ChernobylStudios

20 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Nice to see @ChernobylStudios happy with Cakewalk again.

Scott, I posted a comment (as Euthymia) on the video regarding bus strip width.

I thought the video implied that it wasn't possible to narrow bus strips, but that's only true when you do it from the pull-down menu. It's doable if you use the right click context menu, you do know that, correct? The way you rip around in Cakewalk it should only take you half a second to narrow and widen all of your bus strips if you use shift-click to select all of them.

I pinned that comment and I'll mention that in the upcoming video. Thanks for that one!

A competent  rendition; I was curious how you'd manage to get the vibe and most of the vocals, but you did an admirable job. Mix was pleasant to listen to as well. Nice work.

I enjoyed the piece. Nice work!

I don't have BFD3 so I can't do it myself to test. But I would, before anything else, to double check the routing. You've set up a really complicated routing system, so let's go back to Step 1. And then let's go through this checklist:

• When you create a multiple-output routing of BFD3 to Sonar, do all of the instruments work? 
• If all of the instruments play through separate channels with an initial multi-out, if you solo the snare, does it play?
  • If no, something is wrong with the output routing settings.
  • If yes, Does drum kit bleed sound through the solo'd snare track?
• Disable bleed in the BFD3 instrument if you'd like.
• Create Snare Bus.
• Route BFD3 Snare to Snare Bus.
  • Solo bus - do you hear the same exact audio that you did with initial routing?
• Create Drum Submix bus.
• Route drum channels to drum submix bus.

I also wouldn't bother "thinking ahead" and creating FX Sends for reverbs or anything right now, first thing is to ensure the instrument loads and works properly with the routing system.

Try that and let us know.

7 hours ago, Mad Musicologist said:

Now it's getting signal, but I still hear all very faintly, also the kicks and cymbals, although I have only the snare soloed. 

Disabeling   plugins on "out BFD Snare" bus C does not change anything really. I checked every plugin in the rows. 

Next evening I will check if there is something inside BFD going wrong, although I am re-checking that with every effort I start. Maybe I should even reload the affected kit parts.

Thankx, though...

That sounds like normal drum bleed... is there an option in the instrument plugin itself to disable bleed?

1 minute ago, David Baay said:

You should really follow up on some of the suggestions made in your old thread about your issues with editing multitrack drums before repeating this. Specifically, either apply markers from a guide track and quantize by stretching rather then by splitting as Lord Tim suggested, or Apply Trimming after splitting at transients as I suggested if that's still your preferred method:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/Editing-multitrack-drums-is-completely-impossible-This-needs-to-be-addressed-m3362190.aspx

 

Or editing drums should just work without having to dodge and weave to find ways to make it work. I use manual slip editing. Go ahead and try it and report back to me.

17 hours ago, fitzj said:

Scott

You said Cakewalk will struggle with multi-tracked drums. Can you explain further? Can you let us know the difference in  this feature in Cubase where I presume it works well to Cakewalk. Is Cakewalk aware of these issues?

Oh man, this is a very famous and well known problem that goes back years and years. They know about it. But there isn't an easy solution and the only way to fix it is to re-code from the ground up. You can get away editing multi-tracked drums if they are about 3 minutes in length and played by Phil Rudd of AC/DC. Anything more complicated is a huge, huge pain.

I imagine it will get fixed, but not anytime soon.

16 hours ago, Tezza said:

In terms of pricing, I use lynda.com because my library has an agreement with them which means I get all video tutorials free. However there are no Bandlab videos there only old Sonar. There are also free options on youtube but as you say, these are disconnected and not really that useful and hit and miss in terms of quality. I also have an account with Groove 3, don't know what is up there at the moment but I bought the Sonar videos when they had a special. I also bought the SWA stuff.

I think your videos are great but the opening overlays with skull and crossbones and fire put me off. I can see this coming from your background with heavy metal but to my eyes you are limiting yourself to this genre. In my opinion, the overlays should be more generic and professional that would appeal to all DAW users, including children. If I was a father and saw my kids watching your videos, I would be concerned. Also, some people might consider them devilish, again, limiting your audience.

In addition, DAW product manufacturers are more likely to recommend your videos if the level of professionalism you display, matches theirs.

