Feral State Sound

This is a great addition. Could you add an easy way to swap between accounts in the Bandlab library? I don't know if I am missing something but I don't see a log out button.

3 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Soon, its a big release and we're still finalizing and cleaning up some issues.

I am intrigued Can you tell us more? 😅

I am testing the library and is not working in the free Msoundfactory player but is working perfectly in the beta Mdrumreplacer. It has a wide variaty of great sounding shells and cymbals and the drum replacer is really good. I was thinking of buying one of this things on the upcoming Black Friday deals but maybe this is cheaper and I can't use it for free as long as it is in beta. 

Hi Bandlab team!

I would like to see a easier way to add custom note names in the CbB PRV. Most of the home studios program some drums and is useful to see the notes properly named instead of the diatonic layout.

In its current form you have to create an Instrument Definition or a tedious Drum Map. Other DAW like Cubase or REAPER allow you to just write, save and re-load the custom note names in the attached PRV keyboard.

Thanks!

Video example of REAPER implementation: 

2 hours ago, Colin Nicholls said:

I don't know about "easy" but the feature you'll need to explore is creating and/or customizing Instrument Definitions.

See Creating Instrument Definitions in the manual.

This seems a little messy...

I was looking a way to just write the Note Names in the PRV keyboard but as I see is not possible. That would be a useful feature addition.

Hi folks!

I am trying to program some drums using Steven Slate Drums 5 Free and I can't find and easy way to add custom note names in the PRV. 

The General MIDI Drum notes works for the most part but there are some names missing.

Thanks!

I am testing this with the free Spitfire BBCSO Discover and is working https://www.babylonwaves.com/2020/05/07/free-art-conductor-for-spitfire-bbcso-discovery/

Did someone try if it works to switch between "Attribute" (single notes) and "Direction"? In my case both expression maps seem to have the "Direction" behaviour.

The integrated Breverb is not bad. I really like the ones from ValhallaDSP, maybe Vintageverb is what you are looking for.

5 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

What I quoted was someone hoping for AD3....which undoubtely would be a paid upgrade, and AD2 would then inevitably no longer be supported.

Why would be a paid upgrade? They are still selling the AD1 kits using the AD2 engine. With AD3 for sure there will be more AD and groove packs but the engine is like Kontakt Player. That's because I like XLN, there are no absurd upgrade policies.

@TerraSin

If you like SD 3, just buy SD 3. AD 2 is a completely different product, easier and suitable for almost every hardware. You don't need a powerful computer but it is still a top notch virtual instrument. How can it be improved? The only things missing for me is a more flexible routing system (you can't route, for example... Kick In and Kick Out mics to different tracks as thery are blended) and a scalable interface.

I don't undestand the snobbery with music software. It seems that everything that you own will be crap in 4 years.

31 minutes ago, Brian Walton said:

no thanks.

I'd prefer AD2 to continue support instead of a money grab on a upgrade I don't need.

 

AD Still sounds just fine, and if you just need more grooves, there are plenty of other option on the market to add to it/map and translate to, etc.

What upgrade? AFAIK the XLN player is free, there are no upgrades. 

Considering yearly upgrades and such... I think the wiser decision is the subscription service (Pro X Suite 365). At the end, software is a service and not only a product. 

Great work bakers!

Seriously CTRL + mouse wheel was inverted? Since when? I didn't notice it or I just got used to it.

43 minutes ago, Jonathan Sasor said:

It's worth checking out (or at least reading the release notes) as we go through updates. We're certainly striving to increase stability with updates.

Maybe if you've got a deadline "on Monday" you might want to hold off, but if you've got a couple months to go, it could be worth it to check out an EA. Maybe we fixed something that's been bugging you, or optimized performance on something. I actually used the early iterations of the Arranger to help write a song on a record I put out last month. 

The rollback is simply there just in case. 

That's the thing, to have a rollback feature "just in case" we need it. I tend to not update until I read your comments regarding stability and such but, now, I can update in a non destructive way.

Sorry for the double post, I can't edit the previous one with my phone. Thank you for the roll-back option, I am sure that many people that is working on a tight deadline doesn't want to wait for a hotfix.

10 minutes ago, Jonathan Sasor said:

If you kept the previous releases' rollbacks, then this would theoretically work. There might be some minor differences related to content (presets and the like) by successively rolling back than if you had never installed the later updates, but the actual Cakewalk app will work per that given update after rolling back. The primary goal of having a rollback installer is that if we release an Early Access or other update that if you run into a blocking issue, there's a simple way to go back until we've been able to address the issue. In general we recommend sticking with the current version though. 👍

8 hours ago, mgustavo said:

@Noel Borthwick I did the roll back to 2020.01 update but the issue was still there! Sorry I didn't noticed that before!

In relation to the driver mode I'm using ASIO.

Also I'd like to add that I tweaked some options on Windows Sound Control Panel and that reduced the streaming sites issue, so the bug only occurs when CbB is open (if I shut it down streaming sites will work fine).

