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  1. I have been largely absent in participation for quite a while, due to some ongoing issues with high blood pressure.  It has really knocked me silly, and I am left gasping for breath, just walking 20 feet, to either the kitchen or the bathroom, and I just have not felt up to doing much of anything.

    I have been taking blood pressure medicine for several years now, and I am finally starting to see blood pressure spikes these days, so I am just starting to feel up to returning to working on playing and recording.

    I had no idea I had managed to post to the old forum, I see my post in the current forums, and just posted a test post response, which shows up in the current forums as: 

    Am I missing something here, besides being gone for FAR too long? :) 

    Bob Bone

  2. 11 hours ago, Roger Jeynes said:

    This works, but be careful: there's long-standing but very intermittent problem when Cakewalk occasionally misses the timing on the count in, so starts recording early. If and when it happens (after 2 years we still haven't been able to isolate the circumstances), the new track will be out of sync by the length of the count-in (so if 4 beats at 120bpm, it will be 2 seconds out). If you do get this problem, do please call it out: it will make the handful of people who experience this problem feel less isolated.

    Will do.  I have not experienced that issue, as of yet, and almost always start projects with 2 measures of sampled drum stick hits, to serve as my project count-in, so the projects usually start at measure 3, though if there are pickup notes occurring in measure 2, I am still good to go, because I have left myself 2 full measures of count-in stick hits.

    When doing punch recording in the middle of a project, I set the punch points, then position the Now Marker some distance ahead enough of the punch point, to get the timing and feel in my head - if I am in some sort of quiet section, I may add some measures of click track of sampled drum stick hits, on the same dummy MIDI track I use for my initial drum click measures from the beginning of my projects.  I just mute that dummy drum click track as desired, deselect it during export/render of the project, and use a marker I set at measure 3 when setting the From and To points for exporting, so I don't export the 2-measure count-in drum hits.

    Bob Bone


  3. 14 hours ago, msmcleod said:

    @Andres Medina - It never occurred to me to leave the recording checkbox unchecked!  Good thinking!

    I happened to know this one, but I learn something about using Cakewalk every single day, and  it has been going on 30+ years (mid/late 1980's or so, when it was DOS program Cakewalk, released by Twelve Tone Systems).  Good thing we have a helpful bunch of folks in these forums - we are all in pursuit of trying to record the sounds pinging around in our heads, and between us all, we manage to row in the same direction on a pretty regular basis.  Wahoo! :) 

    Bob Bone

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  4. 2 minutes ago, scook said:

    Blue Cat's free gain plug-ins can do  plus or minus 60 dB

    OK - but I am unsure how to properly apply it, to counter the fade out from the unmodified audio.

    Prior to the fade beginning, the audio peak is -0.4 db and of course it fades to zero at the end.

    How would I best do this?  I have that plug-in, and use it frequently, but have never tried to do this particular kind of thing with it.

  5. 5 minutes ago, John Vere said:

    Goodness Bob that's a new one even for me ⁉️  and a challenge.

    I would think that all you need to do is draw a volume envelope going up but I do believe there's a limitation on how much gain you'll get which I just checked and its only +6db from 0.  So the CD track is already maxed out. A solution to this would be to apply gain to the whole song and reduce it down to a level that gives you enough headroom. This might be like -25db. Once you've leveled out the ending you could then normalize the track back to something like -1.0 db 

    Other idea I might try is splitting it into a zillion chunks and applying Gain to each chunk to get them all the same level.. I would not want that task!  

    Yeah - I would have thought this would be a simple concept - reversing an existing fade out, but had not really thought about the mechanics when I told my friend I could knock this out for him.

    I have just never run across my own need to attempt this before.

    I thought about the zillion chunks approach, but do not know how I would do it in a way to keep it smooth - obviously the more chunks the smoother, but it still seems like that would be a rather jagged uneven result.

    I am hoping someone can jump in with a good way to do this, as my friend has his own time commitments for using the modified track, after I finish the edits.  He is ready to record a bass video, playing over the track, and wants to get it recorded and uploaded to YouTube as soon as possible.

    Bob Bone


  6. Howdy - my pain meds are making me a bit foggy, so apologies for being a bit dense today.

    I have a friend who plays bass, and he wants to add his own playing over the fade out section of a commercial audio track from a CD.  

    I have imported the audio into Cakewalk, and moved to the end of the track, to a spot just before the fade out begins.

    I need to know how to add automation to counter the fade out that is on the track, so that the track volume remains at the same level as it was prior to them starting and doing the fade out.

    The track shows a peak of -0.4 db prior to the fade out, and a short while later it is at -1.7 db, then -2.0 db, etc... until the track ends.

    I have only ever done fade outs, where I add either a straight line or a curved line, to fade out tracks, and am not sure how to add whatever automation I need, to counter/reverse the fading that is baked into the audio track from the CD.

