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56 minutes ago, Tezza said:

 

If Halion Sonic SE could play Halion libraries and it could also be used in other DAW's outside Cubase without problem then there might be a better reason for having it  but none of this is made clear. What restrictions would be placed on those libraries even if Halion Sonic SE could play them.

HSSE should play Halion Libraries, as stated Here:

Free HALion Sonic SE | Steinberg

Here is are some examples of free Instruments for HSSE from Dom Sigalas. The Instruments I own and the  libraries that come with cubase play fine outside Cubase without limitation inside HSSE. It's  just the same as with Kontakt player vs Full Kontakt.

I will, but I don't have komplete Kontrol yet . . . . ?

Same here. Works fine. Saving, closing the project, reopen and changing some Instruments in Halion Sonic se, saving, no more problems

Here is the release Notes:

https://download.steinberg.net/downloads/Release_Notes.pdf?_ga=2.170654117.40775370.1613700749-1685742117.1599244740

Great. Thx for the info

8 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said:

Ummmm.... no.   The Sonic you can get for free on the Steinberg site has no sounds in it.  The one that comes in Cubase is a solid instrument with tons of sounds and much programmability,  much more than a player. 

 

No, you only got Halion Sonic SE with Cubase Elements, Artist, Pro. It's a simple player, nothing programmabel. Depending on the Instrument / Library you load, you can adjust Reverb, Delay and such things. Some Libraries (Especially the Basic stuff) are not that great with their sounds, but you can buy Instruments to load and play with HSSe, i.e. Iconica (and others), wich sounds great.  Cinematic Instruments made  Zilhouette Strings for example.  Cubase Artist and Pro have even more Instruments / Libraries for HSSe

Programming starts with Halion Sonic, Sampling can be done with Halion6.

It' the same thing as with NI Kontakt Player vs the full Kontakt. Kontakt player is just that, a player, Kontakt is Sampling and Sound Design. And there is no  upgrade from Kontakt player to Kontakt. 

And Halion Sonic Se does not make any sound without loading a Library or an Intrument. When something sounds bad, it's the  library, not the player. 

Jm2c

21 minutes ago, Shane_B. said:

You can use most of their VST's in any DAW just not their synth. You have to install an add-on called Presonus Hub to do it.

That said, there are plenty of things that came with Sonar that were locked to Sonar. Not everything was usable outside of it. CbB just doesn't include those any more.

And like you said, just use something else and stop complaining. Go use a different screwdriver.

Presonus sells VSTs of other  producers, but their own intruments are presence core instruments and that's it. And yes, I know Sonar isn't open software and cubase isn't.  But they have / had own instruments that are VSTs. I didn't know about Presonus Hub, thanks for that.

I don't complain, I just explained why I use other srewdrivers than S1

26 minutes ago, abacab said:

That release is a couple of years old. Have you tried the latest update? ?

No, I don't have.

May be I'll do, when I've got some more time left. CbB and Cubase are both stable on my system, so there is no need to change.

There is one thing I don't like with Presonus: Most if not all of their instruments are not VST, you can only use them in S1. They are building their own, exclusive planet, while I can use for example zta3 in other DAWs, or Steinberg Halion SE as a starter for different instruments outside Cubase. I prefer to use my  instruments in all of the DAWs I use. It would be great to use Groove Agent in CbB too, but ok, it's not a perfect world . . . . 

6 hours ago, Shane_B. said:

Interesting. Seeing how the Studio One Professional 3 release only went up to version 3.5.

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My fault. Release number is 3.5.6.46910 Built Mar 20 2018

My Copy of S1 (pro 3.5.6) locked up several times. In the Presonus Forum are many users with small and serious problems, as well as in any other forum. I had minor issues with Sonar, CbB is stable and quick. Looks like I'm a lucky guy.  And Some years  ago Cubase was buggy like hell. So, I'm with Craig Anderson, Software will have bugs,  nothing   sensational. No need for Drama. Especially not, when it becomes better and better.

One thing is interesting to me: I mean, I'm  (we are?) flexible with software, with DAWs, aren't we?  When I look at this 4 Vids from OP, first is CAL, I'll skip that, then automation bug and Audio Snap. Ok, that is two bugs that is fine to report to make CbB better.

