supported by eastwest. So I really don't know what to do next? Can anyone think of anything within cakewalk that I could try? Any setting that might be wrong or could be adjusted. Just to confirm the VST works fine when the project does not change tempo at all, so maybe it just isn’t an option. So my next question might be would I be better trying to make these audio files all the tempo, if that’s even possible? I presume that means sections of the song are going to need to be stretched to make it fit. I don’t even know how that would sound. Sorry to be asking lots of questions here, its just I am really stuck and I don’t have the knowledge to know what to do next. If anyone can spare a few mins or has any ideas I would be very very grateful. In the meantime I will read the manual for the VST (it quite long) and see if I can find anything at all. Thanks

This video was so helpful, thank you. The drum loop-er sounded OK to a point then went weird but I think I need to experiment but the metronome sounded perfect just like the video. Again thanks a lot.

Hello bitman, Thanks for taking the time to respond. So I tried out what you suggested. So I can see that it automatically detects the current BPM and maps that out, as you have suggested. I can see that the BPM varies as the song goes on. I tried using my drum looper, which can sync to host for timing and it sounded terrible, lol! It just sounded way of time and dis-jointed. I think the guitarist it too out of time. I need to buy him a metronome or something. It could be drum looper playing up as I have has issues before. The bpm varies between 82 – 86. Not sure if +/- 2 bpm is normal. Either way that’s nothing to do with cakewalk by bandlab. I can totally see how this could be very useful. I presume there is no way you can set a bpm and the song will be adjusted to maintain that BPM? I can’t thank you enough for the info though, I had no idea this existed. Thank you so much for you time, it is greatly appreciated.

Hello Michael, Thanks for the reply. It sounds like I am doing using the best method I currently can. I don't own Melodyne unfortunately. It was helpful to hear that someone else is doing what I am doing. It’s not exactly the most difficult thing to do, just takes a bit of time. Thanks for the reply and keep enjoying your music.

Hello All, I have been working on a recording that a friend has given me. Its just him playing the guitar with a few nice chord progression etc. So I quite like it and have been trying to work with it to maybe add some keyboard and vocals. The problem is the structure doesn’t fit what exactly I want, so I will need to do a bit of copying and pasting. I am fine with that concept, I hope! I have been using markers to identify the separate sections of the song for example, verse, chorus etc. I have then created separate audio tracks for each sections, just for being organised. I have then organised it as I want it, cut the bits I need in order to produce one track I can work with. I know roughly what the Bpm is. So that can be adjusted also, because I might use some drum loop later. The whole process is a bit manual, to get it all to fit right. I’m not complaining though I have enjoyed to some degree. I just want to make sure there isn’t a better way to do what I am doing? I would hate be spending all this time only to find out there is a much better way to do this? Sorry if I am being a bit silly here, still learning. If anyone can confirm if my process sounds about right or recommend a better way I would honestly be so grateful. Thanks in advance for reading and any time you can spare. Regards

I'm glad that fixed it for you, enjoy your shredding!!

Just to confirm I have a fix. I was using the VST3 plug in, but the VST2 version works fine. Only the VST3 plug in is giving my issues now. I'm glad I have something works but I would like to know why the VST3 version of play is not working with the sync option. Anyone else encountered this kind of thing?

Hello All, I am having issues with Pro Drummer from the EW cloud. So if you don't use EW, pro drummer is a bank of kits and preset grooves. There is a function on the plug in to "Sync with host" which will follow any changes on tempo and time signature, from the master within the DAW. When I play any arrangement within the play engine they sound fine but when I hit play or record within cakewalk they sound outrageously out of time, almost like a completely different arrangement. I can confirm that when I make changes to the master tempo and time sig, the play engine does follow this. Can anyone recommend where I want to start looking into this? I am sure it is something simple that I am missing or haven't encountered before. Any help on this would be a great help. Regards

I am presuming you mean the plug in is not available plugins/audiofx? Have you checked your VST settings under preferences? You need to add the correct file path under VST scan paths. For me its C\program files\common files\VST3\overloud Hope this helps and apologies if this was not what you meant.