    I am racing the clock to finish this, because my friend only has a limited window this afternoon, in about 2 hours, to come by and pick up a CD with the modified track, so if anyone can guide me, rapidly, I SURELY will appreciate the help.

    Bob Bone

  7. 1 hour ago, David Baay said:

    Plugin Load Balancing is not always guaranteed to improve overall performance, especially when the distribution of load across cores is already good without it. I generally leave it off as I don't often use that many FX plugins in a single bin (or in a whole project for that matter), and most of my load comes from VST instruments which can't be load-balanced. The documentation provides guidelines for when it can be helpful and when it might not:


    What audio interface are you using, and what Driver Mode are you using in Cakewalk? (ASIO? )  Please also detail the nature of your project - how many tracks, how many soft synths, which ones, how many effects plugins, the nature of them (such as convultion reverb, linear phase, etc.).

    And, just for a test - what happens to render time when you temporarily first Bypass All Audio Effects processing?  (just click on the FX button to the right of the metronome icon, and it will toggle Off/On the bypassing of all audio effects - once your test is complete, clicking again on the FX button will engage all audio effects again).  Some effects require huge ASIO Buffer Size settings, and some are just CPU hogs - some soft synths are also CPU hogs.

    Also, some plugins, like Native Instruments Kontakt, Battery 4, and I believe some other plugins of theirs, have settings where I could enter how many cores I have in my CPU, and those plugins distribute processing among the available cores, per the values I entered for the cores my CPU has.  Here is a screenshot of the settings for this, in Kontakt.  (The parameter is the 'Multiprocessor Support', etc., under Engine:


  8. On 10/6/2021 at 8:10 PM, MB77 said:

    UPDATE: I fixed it. I tried to add a new track by clicking "VST3" And "Native Instruments" and it worked.

    Quite happy that you were able to 'fix it', though I do not for the life of me understand the original issue, or the 'fix'.  (I understand you moved a folder, and that things started behaving strangely, for Kontakt, and that you did something with VST3 and Native Instruments, and now things are working again, however that does not make sense to me.  (It doesn't have to make sense to me, as you seem to be happy with how things are once again working, I am just expressing my confusion with the details of the original issue, and the details of whatever fix you applied).

    Bob Bone :) 

  9. I just started a new project, then clicked on Insert > Soft Synth > Sampler > Kontakt, with the following Insert Soft Synth Options dialog box options, and it worked perfectly, inserting a stereo audio track, a MIDI track, assigned to Kontakt, an instance of Kontakt into the Synth Rack, and opened up the Kontakt user interface - and once I understand what your steps were with the Cakewalk folder, I will try to duplicate your steps and see what happens on my system:


  10. If you find that temporarily bypassing all effects makes a noticable difference with latency, that means that one or more of the effects loaded into the project, are introducing enough latency to produce noticable lag between playing a note and hearing it. (the FX button on the right of the Transport Module, acts like a toggle, to have all effects either engaged or bypassed).

    There are some types of effects that are meant for mixing, rather than use in tracking/recording.  Linear-Phase effects, which were noted in an earlier post above, and also convolution reverb effects are both notorious for this.

    A couple of quick and dirty workarounds are to either: Bypass the effects until done with recording and moving on to mixing, or temporarily swap out the effect(s) that need larger buffer sizes to process properly (convolution reverb and linear-phase types), with less resource hungry equivalent effects (different reverb plugin or non linear phase effect), until done with tracking, and then swap the other effects back in, where you can mix with a giant ASIO Buffer Size without needing to worry about the lag in playback, because you are no longer trying to play notes when the lag is present.

    I hope the above makes sense, and that it helps. 

    Bob Bone

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  11. It looks like each program 'slot' has a volume control.  I just searched the manual for 'Master' and came up empty.

    I will keep looking for it, and will post back, should I find it.  Also, I suppose you could turn down the Cakewalk MIDI track volume fader, instead of the audio track volume fader.

    Here is a screen shot of a page from the manual, describing 'Volume' for a loaded program:


  12. You can try changing the ThreadSchedulingModel to 2, which would be ideal for most newer processors.  If you find that it doesn't help, you can always change it back to 1.

    Just avoid setting it to 3, as that value, last I knew, was advised to avoid, by Noel, because it was a work in progress, so stick with a setting of 1, or 2, with 2 being the likely better choice.

    It will not hurt anything to switch back and forth from 1 to 2, to figure out which seems to work better for you.

    I just caught the tail end of the thread, and will circle back to earlier posts in it, in case I see anything else that might make sense to comment on.

    Bob Bone :) 

  13. I have multiple HDTV's to pick from - I generally use a massive 65" HDTV for my main computer display, but also have a 55", 40", and 32" available.  Most of what I do is MIDI-based, and I record guitars or basses using my laptop, 

    I typically track my keyboards using the 40", and use the larger 55" or the 65" when editing or mixing.