But The last Vid - Copy / Cut /Paste - Thing  -- I didn't discover it, but if I had, I wouldn't think of it as a bug. I wouldt just look how to live with it. May be I'm wrong and it is better, to adress this as a bug  to make CbB better. I don't know, but to me, it's astonishing to make a Vid out of that, I wouldt not spend the time and effort into that.

Ok, I'm willing to learn. 

But after all - it's my deep conviction, there's no need for Drama, no Armageddon in sight.  And I'm tired of these comparisons with other DAWS. We all use  multiple and different  DAWs, so what the f**k - the main differences between DAWs are not the Number of Bugs but the way you can work with it. When building a house I don't use only one screwdriver, I have a toolbox with a lot of them. Hans Zimmer once said:" The best DAW is the one you can work with"  ---  

BTW - if you have a passion for  buggy software  try some Video Apps . . . . . aaaannnnd action - Drama Baby, Drama, Drama, Baby . . . . . .

1 hour ago, Craig Reeves said:

I know you guys are trying, which is why I am here

They are not only trying, they are DOING a great job. 

I'm quite happy with cakewalk and have nothing to complain.   I have S1 and Cubase as well, and I use Cubase for some Reasons parallel sometimes, but I prefer Cakewalk.

One thing you don't get with other DAWs: The Cakewalk  Staff is listening, reacting and  putting Ideas and  needs into action in no time. For free. Simply incredible !!!

Beside that: Cakewalk is still the most complete Daw on the market - ok, the staff view . . . . chordtrack . . . . . I look forward to ?

I don't know, I just don't understand some People. Maybe I'm too old right now . . . . . 

9 minutes ago, JoeGBradford said:

Ah just got this too with a project with Halion Sonic in it! I remembered there being an issue and search came up with this thread. Does anyone know if they have issued a fix yet? 

PM Noel Borthwick, He's got a link to a patched elicenser. That one works.

55 minutes ago, garybrun said:

I really cant be arsed following the crowd...  that's why I asked the question!!
I just don't get it!!  I was hoping for someone to explain it to me!!
The euphoria about the Beetles also I don't get!

Music to me   (me talking) has a feeling and experience that you will never forget.
It is an expression that  is a once in a life time thing if you wrote it.
It never existed. until you wrote it!!
No one can make it or reproduce it until you write.
That is the fascination of music to me!

Musically, the Beatles as well as Pink Floyd made some epic songs that everyone recognises  - you don't have to like them, but they did this incredible stuff, songs for eternity so to say. Beside that, they are strongly connected to a very special time in music history, they influenced and evolved modern music, it's childish not to realize what impact these Giants have to modern Music. Sorry for my direct speech.

The Legend of Pink Floyd roots to the sixties, flower power and drugs and those things . . . . . Listen to Ummagumma (1969) or Atom Heart Mother (1970), that's quite different to "Dark side of the Moon" or "Wish you were here" (greatest hits). And they did a lot of recordings like that back in the days. The Wall finally was true commerce, I know several Floyd addicts that simply stated "that's not Floyd". 

For the record: I'll turn 60 this week, so I got a little sense of the late sixties.

To understand Pink Floyd you got to understand the sixties. Subcultur, Flower Power, Drugs.

Jm2C

Cheers

14 minutes ago, SteveC said:

Or try Cakewalk, SONAR's successor?  It's free and will open your projects. 

That's what I did. My old Sonar is still installed, but cakewalk by Bandlab is so much better know, stable, quick, new functions. Why do you still use Sonar? The Platinum stuff works with CbB and The old projects work fine in CbB. And beside that, you can still use Cubase as you like.

There should not be a problem at all.

Same Issue here for several weeks now. Still hoping for an update of the elicenser-app from Steinberg . . . it's annoying

This was a strange experience.

Yesterday I just hit the update Button in BA (6.0), Nothing happens.

So I downloaded BA_latest (what still was 6.0 yesterday) installed and hit the update button again. BA just shuts down. So I removed, restarted, reinstalled, nothing changed. Since I had some work to do I decided to try later.

