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@David Bay My apologies, I did mean to say cwp files, and said wrk files out of habit. The odd thing about this is that for quite a while, Bandlab did not alter any contents of a folder that would cause the files to be read by windows a recent. So if I opened a project and just listened to it, Windows would not read the file or containing folder as having been recently modified. So I dont know If I changed a setting, or maybe my window configuration or something is set up in a way that is doing something with mix scenes I dont know. I would just refresh bandlab to default settings, to see if that solved the issues, but there several really crucial preferences and settings I made along the way that drastically improve ergonomics and workflow, and I do not remember what they all are, so I would rather do that.

@msmcleod My apologies, I used the wrong terminology, I said "wrk" just out of habit. I meant to say this is happening with cwp files.

@base 57 Ok , I tried your suggestion, the issue is not a faulty mouse. I can click on blank space in the project as well and the issue does not happen, so it is only the timeline that causes this to happen.

@ User 905133 Thanks for your reply. Are you referring to just deselecting the area that Cakewalk randomly selects for me when I click on the timeline? If that is the case, I do know that I can do that, and I appreciate the tip on the shortcut key to expedite the select none function. I am just frustrated that I even have to do that. I never wanted anything selected in the first place, so it is very fatiguing to have to keep constantly taking extra steps to deselect something that I never wanted selected to begin with. There are a myriad of these types of redundancies and obstacles, that require the user to constantly have to instruct the software not to do all the things that the user never asked it to do in the first place.

@msmcleod Lol, really? That is amazing, Well done man! That is awesome. I have to say in all my years of identifying weaknesses in software design and many very diplomatic and patient campaigns to get even one minor change made, I have never been able to effect even one change in software. I gave up submitting feature requests a long time ago lol. Well that will be a very big improvement to the ergonomics of manifesting our creativity. So Kudos to you for being a part of this change, and Kudos to the Cakewalk developers for sifting this request out of the millions of other requests and making this a priority!

@msmcleod I could see the benefit of having a library of sections that you could easily select from a vertical list on a sidebar, but I feel that adding an arranger track is an extra layer of abstraction between the user and their end goal. I dont want to make creating and arranging two separate processes. A lot of times I will be shuffling things around experimentally as part of the creative process itself. I feel like the arranger track function is more designed for once you know that you have a final "chorus" or "bridge" etc, then you move those chunks around. So I just want to be able to cut and paste things easily right in the main track window itself using the two vectors that were always available, selecting content, and placing it on the timeline. A DAW is really supposed to already be an "arranger track" just by it's very nature. If you look at the main window of the original cakewalk, there is just a grid of measures for different tracks placed on a timeline. And you just select the things you want and place them where you want. I.E. an "arranger track" The issue I am struggling with is that the original efficiency of simply moving things around directly in cakewalk seems to have been hampered, or at least I have not yet figured out how to do it as easily as I was able to previously, not just in Cakewalk, but many other daws I have had experience with in the past. And that the aspect of what has been hampered on recent versions of Cakewalk, I now need to make up for by addressing those particular aspects by using the arranger track. Which essentially makes what used to one process, now in to two separate processes. Also, because I already have to now create separate midi tracks that are nested underneath a blank instrument track in order to simply mute midi information of different tracks without also muting the track itself, the windows are becoming extremely chaotic. Combine with the way tracks never stay the same size and are always getting really large or small, and are all different sizes, and I am constantly resizing different track heights just to see whether they re muted or not, adding yet another track at the top is adding even more chaos, and what I am trying to do is simplify the chaos so I can put as much focus in to creativity as I can, and not waste creativity on redundant technical complexity.

I agree. This function creates another hurdle to navigate. I get frustrated when I am simply trying to place the cursor on the timeline, and by clicking in the one narrow little band on the screen that has been provided for me to select a new time position, for some reason that will randomly cause a selection to be made, represented by the green indicator. Picking a single point on the timeline should not cause anything to be selected. placing a cursor and selecting a region are two different functions. I havent even figured out what causes cakewalk to make a selection or not make one. Its like if you select on the top several pixels of the timeline bar it doesnt make a selection, if you click in the middle few pixels of the timeline bar it selects something, and if you click on the bottom few pixels something else happens. And then of course when trying to move the loop start or end point I always inadvertently grab the green bar instead, and when trying to move the green selection point, you grab the yellow bar instead. It is detrimental when DAW developers add extra bells and whistles that drastically handicap previous functionality that was already more efficient and intuitive than the new and improved version. Not to single Cakewalk out of course with this phenomena, most all software seems to operate worse and worse, the more the creators try to make it more and more sophisticated.