Best regards

If you are using ASIO that is weird... I thought that you were using Wasapi shared mode and you have Cakewalk running at 44'1 while the rest of the programs at 48. Did you try with wasapi shared? 

11 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

For every   1 musician that uses a staff view there are easily 100 or more that do not use them on any regular basis.  

But it still is a present feature in the program that should be updated, the same applies to Matrix view. In my opinion, is better to deprecate the features that are abandoned to avoid problems and complains.

@Noel BorthwickBorthwick

Thanks to you and the rest of the bakers for the update! Is there any plans for developing a Mac version? Is the only aspect that makes me not to jump into Cakewalk  completely. 

https://e-instruments.com/

Are they any good? They seem to be.

19 hours ago, GreenLight said:

Exactly, those were some of my thoughts. And it also seemed that there was unusually low participation from staff during a couple of months (although it just goes to show we are in fact very spoiled with that normally)... 🤗 Anyway, I'm at ease now that Bandlab showed some signs of life. 😉

Yeah that is true but I think that is mainly due to the pandemic situation and maybe they were preparing some event for the 2-year anniversary thing that was delayed for a reason. 

I really like the Cakewalk layout and workflow, and I don't care about things like the audio engine sounding better on Samplitude or in other DAWs. All DAWs some good enough to me and most of them have the features that I need implemented in a different way so is just a matter of workflow and stability. Is just my opinon, take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: I am sorry Jon but I have to disagree with you. REAPER can actually compete with Cakewalk and with the previous SONAR, there is nothing inferior in it. You should dive in it to realise it by yourself. Is also cross-platform, which is a must for many professional studios.

On 4/4/2020 at 2:41 PM, Jon White said:

Hopefully -- and I say this with due respect and no ill intent -- it will improve the audio engine's efficiency in working with audio drivers and processing.  

Although I'm a Cake/Sonar/Cake user since the late eighties, I've used many DAWs in that time and I find that we have the most audio glitches of any of them -- almost to the point of me changing at my home studio many times in favor of ones that don't blink an eye in terms of smooth playback of workfiles.

We, in my opinion, need to get really serious about finding out why many of the others seem to process audio so much more error/overload free.

 

I agree with you. The audio engine is very fragile, specially when using VST plugins. 

Yeah the audio engine is still a little unstable when using VST plugins. I hope the developers to keep improving it.

6 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

By "user" I mean a party who is not a commercial entity, doesn't wish to earn money from creating Kontakt instruments/libraries.

From my understanding there is Native Instruments, the company who licenses Kontakt, the tool for making these libraries for money, and licenses Kontakt Player for free. And then they and other companies use Kontakt to create libraries to license that can always be played with Kontakt and sometimes with the Player.

My understanding of the licensing is that anyone who owns a license for Kontakt may create and distribute Kontakt libraries that can be played in Kontakt, but the library creator must pay Native Instruments if they wish to create and distribute libraries that are playable in Kontakt Player.

Do I have this right?

Yeah that is right! I didn't understand what did you wanted to say with "users" but yeah, that is... There are no "user created" libraries for Kontakt Player. I am using TX16Wx as sampler and Kontakt Player as sample player because I don't need the scripting capabilities of Kontakt full. I could rant on NI but the thing is that I understand why most of third party developers rely on the NI ecosystem, because AFAIK, is the only solution if they want to copy-protect their libraries. Develop its own sample player is not a viable solution for small companies, is wiser to pay a license fee and make them compatible with Kontakt Player.

18 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

It's not really my world. my only use for sampling at this point is for phrases, but I am a consumer of sampled instruments for sure. Most of my sampled instrument money has flowed in the direction of SONIVOX so far.

I am curious about that end of it from the creators' viewpoint. It seems like there are some pretty advanced products out there. I have been poking around the new free version of SampleTank 4 and am curious about it, and there is Halion, and then the MAGIX Independence mentioned earlier.

Kontakt seems to have the most devoted following in these parts. To them, Kontakt seems to be the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful sampler they've used in their lives. To me, I have the need for playing sampled instruments that doesn't include the need for all of the cool stuff that Kontakt can do on the sampling side. They have the freeware Player, but have library licensing locked down tighter than the iOS App Store so that user-created libraries that can be played on the freeware Player do not exist to my knowledge.

What do you mean with "user" created libraries? There are tons of third party libraries compatible with Kontakt player. 

43 minutes ago, Sidney Earl Goodroe said:

Low budget winners would be Addictive Keys and Sonivox Eighty-Eight. The Sonivox is pretty CPU hungry depending on how many features are turned on all at once.

Not very fan of Sonivox products... I have Addictive Drums and Addictive Keys is an option but the interface of XLN Audio products is a little bit convoluted to me and I don't know how they can pack 5 microphone perspectives in such a small file size, Are the samples compressed using a lossy format or what? Is an hybrid tech of modelled/sampled?

Hi folks!

I am looking for a grand piano library because I am definitely not convinced with the sound of my Kawai ES100 😂 The one that impressed me the most was Pearl Concert Grand, any other options worth to check before pulling the trigger?