Today I realized there's the new Versions 6.1 available at the BandlabSite as BA_latest, so I again removed BA (6.0), restarted and tried to insatall 6.1. Installation hangs after about 40%. So I stopped and installed 6.0 again.

Just out of curiousity I started the installation of 6.1 manually (the file I downloaded before) with BA 6.0 installed and - it's a mystery - it finally works. 

Hopefully I don't need BA to update Cakewalk next time . . . . 

37 minutes ago, Starise said:

  Better too much and have some left than too little and come up short.

Hans Zimmer......someone told me he can't read music. 

Hans is definitely a Cubase fanboy. 

Not to mention, a better system will fit your needs for maybe two more years than an average system. Electronics are evolving with tremendous speed. My i5 based system is 4 years old, I pimped it with ram and ssds, but by next year I'll need an upgrade. And that's late in respect of Video and Audio. 

 I 've read lately about a 12K (!!!!) Camera. 

I heared these rumors too, Hans Zimmer can't read Music. Honestly, I can't imagine. He is an orchestral composer, I don't believe one could do that without craft and skills. But, who knows? 

And yes, he is a cubase guy, but depending on the needs of the studios he's working with, It's said he's using Pro tools too. 

Cheers ?

15 hours ago, Starise said:

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

You're welcome ?

Yes, I know the Industry Standarts. And no, I usually don't do Projekt's with 100+ vsti . . . but I wouldn't hesitate to choose cbB for a Job like that. Especially since the bakers made CbB stable, solid and reliable as never before. 

Cubase is great to work with videos, no doubt. And for composing / arranging with Symphonic Orchestras the expression maps are genius. And there is no need to render a Video direct in the DAW. Most Producers would export only audio I guess, and finish the video in the Videosoftware. Me and myself, I usually make vids of 5 to 10 min, some were  20 min, and to me it's great to export a Video directly out of cakewalk. Quality is great, it's quick and my workflow is shortened. 

Hans Zimmer once said, the best DAW is the one you can use and work with to be creativ. Most DAWs can do the Job, there are Composers who use Digital Performer for years to score Videos for example. 

But to get back to the OP: The better the Hardware, the more fun you'll have. I think highend Gaming PCs are a good orientation.

Cheers ?

8 hours ago, Starise said:

Nothing against CbB, but I wouldn't look at it for this kind of thing. Cubase yes. 

 If it were me, I would have two computers. One for video editing and one for audio work. ..but that's me. I think it makes sense to keep them separate. 

I have got  the better Video export with Cakewalk, not Cubase.  Tested them both.  And at some point, Video and Audio got to get together.

Always keep in Mind,  50% of Video is Audio.

The Audio Engine and the export of cakewalk are still outstanding. Without any ads.

HTH

Cheers ?

I use PSP, ACDsee and Silkypix. I like the dephts of PSP and I'm quite happy with HDR Editing. Raw batch editing is fine with Silkypix, Accdsee is comfortable and great for Management of your Collection .  Aftershot Pro 3 is nice for development , too,

Ads is not a real problem, the different Workspaces in PSP 2019 / 2020 are great to speed up your workflow according to your tasks. 

I like it.

Cheers ?

I simply use paper and a pencil. I never use a Password twice. Meanwhile I use 4 Pages of Paper. I don't store any Password on my desktop / laptop and use apps to clear storage / memory / cookies  regularly. And I'll never use clouds for storage of passwords.

On 11/16/2019 at 12:45 AM, John Maar said:

Zum Wohl! ?

Genau. That's where we come together ??

Zum Wohl, Cheers, Na zdrávje ?

31 minutes ago, Dare Rihter said:

. Slovenia. Most of people are nice and polite citizens (unlike me  ), so all invited to trip around Slovenia, to enjoy beautiful nature (and learn some fancy expressions). We will love You  And I'll buy beer for everyone 

 

Yes, Slovenia is a beautiful country, that's very true.

Und an gscheit's bayuwarisches Woizen geht  a imma

Prosit ??

I love sayings.

One everlasting is:

Don't feed the troll

Another nice one: 

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

Cheers (Na zdrávje!!) ???