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I must have inadvertently changed a setting in Cakewalk. When I change Windows 10 folder preference to "view recently modified" windows will place cakewalk folders at the top of the list that do not contain recently modified wrk files. However those folders do contain wrk files that I recently opened to listen to, but I did NOT save or make changes to the wrk file. So Cakewalk must be making some kind of change to the associated folders themselves simply by me opening the contained file and listening to it. I think this is my doing somehow because Bandlab was previously not causing any changes to a file that would cause windows to read it as "recently modified", so I think it is one of the many settings I tinkered with trying to figure out other things. I have Autosave disabled with both boxes set to zero. Does anyone know what else could be causing Windows10 to identify wrk files or their folders as being recently saved, even though the wrk files have not been recently saved? Thanks for any solutions. : )

@Jackson White I do appreciate your response about the arranger track. I am not ignoring it. However, I am trying to figure out how to do the cutting and pasting and arranging the way I am accustomed to without using the arranger track. Thanks for willingness to help though. : )

@sjoens The ripple edit setting worked for being able to delete the spaces out of my arrangements that I tell cakewalk to delete. Thanks ! : ) Also, through plenty of trial and error, and hair pulling, I did eventually figure out that if I was already selected on track 1, then I copied and pasted sections of the arrangement, then paste later in the timeline, that my track orientation would be kept. But I was hoping there was a setting that addressed this because it is super frustrating and non-intuitive that I have to tell Cakewalk that when I copy measures of my entire song then paste them later in the timeline that I dont want all the tracks jumbled up. Basically every time I cut and paste I have to take the extra step of first selecting track 1 to inform cakewalk that I don't want the software change all the track orientations : ( I cant imagine a style of composing where every time I cut and paste a section of an arrangement I want the software to randomly shift all of the tracks in the song starting at whatever track I happen to have last been focused on. I actually cant imagine any time at all that I want to shift my bass track midi data to the keyboard track, and shift my keyboard track data to the hi hat track, and shift the kick track data to data to the synth track, etc. your info about the ripple edit setting is a lifesaver : )

when I select one or more midi notes, then move them forward or backward on the timeline, then Undo that move, Cakewalk also deselects the notes, then I have to reslect them to move the notes again, then if I undo again, Cakewalk will deselect the notes again, then I have to select the notes again to move them again. etc. Is there a preference setting that will only undo the action of the move, but not also deselect the notes? Thanks for any solutions. : )

*This question pertains only to editing midi arrangements 1. How can I simply highlight several measures of my arrangement (all tracks selected), Copy those several measures, then go to the place on the timeline I want to paste them, and paste them keeping the same track orientation I copied? Cakewalk always pastes the measures starting at some random track, which somehow even deletes tracks previous to the point on the timeline I am pasting the new section. I know that I can do the multiple step process of "paste special", then go in and manually tell Cakewalk to orient the tracks starting at track 1, but is there a way to just have that be the default setting? Is there a way to easily just cut measures, then paste measures without Cakewalk randomly taking my 1st track and starting it down on the seventh track, and taking my 2nd track and pasting down on the 8th track etc? 2: How can I select several measures (of all tracks) then delete them and have all subsequent measures shifted accordingly? The problem I keep encountering is even when I go through the extra steps of selecting the "delete hole" option, Cakewalk only shifts the tracks that had midi information in the area I selected to delete, but the tracks that had no midi information in the area I selected to delete, do not shift accordingly, and stay where they were, and I wind up just having to use the workaround of deleting the measures I dont want, then selecting all of the subsequent measures all the way to the end of the song, then cutting them, then putting the cursor at the beginning of the deleted section, then pasting. Is there a more direct way to do this? I don;t recall having this problem with earlier versions of Cakewalk so I am hoping there is a setting that solves this. Thanks for any solutions. : )

I found the answer in the reference PDF. I would have deleted this question to keep things tidy, but I dont know how. : ) I would like to select ONE track, and have that be the only that track that is selected for recording, not also other tracks that were previously selected still be armed for recording. Is there a way to do this? I am constantly accidentally recording on tracks that I do not want to record on because they are still armed for recording and they are above or below the screen. But even if I could see that previous tracks I recorded on were still armed, I would rather not have to take multiple steps to disarm previous tracks that were armed simply to recoerd a new track. Thanks for any solutions. : )

Kurre...Thanks so much for the project>insert tempo change tip! That is so much better than opening tempo track to get to the tap tempo function. Do you know if this can be assigned to a shortcut key? Tap tempo should still be an integrated module in the transport area however. Just sayin! : )