CSistine

I reactivated offline with the new Install Manager on 2 systems and so far I did not have any problems.

14 hours ago, MrFigg said:

Get is Swedish for goat. 🐐 

Yeah, but only in written language! 

Pronounced about as "je:t" (international phonetics) or if you want, something like "yeaht" 😆 in English.

3 hours ago, jude77 said:

I'm standing with you.  I'm NOT buying anything else I don't need.  And the irony is, where do we find ourselves?  In the Deals section.  I've got to learn to tell the truth to myself . . . . .

Yes, life is so dreary without consuming plugin deals!

11 hours ago, Fleer said:

PA WUP coming up. 

Though, they have been taken over by NI, not Waves!

Yes, and I have RX 10 Standard and RX 9 Advanced. Before I wanted to upgrade RX9 Adv I compared what had been updated in 10. The result was very clear for me, almost everything of the update was contained in Standard. So I wondered why iZotope wanted me to pay a heavy sum to upgrade my Advanced! Their upgrade policy is very weird, I would have gained almost nothing!

2 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

OS/2 ran Windows in a window and Windows was based on OS/2 and would run OS/2 command line programs until Windows 7. I’ll bet its core is still OS/2. 
 

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Have you ever worked with the programming interfaces of OS/2 ? Those have been designed in a really professional way (IBM)! Compare the amateurish Windows interfaces (MS) with them! Alone that in Windows name spaces are missing can cause a lot of trouble!

Even nowadays it's obvious that Microsoft has grown out of the home pc market and not the professional IT.

But YMMV!

2 minutes ago, Sander Verstraten said:

At that pricepoint NI should be able to make a Standalone NKS Keyboard, where you could have the same Arturia sounds and then some

... and an integrated coffee machine!

8 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

And now for something rather off-topic:

Remember OS/2 and Windows 1.0? That was a soft rollout! Microsoft kept us hanging for a loooooonnnnngggg time while poo-pooing OS/2.

Not that any DAW represents OS/2 mind you.

And technically OS/2 was miles ahead of Windows (in some areas it still is)!

A pity that it failed to compete, because not enough 3rd party software was supported!

On 4/4/2024 at 1:29 PM, aidan o driscoll said:

So I went into PREFERENCES, Display, Other and unticked SHOW START SCREEN. Apply

i then closed CW and re opened it. All good, CW loaded as expected, nice and fast. Open a project nice and fast.

This is exactly why I've worked WITHOUT Start Screen for years now! Like that, no black magic accessing internet or not available resources (I prefer transparency)! Also, I disabled automatic plugin scan (do it manually, as I know if I have added/changed a plugin)!

Since then I've never had any starting problems or delays. Runs perfect and starts quite fast even on my old laptop!

"An internet connection is required to authorize / activate the product."

Regrettably there is internet required for activation, so I'll pass for all that is coming here! It seems the future is definitely worse than iLok (intransparent machine activations without offline choice!)!

I have RX9 Advanced, so no interest! But for those that don't have some restoration plugins this is a exceptionally good deal IMHO!

2 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Studio One Pro 6.6 can now be had for $179.99 and comes with access to all the Studio One+ extra software, soundware and perks for a year.

It seems you're strayed! This is not the S1 thread! 😆

By the way I would never jump to S1 as DAW (although I have an Artist installation)! It has some nice functions, but overall it is very clumpy IMO. The plugin selection alone is a reason not to use it (confusing organization with partial priority on their own plugins).

Compared to Reaper batch processing is weak, performance is worse, important things are not configurable, authorization and installation (update) is bad. But YMMV!

11 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

The silver lining is that when both are offered, the subs do provide a steady revenue stream that allows the devs more freedom to bring focus to bug fixes and smaller quality of life features and take their time on polishing the big features. Witness CbB, which has in a way been a sub model, with BandLab paying our sub fees.

You describe here only the positive side IMHO! The negative is that the devs probably just care about things THEY like, i.e. things that not a lot of users are interested in! And with subs the voice of the users is somehow reduced!

11 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

I actually think the "hybrid" model is a good idea, it quells the fear of losing the use of it.

Yeah, I think with the "hybrid" model my comment above is alleviated, but maybe still valid.

10 hours ago, MrFigg said:

Got 'em. 90 spänn. Tack!!!

Jag också! Jävla bra!

Frankly, I don't understand people complaining about Reaper's "complexity"! You don't have to do all the sophisticated stuff that is possible to do with it, it's possible to use it very simply for recording and/or midi instruments, no big deal! And in the same time that you would waste with other DAWs for installing, backups and activation games you can really create some music with Reaper!

Surely, also Reaper has some flaws, but compared to other DAWs that I worked with it is amazingly stable, efficient and even if you are not so sapient in music production (like me), you are able to gain access to functionality that people in other DAWs just dream of! And this all for a very fair price! 😉

1 hour ago, Bapu said:

Actually only about 20 minutes first time of the day, after that about 3 minutes tops.

But probably for each DAW! 😆

16 minutes ago, mettelus said:

This is also the reason why Reaper has one of the most liberal trial policies seen anywhere (by far).

Is this a hint to a DAW where you have to pay for doing a real trial? 😆

19 minutes ago, Brian Walton said:

but could be replaced by other things I have.

Frankly, many of us have that many mixing plugins that this is true for almost any plugin vendor, not only PA! 😆

40 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

... and the last you'll ever need.

and the last you are able to activate! 😆

20 minutes ago, John Maar said:

I just hope they make enough money to stay in business.

Me too!

But even if they did not, you would be able to install your last version without problems in years to come! Absolutely best DAW authorization! Only for this kind of authorization I would pay $100 plus! 👍

6 hours ago, Heath Row said:

I could be wrong, but from what I understood you would still keep whatever version you were up to on your last completed 12 month payment cycle, be that Monthly payments or Yearly payments.

"... you would still keep ...": Even if this was true, then there is still the question would you be able to move it to a new system (replacement)? Or would you be able to reactivate, if your system was changed (hardware and/or Windows update)?

4 hours ago, John Vere said:

Hopefully this version will not require constant re activation. That will be a huge negative.

I totally agree it would be a huge negative! If this will be true for upfront payment, then I am out!

3 hours ago, Craig Anderton said:

FWIW, when subscriptions first started appearing I did an analysis of outright purchase + paying for updates compared to subscription costs. After several years, it turned out to be more or less the same because updates were less expensive than an initial purchase.

The main advantage of a subscription was you had new features immediately instead of having them rolled into an update for which you had to pay. So, a lot of the decision-making process involves how often a company updates their software, and whether you need those updates. Cakewalk has a very good track record in that respect compared to, for example, Pro Tools.

The cost comparison of sub vs. purchase is one thing. But the fact that with a cancelled subscription you lose all vs. with a purchase you may still have your last version usable is the crucial argument! But YMMV!

IMO they stumble, because they have done too many management games (sellings, reorganisations, priority changes, ...)! This annoys a lot of the competent stuff and if they leave, then they cannot be replaced easily! But YMMV.

By the way this is another evidence that machine activations are a threat for the users! 😞

Now I have to fear some other programs will not be authorizable, if something is changed on my computers. Somehow this reminds me of Cakewalk and Gibson ...  😁 

Thankfully, I have Reaper and Sonar X3!

Is it worth the 8.4 GB drive space and the installation time? Opinions?