jono grant

The question is in relation to the Apollos and cakewalk vs protools specifically, so no, I use only the Apollos in my system. 

It's not a really a performance issue, more a difference in performance settings! Hence my question. 

Thanks

J

Hi, for a while now, inserting FX chain presets (that always worked for me) are now randomly including plugins that are dead when you open them. They are there with the setting etc but don't do anything. I need to replace the plugin and then it's fine.

Random manufacturers, fab filter, some UAD plugins etc.

Anyone else experiencing this?  Started happening sometime last year.

Thanks

J

Hi, I recently installed a version of Pro Tools to open some projects etc. to move over to Cakewalk.

Curious, why does Cakewalk require much higher buffer settings than Pro Tools?

I use UAD Apollos and normally with a bunch effects inserted into Cakewalk, I need to select a high buffer like 2048 to get smooth playback.

Pro Tools won't even let me push play unless I change it to 256 or lower, and this is w/o any plugins.

Is it that Cakewalk relies on some Windows audio system whereas PT uses it's own?

Thanks

Jono

Hi, I recently installed a version of Pro Tools to open some projects etc. to move over to Cakewalk.

Curious, why does Cakewalk require much higher buffer settings than Pro Tools?

I use UAD Apollos and normally with a bunch effects inserted into Cakewalk, I need to select a high buffer like 2048 to get smooth playback.

Pro Tools won't even let me push play unless I change it to 256 or lower, and this is w/o any plugins.

Is it that Cakewalk relies on some Windows audio system whereas PT uses it's own?

Thanks

Jono

Where is the best place to post a topic like this? 

Thanks

Workaround for this was:

Turn off the global FX in the destination file, then do the mix recall you saved from the source file.

If I do that I can then click on the FX tab again and they all turn on in one step.

Yay!

J

Perhaps the snapshot was taken with them off, not sure but you'd think the global FX button would revive them. Odd indeed.

Hi, I just brought a mix recall preset saved from one session into another and once everything goes into place but all the effect bins are bypassed.

Normally the global FX button would un-bypass all the track effect bins but it doesn't, so I need to go through each track and click "bypass fx rack" 

There are many tracks and a few different files I need to do this with.

Is this normal or is it something I'm doing wrong? Why doesn't the global FX button work here?

Thanks

Wondering if there's any chance of getting "enter" back in the export window as a way to execute the export command? 

Sounds silly but these one second moves that get changed in an update to something slower, really has a bearing on edit time in a busy edit studio. Fast editors rely heavily on key commands as we all know. 

It's been that way for decades and changed with the new export window design (which is great otherwise).

Please put it back, Cakewalk wizards of updates? 

Cheers!

Jono

Hey, is there a better place to post little issues like this so that someone can think about adding to a future update? 

Thanks

J

Thanks for the info!

I was hoping there was something like Pro Tools "Import session data", which I believe allows you to add one sessions' data to another. 

Cheers

JG 

Hi, wondering if there is a way to import data from a cakewalk bundle into an existing session?

J 

Although this method has been working to export a clip of audio/video, I am learning that people on Macs are saying "There's no audio" on the clips I've been sending them.

What the heck, Cakewalk???  Why can't there be a bit of a video overhaul to the program? 

Issue not quite resolved 

On 9/26/2022 at 1:50 PM, bdickens said:

Handbrake

https://handbrake.fr/

Yes, I use handbrake to convert video. Great program! Doesn't help with this issue unfortunately as it makes MP4, MKV files which are awesome but Cakewalk is in the stone ages with video files. So, same synch issue even after converting with handbreak. 

On 9/26/2022 at 1:43 PM, Michael Vogel said:

I’m not sure I agree that PC audio users are a minority. I’f anything I’d say it’s the other way around. Still, that’s not really the point. There are tools you can use to process the video files enabling choice of the video and audio codec used and the container in which they’re delivered. 

I used to use a free program called SUPER that allowed you to manipulate all aspects of video/audio files to get around compatibility or sync issues like you seem to be having.

I’ll look it up and see if it’s still around. 

SUPER be careful. In the past there used to be lots of advertising on the page and it was easy to download another advertised app instead of SUPER. Give it a go, it pulled me out of quite a few tricky spots. You might have to go all the way to the end of the page. I’m using my phone at the moment and as it’s a PC application I’m not seeing all the correct page details. 

I hope it can offer you some help. Cheers,

Seriously, it is not the other way around. I wish it were. 

On 6/8/2022 at 3:43 PM, Base 57 said:

I hate to sound argumentative but trimming a video clip is editing. The Forum has discussed this subject ad nauseum.

Like CbB, Da Vinci Resolve is free.

Very helpful! Thanks

4 hours ago, Michael Vogel said:

I notice you mention Quicktime. Apple dropped support for Windows many years ago. See article in link. 

https://support.apple.com/kb/dl837?locale=en_AU

I have no sync issues with video in Cakewalk, using Vegas Pro 17 and even a really old version of Premiere from Adobe suite 6.0

Thanks! I'm aware. Unfortunately people on Macs still use QT and send out videos using it. More popular is MP4. We PC audio users are a small minority.