    I used to run as many as 3 monitors, but just don't bother with that anymore - a single screen works fine for most stuff I work on.

    Certainly, actual real computer monitors tend to give a more precise picture, but I don't mind the quality of the picture on any of my HDTV's, for Cakewalk.

    Bob Bone

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  14. 2 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

    With Youtube, this was likley an automated process.  It isn't an infraction they sent you, but simply notification that you do not have the copywrite to that song (you clearly didn't write it), and therefore you can't monitize the video.  The copywrite owner can monitize your video (though with next to no views on it, they are not even going to be making a single $1 on it.


    You can basically ignore those notifications, but perhpas think about what you want out of these projects.  I can't fathom spending thousands of dollars on convering someone-else's music in a way that I couldn't at least post on the internet without someone else running ads on it.

    Thanks - it was a labor of love - and a one-shot type of project.  I completely agree on the notion of not wanting to pour a bunch of money into a mix, for a cover song, and I could have skipped the studio mix and done it in the box at home - just chose to do that for the outboard gear that particular studio had.

    To do that, was like my gift to myself, and my friend.

    I mix most everything in the box, at home, so outside of that one song, the issue will likely not repeat itself, unless I feel like treating myself again, at some point.

    Bob Bone


  15. I had no idea, and never thought about it, as we weren't trying to do anything but measure our music performance and production skills, celebrating a beautiful song by a fantastic band.

    The Copyright Claim on our cover version did not ask/require us to take the video down - it only indicates that we would not be eligible to make any money through YouTube views (which we never sought to do - quite the opposite, as booking the time in one of the largest studios in Chicago, for the mixing (they have insane outboard gear), was not cheap - I sprung several thousand dollars on the mix/master process, trying to bring the best gear available to bear on the project. 

    To date, we have around 1,400 views, and quite a few of those are from Mike and I, just circling back to hear it, and to look for and respond to any posted comments (there haven't been many, but we want to make sure we are timely in replying to anybody who took the time to listen to the song, and also took the time to comment on it.

    We also included text and links in the video description, encouraging folks to support the recording band, the Dixie Dregs, by purchasing their albums and songs, with direct links to where folks could do just that.  Here is a screenshot of the relevant text from our video description:


    Bob Bone

  16. Howdy - I did a cover of a Dixie Dregs tune, called Night Meets Light, and several years ago, posted it to YouTube.

    In my video, I scrolled through a bunch of public domain pictures of the various Dregs band members, changing the pictures every 5 seconds as the song played.

    SOOOO - either Steve Morse or his management/label put a copyright claim against my video, and that has me wondering - if I record myself playing someone's song, like I did here, why would that be considered a copyright violation?

    I used ZERO part of the original recording by the Dregs - every last note in my cover, was played by me, for most of the tracks, and a friend of mine, who played only the guitar tracks.  (I covered drums, bass, keys, and violin, using soft synths).

    If I perform someone's song, where I am not pursuing making any money off of it, am I still violating copyright laws?

    I hope someone can give me a good response on this.

    Here is the link to the cover of Night Meets Light, in case anyone wants to listen to it.  It is quite a complex song, due to numerous, and sneaky, meter changes).  The song is beautiful, and there is a bass and guitar unison section in the middle, that is flat out brilliant.

    Thanks, Bob Bone


  17. It may be possible that you moved the port the A-300 was connected to, and that can confuse Cakewalk, which will look like everything is fine, but really the internal identification of it has gotten whacky, and it won't respond to MIDI, but only in Cakewalk, meaning it will work fine in other programs, such as in stand-alone synths or a different DAW. 

    I wish I could explain this potential cause better, but it has been several years since I have had this happen, because I never ever change which USB ports my keyboards are connected to.

    I am hopeful that someone else can weigh in on this issue for you - I would have to dig through stuff to go back and figure out what I did to fix it, from 3 years ago, and I have a pretty adventure-filled day today.

    If nobody else has helped you out by late afternoon or early evening, I will try to circle back to dig into my prior experiences with it. :)

    Bob Bone


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  18. Sorry - I do not know - I have no familiarity with the nanoKontrol2, and all I did for my earlier post, was to pull up the blurb I posted - from the manual.

    Did you read the earlier post(s) with steps to follow?

    The only other thing I can think of is for you to contact Native-Instruments support.  In the past, I had called them on 2-3 occasions, and they helped me right out.  I called the main tech support in Germany, but there was one time where I called Native-Instruments in the states - might have been California, but the info for contacting them is on their web site - or at least it used to be. :)

    Bob Bone

  19. 15 hours ago, solarlux said:

    Where i


    Where i can search for CAL scripting language?

    Good morning.  I started to gather the CAL documentation I have, as well as a bunch of scripts, and an editor app, last night - but fell asleep.  I will continue getting that stuff organized better, so it can be shared.

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