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November 3, 2020

35 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Seriously! You gonna make stupid assumptions like that.

No assumptions. The facts shown by your operation and your answers lead to this inevitable conclusion.

35 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Ever heard of exploring idea's, suggestions and creativity?

Ideas, suggestions and creativity require to know the correct operation of whatever tool one wants to wield. Again, the facts shown by your operation expecting the desired result, and furthermore your answers to the questions asked and suggestions given, show you don´t know the way the tool works, or the reasoning behind it.

23 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

One would think by sending a copy, it would create the stereo image in discussion.

This answer further proves the point.

35 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Dude you seriously sit with one messed issue and frankly I'm tired of you insulting everyone in their threads.

Haven´t insulted anyone. In any of my posts, in any of the threads I have posted. I have addressed you directly in one other thread. If you are tired, get a rest. However, you do have insulted at least a couple of posters in other threads just this week, not counting your insult to me just now. You just don´t like being called on it, and then take it personal.

35 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Seriously give it up!!! Grow a pair! If you're only here to insult everyone you engage with, than you don't belong here.

Nothing to give up here. My pair are well grown in to maturity, something your answers say otherwise about your own. Again, just because you don´t like an answer given to you, does not mean it is an insult. I would think in order to "belong here", one would have to know what they are talking about, or at least be willing to learn about it, none of which seem to apply to you at the moment.

No more left to say on my part.

November 3, 2020

38 minutes ago, scook said:

Vocal, the target of Track 1 is not shown in the image. Where is it?

19 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Didn't bother to route it, as it does'nt make any different.

11 minutes ago, scook said:

To get the levels the same on both tracks in the OP make sure to pan the send either full left or right.

2 minutes ago, Will_Kaydo said:

There's no send Inputs with that.

These answers suggest you don´t have a good grasp on how signal flow and/or the routing in CbB work.

The question and later suggestion are showing the error in your assumption. And the solution to the desired routing. Which will end up in a mono sounding track on the bus configured as Master, most likely raised in level by 3db.

Hence, it is not a bug.

October 27, 2020

5 hours ago, Craig Reeves said:

But this gaslighting anybody who criticizes Cakewalk from a place of genuinely wanting Cakewalk to be the best it can be, both for our own sake and for Cakewalk's sake as well, is a turnoff and has been mentioned even here why some have gotten fed up and just left for another DAW altogether.

My suggestion would be to try to ignore the ones with this attitude. I´ve seen them not only here but on some other pages, they tend to answer fasy and take it personally. I´ve had a couple of interactions when I think they go over the line... but try for the most part to not pay attention. And, I like to think they are not the norm, usually most other folks with a more down to earth demeanor come and pitch in, in a reasonable and helpful manner (as you may see has already happened in this thread).

5 hours ago, Craig Reeves said:

Clip automation takes longer to set up and is more cumbersome to use than the feature I suggested. That is the very reason other DAWs have this feature along with clip automation.

I work with people everyday who do not use Cakewalk and this is a feature which I'm suggesting is one almost every one of them use all the time. So this is not some pointless feature nobody would use, especially seeing as to how I literally see people doing this in ProTools all the time. I promise you if any of them decided to try Cakewalk and found that the only way they could achieve the same task was through Clip automation, they would be disappointed.

I fail to see what are you referring to with cakewalk´s "clip automation" vs protools "clip gain". Cakewalk´s clip gain editing IS clip gain, with the feature that is automatable. In my experience they work almost exactly the same, both present themselves as an envelope you drag to meet the desired level. The one thing I think is different is in ptools you also have the "little fader" on the edge of the clip, which sets the level for the whole clip by changing the envelope level. If working with deessing, I would think for that workflow to be more cumbersome for one clip at a time, as you would have to first split at the beginning and then at the end of the "ess" clip, and then grab the little fader to adjust. In cakewalk, you change to clip gain editing once, and then within the clip, select (highlight) the "ess" portion, drag from the top to adjust, move to the next. This works across multiple tracks. To leave clip gain editing just shift-click anywhere in the clip, and to get back you shift-click on the envelope again. Maybe for multiple clips there would have to be a few more clicks but not so many... first make your splits, change to clip gain editing, press F7 (to change to the move tool), cntrl-click to select all your "ess" clips´ envelopes (that is, cntrl-click on the envelopes themselves), and drag on one of them to adjust all. This works across multiple tracks also. I think it may be just one or two clicks more than ptools...?

Perhaps you could be more explicit as to what workflow you want to achieve as it seems it´s not clear enough to know if maybe its already there... or indeed it´s not?

October 21, 2020

2 hours ago, Will_Kaydo said:

Glad you admit the problem you have.

Changing the track color, automatically change the clip color too. The feature is already there.

With the theme installer you can do wonders.

There's even an option in preferences too.

FYI cakewalk is already way advance than most DAW. You just need to learn it.

I would say the OP was referring to a problem you seem to have. No need to be on the defense, or to attack him as you just did, or to assume everything is about what only you need.

It´s not like he is posting requests every other day about whatever he just thinks he and only he wants...

Most of the requests he has made seem to be thought out and with an explanation, at least for his workflow. He took the time to think of them, group them, and make a post about them. Even more, he just came out with a solution to one of them, and more so he has shared it with everyone, in the hopes that it will improve the workflow of whoever needs it. So, if you don´t need his solution, then do not use it, leave it at that, and do not take it personal, just because you don´t seem to find a need for it or understand what he is after. Otherwise, indeed it seems as you are the one with the "can´t read, can´t understand, why is it not for me" problem.

October 20, 2020

Hi

I just run across this video showing the StudioOne´s implementation for Pipeline, their version of the External Plugin.

It is a really nice implementation, with the ability to introduce notes and pictures for easy hardware recall.