Professional looking websites and content attract me to videos because I think I am buying a professional product. Your content is great but your presentation needs some work in my view.

I would buy a video such as you are describing with the above mentioned changes for $25.00 US. Exchange rates are terrible at the moment  and this would be 36.00 dollars or thereabouts in AUS. That's about the limit for me with videos.

I think you are in a position where you can have a unique product that can address a hole in the market and would be quite popular if you made it more appealing to a wider audience. Setting your price under the market threshold would be the best idea to start off, bigger turnover for slightly less money and taking into account current exchange rates. You could always have specials as well.

I also think you should stick with the stock FX plugins in Bandlab and supplement it with free VSTi plugins for instruments. This way, anyone can follow the tutorials.  

I hope you get it all done, then I will buy. Even though I have got quite proficient, I still like to use videos on the way others do things.

 

 

Using sites like Lynda, etc., to orientate yourself on price is not a good idea. Those sites completely rip off the content creator. I did content for Udemy and for the amount of hours I put into the content, did not see a very good return. Udemy made a few thousand dollars off me, however.

I have worked with a lot of plugin companies doing video reviews and none of them have had any issues with my presentation or my style. I don't swear and     I'm not vulgar. I also did official reviews and videos for Cakewalk Sonar under Gibson. My experience is people care about results and what can help them. I have a good tracking of providing results and helping people.

$25 is not going to happen.   That's just silly.

I also know I could fill a hole in the market, which is why I'm considering doing it. I've been trying to contact Bandlab as well to see if this could become an official sanctioned thing.

Using mostly stock plugins was the plan for sure. I would still use premium stuff for my Submix/Master chain, but most processing work can be accomplished with stock stuff. Even the dinosaur Sonitus plugins.

7 hours ago, msmcleod said:

FWIW, the Groove3 "SONAR Explained" video is $35 USD and is 5.5 hours long, and IMO is one of the most comprehensive guides available.

I would suggest $25 USD to be a reasonable price.

Oh, and excellent work on the tutorials so far

 

"SONAR Explained" is already almost 5 years old and is priced fairly for the fact it is more-or-less outdated.

$25 would never happen.

What are you sending here? These are FX sends, and what I see is you may be trying to use them as sends to busses. The only routing you need to do is below in the channel strip where it says "Output", where you already have everything correctly routed.

I would disable these and see what happens.

52 minutes ago, Feral State Sound said:

Thank you Scott! I would like to see the following:

1 - Mixing basics: gain staging, volume leveling, panning, EQ, Comp etc. I mean, all the things that you consider to be "basic" in a mixing context. Maybe it seems obvious but this days is easy to get lost diving on the internet and a content curator is much needed.

2 - Vocal, guitar, bass and drum editing and mixing using free tools (if possible).

3 - MIDI and sample libraries: focusing on drum instruments but also including things like orchestral instruments, guitar, basses and such.

Suggested price: 50$

PD: I though that you finally settled in Cubase, Are you feeling nostalgic?

Hey there,

Your points for #1 wouldn't be a problem and would be showcased in a real-time mix of a song.

Points for #2 are where things get iffy. For one, Cakewalk  will struggle with multi-tracked drums, however, I doubt highly most people are using Cakewalk to track multi-track drums. But editing the other instruments could be shown, I suppose.

#3, sure.  But most of that stuff isn't going to be free.

I'm not feeling very nostalgic, haha, I've totally converted to Cubase but I can't deny that I still get tons of questions, comments, and emails about using Cakewalk.   

Hey there,

Could you show several screenshots of your routing? BFD --> Snare --> Snare --> Master. etc.

I'm not immediately sure why it's not working.

Welcome to the crazy world of mixing music, where every plugin company says that with just $47, you will sound like the pros.

Save your money. 

I've got some questions for you.

1. What kind of music are you working on?
2. What type of productions do you like the most?
3. Who  is your favorite producer/mixer?
4. What album do you really like the sound of and why?

Mixing a very subjective process. There are "good" and "bad" mixes in the objective sense when we talk about kick and bass balance, but that is also genre specific. My advice would be to answer those questions for yourself, and then reverse-engineer it with questions like:

• How did the producer get the kick drum/bass relationship right?
• How did the producer ensure there was  room for the vocals but the guitars still sound huge?
• What kind of effects  are being used on vocals?
• Lots of compression or not really?
• Really loud? (Like -4RMS?)

