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1 hour ago, David Baay said:

I'm pretty sure CW meters are not "true peak"

This would be my guess as well. Youlean uses True peak (Measures ISP- Inter sample peaks) Cakewalk meters are peak meters.

The extra 1dB your seeing is probably the ISP.

Yes, I believe Automation is track automation.

I will third that, X3 was the first version of Sonar to support VST3 (and maybe ARA as well).

I would encourage an update. That software will be totally unpredictable unless running on an older OS. However I typically reserve my suggestions to anyone on updating because I know sometimes you become comfortable with a DAW version and want to freeze yourself in that time because you know it's layout and features so well.

However a never version will not be unreachable in terms of learning. It will be a lot different, but the rewards will pay off 10 fold.

19 hours ago, sjoens said:

Now having a similar issue with BREVERB2.  After awhile BREVERB starts beeping nonstop:

 

 

This sounds like a classic "Demo mode" protection. This happens with demo versions of plug ins.

Might be the driver software. You may have to update it for Windows 11.

This post hurt my brain. I began recalling all this old information like cheat codes to Atari Frogger.

Anyway, the last version I was able successfully run on present day Windows was Pro Audio 9. I was fun for nostalgia purposes but nothing more than that. I wouldn't be able to work in an environment like that anymore.

On 11/29/2023 at 11:50 AM, William Fleming said:

Select the point where you want the song to end. Split the track at that point (right click on track and select "split"). Delete everything AFTER the split point.

Deleting clips is a bit destructive no ?

Bounce to clips is one of the most used features in Cakewalk if I had to guess.

Anytime you send a project to someone, you take all those tiny fragments (smaller clips) and bounce them to one whole clip. You can also drag the first clip to the song start so they all line up. It's online bouncing, no FX are printed (unless you have clip FX/or pro channel in some cases- See post FX).

Glad you are using this feature. It's a necessity. 

Cheers.

On 11/13/2023 at 1:52 AM, pulsewalk said:

Yeah, tried that too. Didn't work

I'm not sure when this stopped working but your right. Drag select doesn't work. It should work similar to volume automation.

On 11/13/2023 at 6:19 AM, mettelus said:

I had checked this when the OP first asked. Clip gain is linked to the clip being hovered over (it doesn't even need to be selected), so is currently limited to one clip only. To do what the OP is seeking is definitely a feature request.

You're right. Just tested it again myself. I suppose one could argue it's clip gain (as in singular) Not clips gain 😀

Have you tried dragging to select an area vs just selecting the clips themselves ?

I suppose if there are spaces in-between it would potentially create an issue. but drag select works a charm.

This is really the future of DAW mixing. Having a standard similar to midi. An interface which to translate projects from one DAW to another.

Whatever this company decides for its future, It has already paid it forward. This DAW has been free for 5 years with continuous updates.

I'm not sure how BPB has Traction #1 on that list. Cakewalk by Bandlab has way more features. I've been pleasantly surprised in the direction Cakewalk has taken. Anything they have offered the past 5 years was a free extra. It's been great.

Removed comments to avoid escalation.

It is possible theme editor can make things a little loose.

What I mean is, if you created your own theme and made a lot of changes, button illumination can get lost

2 hours ago, fossile said:

AutoHotkey https://www.autohotkey.com/index.html

🙂 

 

Agreed. This has been a favorite amongst many cakewalk users for some time.

Can't you collapse the lane then use "Delete special" to just delete the lane info ?

I've begun doing some myself. Hope people find it helpful

https://www.youtube.com/c/100chuckjones/videos

One should leave a minimum of 500 milliseconds for the head (beginning) of a song that will be uploaded for streaming.

Hope this is helpful to some. This is a real quick way to use fades for song tails (the end/fade outs).

On 7/25/2022 at 9:32 AM, Tim Elmore said:

This signal flow diagram from the Cakewalk documentation may help you visualize the signal routing:

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Mixing.07.html

I've seen all these diagrams before but never in one comment. This is great thank you

22 hours ago, David Baay said:

Interesting, My experience with hardware mixers is pretty limited and I hadn't ever encountered that.

'gate every FX in the signal path' is kind of an odd way of describing what's happening. You're gating the signal (from a clip in CbB or from a tape in the analog world), and that gated signal is passed on to the next effect if there is one. So all the FX see an altered signal, but their behavior isn't directly affected by the gate except to the extent that they might respond differently to the altered attacks and decays in the signal.

I suppose my gate example was on point but maybe I could have had a better example. I think the use of an Aux track or a parallel track would do the trick. It's ironic I always knew FX plug ins cascaded from one plug in to the next, I just never got deep into every single possibility of signal processing. That's what I've been trying to do lately.

With the help of you, Steve and others here you've given me some insights. Thank you very much.

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

Hey, Chuck, I'm not understanding the distinction you're making between the way CbB handles Insert FX and the way a hardware mixer handles them. Plugins in FX bins are acting as a series of Insert effects (i.e. the entire signal goes through each FX in turn before being returned to continue on it's way to the track's output) as opposed to a Send FX (i.e. a copy of the signal is sent on a parallel path to a bus with the FX on it before re-joining the track's output on the Master bus).  If a hardware mixer has multiple insert jacks per channel, those inserts operate in series just like CbB's FX bin. If the mixer has only one insert per channel, you have to connect multiple FX in series externally (or use a multi-FX processor).

You are correct and thank you for your reply, There are several different type of inserts that different boards have. I probably should have cleared that up in my initial comments.

Some inserts bypass the pre amp. Some inserts also bypass onboard EQ. Some inserts (I believe) can also act as side chain for ducking purposes.
Lets say for or example, if I were using a gate , I probably wouldn't want to gate every FX in the signal path. Instead, I would only want to gate the dry signal from the clip itself.

Now theoretically I could make that gate the very first plug in but surely there has to be a way to add that gate to the dry signal without having to add it to the FX bin ?

This is really for education purposes and not really any particular problem I'm having so I'm just doing this based on test purposes only, trying to find different methods.

I Thank you and others for all info.

15 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Good to see you, ChuckE. Through this discussion I have been wondering why you don't want to just put whatever plug-in you want to use first in the FX rack.

Sometimes you want an EQ first, sometimes you want a compressor first. Sometimes you want to insert a plug in without having to make that plug in the front end of 5 other plug ins.
I hope that makes sense. The same reason I have inserts on my analog gear that allows me to tap the audio signal without additional processing going on.

What does a channel insert do?

It is a point in the signal path at which the signal can be sent out of the channel or mix and then returned to its signal path at the same point it left, creating a signal loop. In other words, it allows you to “insert” an outboard (external) or virtual (internal or digital) device into the signal path

9 hours ago, sjoens said:

The flow chart shows clip FX will also pass through the track's FX bin, so all clips will flow thru the FX bin.

This is also what I thought.
 

I think an AUX track or even as you mentioned, a duplicate track (almost like parallel) but only send the FX signal to the routed destination. 

Thank you all so much. I really appreciate the feedback. These little obscurity's are the coolest things to discuss because they are hardly ever analyzed in detail.

Again thank you all