*Also, everyone has the reply (I have no sync issues) either do I, but a Cakewalk file with an mp4 or QT file will export audio late. 

So best result here if you're trying to score against picture with Cakewalk: Convert to WMV file. Offset cakewalk by -1 frame for closest sync when delivering to other people/DAWs.   

Convert your MP4 or MOV to a WMV file:

Hi, figured this out and thought I'd post my method. Perhaps obvious to some.

Here's a short video on how to export a "region" in cakewalk as a video file:

Just tried to use WMV file. Much closer but still not perfect sync.

Something is messed up with Cakewalk/Video/Clock

It should be just a solid as an audio-only session. (in terms of sync)

Is there anyone from CW who could look into this?  

@msmcleod Perhaps???

9 hours ago, Lord Tim said:

I never bothered to match audio exactly to video for an export to video in CbB, honestly. I'd export the audio only and then import that into my NLE for sync to picture later, so any padding was never much of a big deal to trim off if need be. So long as the sync doesn't drift during the program, I'm good with it. (Doing sync to some flavours of h.265, on the other hand... Argh. Good luck with that.)

Should it export with no padding? Yeah, absolutely! But if you're not trying to do everything in CbB with the video export, it's personally not a big deal at all for me.

Thanks! But as a composer, this really messes up the work flow. Any other DAW I try doesn't add padding so everything is rock solid between programs as it should be. I've been doing work-arounds for a decade. I belie it's something they could fix if they wanted to. At least figure out some sort of delay offset for it or something. I don't want to switch DAWs as I love Cakewalk but this would really be a worthwhile fix! (You have to consider the time it takes to resync hundreds of cues, full scores, commercials etc.) The issue is likely with the codecs used to create the MP4s. Years ago, Quicktime files would not do this. They do now for some reason.

J 

1 hour ago, Lord Tim said:

I use h.264 720p/25 (or 30) MP4 and generally have no issues with sync. If you have a fairly beefy machine you should be able to get fine performance from 1080p or higher frame rates, but I'd be inclined to not go past 30fps anyway.

34 minutes ago, Andres Medina said:

Me too: H264 codec. Works very good, no issues at all. I ask the video guy to export in this format, so I just import it as it comes.

In a few instances - i.e., when I need a pre-roll time in the video, when the music starts at 1st frame, I edit the video in a separate video editor, inserting a blank of 2 sec at the beginning.

Thanks guys! I had high hopes and tried this. I converted a video using "handbrake" into H.264. Same issue... when I export the video's audio from cakewalk as a test and bring the video into say Vegas Pro (video) the exported audio is later than the original. See screen shot. I seriously have been asking about this for years and years.

(Original audio from video file on top tracks, same audio exported from Cakewalk on second set of tracks. Out by a good frame or so (random unfortunately)

*PS. While in Cakewalk, nothing is out of sync! Works fine, but on import of any QT, MP4 etc. file CW adds a "padded silence" at the top of the mp4 (and file) which gets added to your wave export. If I do this same test using say Protools or Cubase, the exported audio files are rock solid when opened up in another program. 

I wish someone could figure out a way to offset or make a compensation for this apon export of a file containing these video files.

Arrrrrg! 

Hi, long time composer using Cakewalk. 

I had a long thread going over the years of why Cakewalk adds a "padded silence" when importing MP4 or QuickTime to the time line.

All works well, but any music you create and export does not sync properly with the original video after export. It adds that padded silence to the beginning of the exported track.

I never resolved this. Noel Borthwick said it was just the way Window audio works. (Although any other DAW I try doesn't do this) 

Anyhow, everyone in the industry uses MP4 files, so I need to convert them to use with Cakewalk. I find WMV files clunky and slow to react to transport messages. AVIs are huge.

Does anyone have a video format they can suggest that works BEST with CW?

Thanks!

Jono 

*Original thread here: 

On 8/31/2022 at 6:42 AM, msmcleod said:

It's most likely the filename you've chosen isn't resulting in a unique filename for each track,  so each exported track is overwriting the previous one, leaving only one at the end.

Make sure your filename has something that makes it identifiable such as  {trackname}  or {tracknumber} so that it'll be different for each track.

I normally use this filename for track exports:

 

{projectname}-{tracknumber}-{trackname}

 

 

Okay, thank you! (Yes, it kept saing something about duplicate file names. I had just physically typed the song title rather than using the tags. i'll try again

Just now, bdickens said:

It is. You're exporting the entire mix.

"Tracks through entire mix" is supposed to act like soloing individual tracks. It should take all tracks selected, go through any processing and create a separate exported track (with processing) for each track selected. Creating multiple exported tracks.

It's going through the process of exporting each one, yet it only creates one exported track. Usually the last one in the list of selected tracks.