Find videos (if there are any) about your favorite productions and how they were produced. If you can't find any, find videos with like sounding results and learn the process of how it was made.

You are making the mistake that all people make when they first start, in that you believe it's simply a matter of numbers and presets. If I just do X by -3dB and load Preset 345, everything is going to be great.

It's just not like that - music is a living and breathing entity and you can record the same guitar riff 5 times and you will have 5 completely unique files that, depending on how well (or not so well) the performance was, could call for totally different processing needs.

I wish I, and all of us here, could just give you a simple answer that was like, "Yeah, go buy Joe Blow's "24 hours to not sucking at mixing" for $19.99 and you'll be all set."

If you're recording rock, check out Graham from Recording Revolution. He does great content about getting started with mixing and is solidly in the rock/contemporary rock genres.

If you're recording metal, you can watch my videos. I have a full A-to-Z mixing series where you can also download the stems and follow along.

If you're recording jazz or other genres, I have no idea because I don't pay attention to it.

Anyway man... take it slow, baby steps, just don't give up.

16 minutes ago, Pewter1985 said:

Just signed up and purchased the Studio Pass and used the CLASS60 code (one time use per account) thanks Larry.

The email you receive for a free bonus ebook after signing up for their newsletter, clicked on the link to get my free ebook and at the bottom of the web page is an offer if you buy either the Studio Pass or Mixing Masterclass you can get the Misha Mansoor plugin and a choice of glue plugin from Joel Wanasek or JST.

You can't get both the $49 gift card and the plugins (as I found out from support, took the plugins as more value there). Not sure if you could purchase one tutorial video get the plugins then purchase the other and get the gift card as its based off the receipt of purchase you have to submit.

The Mansoor plugin is terrible. The Joel Wanasek bus glue plugins are 100% legit and, in my opinion, are better than Joey's. If you can only get one bus glue plugin, get the Mix one and you'll be able to replace your entire Submix chain with that one plugin.

Thanks for your feedback.

I still need to do some testing, because there are still some things that are just not feasible in Cakewalk yet at a professional level, but I think for 95% of people's needs, Cakewalk would do what people are looking for.

I definitely would use stock plugins and mostly free  stuff. 

The basic idea was to take a more-or-less comprehensive song that would showcase most of the needed functions and how to use them; as well as some one-off videos. I always think people learn better in context rather than just having a dozen disconnected videos.

I have played around with CbB since the update and I'm happy to see the plugin issue was fixed, as well as a whole host of other bugs and issues.

I may need to continue these tutorials when I have time.

Just a shot in the dark, if I put together a comprehensive video tutorial series recording a song with free plugins and instruments and charged for it, what would you guys be willing to pay and what would you expect to see in it?

Every year for Halloween, I do a number of $100 mixes for metal bands. If that's you, let me know. There are a few spots left.  

Message me via my contact form and submit your song.

Submit here.

On 10/7/2019 at 8:13 PM, Monomox said:

You can get the 3 free plugins only today, tomorrow you'll get only two when you sign up. I took Scott's metal tone course in Udemy and it was very helpful. 

 

Happy you grabbed it on Udemy. That course isn't available anymore and what I'm offering now is much more detailed with a lot more examples and has about 2 times more video instruction.

I might be opening registration again in January/February 2020. Not sure yet.

On 4/14/2019 at 8:16 PM, Starship Krupa said:

I just have a thing about moonieware, and Reaper is, unfortunately, moonieware.

It's definitely not moonieware because Reaper isn't perfect. The userbase has created scripts and such to help deal with silly things like a confusing menu system. The Reaper Better Menu Set is a required addition before anybody gets started, in my opinion. Right now the entire Reaper community is pissed off because the new default Reaper 6 theme isn't professional enough in their opinions. CbB is in direct competition with Reaper because a lot of people erroneously believe that Reaper is free and therefore when people say Reaper does such-and-such better, it's something to take heed. Reaper does do a lot of things better. And faster. Being that tons of people do not pay for Reaper and use it for free - I'd say it makes a lot of sense to listen very closely what people say about Reaper.

On 4/15/2019 at 3:39 PM, SomeGuy said:

I don't typically see Cakewalk users do this.

