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2 hours ago, MarcL said:

I just hope that they don't add iZotope and PA products to Native Access! That would be a horror! If they do we lose offline authorization and installation & update will be 10 times slower (especially if you install on more than one system).

I would be very worried. https://blog.native-instruments.com/native-instruments-brand-news/

 

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Honestly, I don't know where to voice concerns about this. This will cripple my usage of Plugin Alliance if they put them in that dumb a s s Native Access program.

Side topic, why do these forums censor and/ or block the word a s s, like wtf space karens, grow up.

12 hours ago, abacab said:

Even though PreSonus is a US based company, I believe that their in-house software development team is based in Germany.

Yep, You're absolutely correct. The developers have also done heavy work for Steinberg as to why Studio One is similar to Cubase.

On 11/18/2022 at 8:07 AM, Esteban Villanova said:

Oh, sorry mate, I misread you. Yeah, definitely the trend is to use your DAW's integrated sampler, and that means there are very few third part options. Even the pricy ones like Nuance can't compete with the integrated ones. CR8 looks very nice but that RAM... I've spent hours the last few months trying to find alternatives without switching DAWs.  

Oh no, not a problem. I see the confusion here and it's already been addressed so no need to delve more into it.

Yeah, Presonus aren't at all good at updating and/ or fixing bugs. I think it's because everything coded is outsourced. Every Time I've contacted support it's always the same. Thanks for the steps on recreating the bug. I've sent this to the development team and you should see it in the patch notes at some point bla bla bla. It took a year for the side-chain compensation bug to get fixed. From Studio One 5.0 to 5.2.1 that bug was just there, mad that sucked.

Like Studio One 4 was a tank, never had issues, but then someone just started killing what made Studio One great.

I honestly have no nope in Studio One now since Presonus merged with Fender. I could be wrong, but I've completed a Studio One survey recently and one of the questions was quite odd. The survey was asking about how you use Studio One and what main features do you use, but then suddenly asked, " Do you use a Fender Guitar" LOL.

If I didn't have access to Sample One for a sampler, I think I honestly would be using Native Instruments Battery 4. It works and gets the job done.

19 hours ago, Esteban Villanova said:

Sample One XT is one of the WORST integrated samplers. It's very basic compared to the ones in Live, Reason, Digital Performer, Cubase's sampler track, all of which can do much more... and it's bugged since years and Presonus refuses to fix it:

https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?t=30930&p=281241

 

Hello Esteban Villanova

I've used Native Instruments Battery, Kontakt 5, 6 and 7, Presonus Impact, Impact XT, Sample One, Loopmasters Loopcloud 4, 5, 6, FL Studio, ADSR Player, Waves CR8 and I've found Presonus Impact XT and/ or Sample One (Studio One 5) to work better for my workflow.

I personally didn't like Ableton, Cubase and the last time I used Reason was back in 2007 and never tried Digital Performer.

Each their own I always say. I'm not in the music production to be brand loyal, just in it to make music. Whatever gets the job done, works for me.

I don't doubt that Presonus Studio One's Sample One could have bugs as I've noticed them in the past, but can't think of any that affect me personally at the moment.

5 hours ago, abacab said:

So just out of curiosity, please share what you are using for a sampler.

I use Sample One and Impact XT from Studio One 5.6 professional. I also use loopcloud 4 (it's old), but allows me to find samples with ease and drag and drop into the DAW.

18 hours ago, abacab said:

So then just don't use it. I doubt Waves are going to "fix" anything.

Hello,

Ohh, my bad. My reply wasn't a message of intent, but my opinion as to why I don't use Waves CR8. You stated your opinion, just sharing mine.

9 hours ago, abacab said:

I don't really see that as a problem unless someone plans to run dozens of CR8 instances in your project. Most folks have at least 16-32 GB of RAM available. Freezing instrument tracks or bouncing them to audio is also an option to free memory (and CPU) after you have finalized a track.

And for those that absolutely need a sampler with a smaller footprint, check out the free Grace sampler by One Small Clue. Not as fancy as CR8, but only uses 269 MB of RAM. https://www.onesmallclue.com/

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2015/09/14/grace-sampler-free/

"Compared to various more powerful (and quite often needlessly over-bloated) sampler instruments on the market, Grace is an absolute joy to use. Granted, it does have its limitations (more on those below), but it is the perfect tool for handling a substantial percentage of everyday sampling tasks."

To each their own, but I absolutely won't use a sampler that uses 1GB (plus) of RAM per-intense. Just sets up issues down the road when opening old projects. I have 32GB in my W11 machine and still wouldn't use it. It's an unnecessary use of system resources.

Waves audio has the money to fix it, but the issue could be they're trying to pay the developers $29.99... Okay, weak sarcasm at Waves, but still the plugin in my eyes shouldn't use 1GB of RAM.

Normally I wouldn't care about the updating process for a virtual plugin, but with Waves plugins being directly linked to an update service model, I'm very cautious of what I use in productions.

4 hours ago, fpoir said:

I like this forum, and I'll be sorry if my next sentence sets my ejection in motion, but: Spitfire's treatment of Christian Henson leaves me unlikely ever to buy from them again.

I wasn't aware of this, thanks for sharing. Yeah with how poorly Spitfire treated Christian Henson with this, I'm for sure doing a chargeback on my card and looking at different sample companies altogether.

3 minutes ago, Esteban Villanova said:

Does it still use 1 GB RAM per instance?

Funny, but also a really good question. Once I found out it was using that 1GB RAM per-instance, I messaged Waves audio and they stated it was "by-design". I immediately uninstalled and stated on their forums it was my opinion their design was terrible.