Make a video being critical about Cakewalk and see what happens. You'll find a rabid userbase coming out of the woodwork to misrepresent you and find any reason to slag off your criticisms. To think that Cakewalkers don't drink the kool-aid here is simply naive. The only good thing I can say about this is that in the new forum, a lot of the old elitist party-poopers are not here to jump in and stoke the flames. 

On 4/26/2019 at 11:24 AM, Marks Krontāls said:

As I have just downloaded Cakewalk as my first DAW, these tutorials are a massive help for me! There are not much tutorials on youtube on the new Cakewalk. Thank you for doing this, they are really great. Super nice tips.

Glad they are helpful for you! 👍

12 hours ago, Tezza said:

The only thing in this video worthy of getting drunk and swapping DAW's would be the third party plugin issue if it is indeed an issue for others who don't drink while driving their DAW.

I didn't get drunk, you moron. Care to misrepresent me again? Go on.

Yeah these are cool. Great plugins to throw into a session and track with. Dominator and Grind Machine II are personal favorites!

On 4/21/2019 at 3:19 AM, mkerl said:

FYI, I saw the Video first on YT, because I follow Chernobyl. My first thought was, he should work his problems out with the cake staff. Next I saw the first live stream on YT and  I realized it's about a discussion here in the forum. Ok. (I spent more time on YT lastly as in forums)

jm2c 

I can make a video or a live stream on my channel if I want. Nobody forces you to watch it. (Or comment on it for that matter.) 

On 4/21/2019 at 9:04 AM, John said:

I don't think anyone is upset with you Davydh.  As said I think it was useful at first. Its the further responses that went sour. It happens as I noted for as long as there has been a program called Cakewalk. Its not new. 

The problem should be address by Bandlab.  The only way to do it efficiently is for the poster of the video to work with them to get it fixed.  I don't think its good form to post a video that bashes Cakewalk without a chance for Bandlab to fix it. 

Others have a right to a different opinion.  

You're completely wrong. I have full rights to say whatever I want on my channel regardless of what you think or feel about it or what you think I "should have" done.

On 4/21/2019 at 12:11 AM, mkerl said:

Viewing the number of clicks, I would call it all but going "viral". Since the Cakewalk staff is remarkably responsive, friendly and helpful I don't see the necessity for this dramatic appearance. I would think it's Kind of clickbait, but the channel is to small for monetarizing, so, I must say , I don't get the point. What's the intention for these Videos and streams? Just a dramatic wake-up call? 

Why do you care so much? If you don't get the point, then why are you here? 

17 hours ago, Johnbee58 said:

Sorry about the above removed post but sometimes I get so  mad at some people that I tend to say things that are ultimately beneath me and as there are no ways to delete posts once you put them up I just had to delete the words.

That being said, I feel Chernobyl's (Scott's) pain and frustration about the issues he presents.  In fact, I admire him for using much more constraint than I would if confronted with the plug in settings  going bye- bye and the transport issue.  Fortunately, I haven't encountered them (yet anyway).  But perhaps he should have just forgone making his video until the folks at Cakewalk resolved those issues (as I'm sure they will eventually, perhaps as early as the next update).  I feel confident they are, even at this moment, working diligently to come up with a successful answer.

The negativity of some people on this forum is appalling!  John & Puddy-You both have serious attitude problems! 

🙂John B

No sense getting mad John. You've got people using words they "choose" to interpret meaning something else, other people just telling me to "go away" because they don't like my thoughts, with everybody else saying their version of "you should have just done A, B, C." It's the Internet and all the Navy Seal badasses come out of the woodwork in their own Secret King ways.

Regarding the video, that's all hindsight 20/20, but the fact remains that I made the video on my channel because they were my thoughts and my opinion. I'm fully entitled to that. Further, I did that because I knew how the old Cakewalk forum behaved and I expected certain backlash and behavior from the community. As you can see for yourself, I was spot on.

3 hours ago, Kurre said:

It would be f.ing great if i could have something interesting to read instead of this shit. Admin?

Or just don't look at it. Are you really so helpless that an Admin should save you from yourself?

Had forgotten all about that. That's what happens when the fame isn't organic, which is why a lot of the pop artists today are forgettable. Major advertisement pushes with cash-grab merchandise and then moving on to the next one.

Well played.