Although this video is showing a stereo use of the feature, at time 10:15 you will see, on the plugin menu on the right, there is a Mono version of Pipeline.

And, even being a really nice implementation with lots of bells and whistles, I think we Cakewalk hybrid mixers would be more than happy even with just a mono version of the existing External plugin (of course, if it can be improved, please by all means!). For the pictures and notes there´s already other solutions, like the Snapshot plugin (for which I´ll leave a link). But the mono capability is what is hindering the full use of CbB as a real hybrid mixing tool.

Also, note this video is from a couple of months ago, if anybody is still wondering on the relevance of a hybrid setup.

Still hoping for this on the next update... or at least some comment from the developers even on just a timeline.

Bye.

Snapshot:

https://non-lethal-applications.com/products/snapshot

Pipeline:

October 5, 2020

this operation takes three clicks... what more of a shortcut could you be looking for?

-swipe to select tracks (1st click)-cntrl

-click on output for quick grouping (2nd click)

-select "new stereo bus" (3rd click)

I think any other option for this operation would result in more clicks or "movements"...

October 5, 2020

On 9/21/2020 at 10:36 AM, John McWilliams said:

+1! I just discovered this Problem the other day And I can’t tell you how annoying it is! I have resisted moving over to Reaper but if this doesn’t get fixed soon, I’m out.

It is indeed annoying.

Sadly, so far there´s not any info if this will be addressed. As another poster said, in the past it has been said it would be, but years have gone by and it hasn´t.

To the developers...:
Is it possible to know if these feature is in the works? maybe a timeline?

Or even if it won´t be addressed at all?

Thanks.

October 5, 2020

Select he tracks you want.

Cntrl-click on the output of any of those tracks.

Select "New stereo bus".

A new bus will be created and all tracks selected will be routed to it.

October 5, 2020

All tracks have an "effect rack", which is the fx´s bin.

To do parallel processing, make a send (pre or post facer) to an aux track or to a bus.

Or use plugins with wet/dry control.

October 5, 2020

Pro Channel has a light indicating clipping. Every processor has a level indicator as well.

Do your due diligence and keep your levels in check.

Better yet, use appropriate gain staging, and never worry about clipping.

October 4, 2020

Screensaver is not a Cakewalk feature.

Disable it in Windows.

September 16, 2020

On 8/27/2020 at 3:12 AM, norfolkmastering said:

I raised the issue of (lack of) mono inserts with Cakewalk back in the 'Gibson' days and after some initial denial, I did get acknowledgement of the issue and it was supposed to have been put on the 'to do list'. I did contact the Bandlab team and it is a known issue to them but so far I don't think there is a timeline for getting it fixed.

I use a lot of mono analogue devices in my mixdown chain and having to write off every other A/D and D/A is not great.

Hopefully we will get a fix commitment with timeline from Bandlab soon.

I referenced this post about the external insert in the update thread, and it also got acknowledged there by Noel, although with the same answer about it being in the "to do list".

Also, I see a lot of other issues and requests get almost immediate response from the developers. But, after two months, 25 replies and 510 views, not this one. Not even a comment about the request, or maybe a timeline as to when we could expect this fix... or if they can offer at least a temporal alternative... or even if they would be able to fix it.

To be honest, that´s a little disappointing, to say the least.

I´m one of the many people that bought in to the gibson lifetime offer, and one of the reasons I did it was the hope that by supporting the company, this issue would get a solution. Glad to see there are lots of other users wanting and hoping for a solution too.

But so far, it would seem we will have to keep waiting... or start (or keep) shopping around for another daw that has a better developed feature for this.

Love Cakewalk, but can´t keep an empty hope and so far, it seems it is exactly what this is.

Nevertheless will try to keep a bit of faith on that "to do list" for a little while more.

August 11, 2020

1 hour ago, Ken McMullan said:

II'm afraid I'm going to disagree until I understand what you mean by "manufacturers." Very few software houses FORCE you to register on their social media platform before you're even allowed to download their installer.

Bandlab assistant my well be their download manager, but Google Chrome is MY download manager and it's really jolly good and does not require assistance.

No-one has yet been able to explain to me why I require Bandlab. Cakewalk used to (and still appears to) function perfectly well without it.

No one is forcing you to do anything. The software owner has established certain conditions for you to use their software (free by the way). So, if you don´t like the conditions, then don´t use it.

1 hour ago, Ken McMullan said:

Make no mistake, it is the same wonderfully functional, rapid piece of software I recall and I will certainly be using it (although, it seems I may struggle with community support due to my honesty).

That is not "honesty". You are just making a tantrum because you don´t like and don´t want the conditions in which this free software is being offered to you, and want to impose your own.

So again: owners and developers have established their conditions on how to use their software. They don´t owe you any explanation about it. If you want to use it, you abide by said conditions. If you don´t like them, you can´t use it.

Couldn´t be easier to understand.

August 11, 2020

On 8/9/2020 at 4:39 PM, Ken McMullan said:

Again, do you often Google the meaning of the popup boxes you get during a software install? I should think not. Most folk just click "Next" to get it over with. Bandlab Marketeers KNOW this.

This has all the hallmarks of a covert software deployment. I now know hat it isn't, but as you say, I'm not the only person who's been frustrated by it.

I didn´t say "frustrated", so don´t go misquoting what I said, that´s not only disrespectful (again) but also false, as in a lie.

And then you spread this notion about "covert software deployment", questioning the company owner of the software, but without any proof or fact... just your paranoid ideas. Without proof, that statement is again false. You are just spreading misinformation.

If you are so concerned about what you install, then it seems common sense to google what it is you are installing before installing it. Other people do, that´s why you can find the answers given to them if you would take the time to do the leg work. The fact that you don´t should matter to you and you only.

August 10, 2020

On 8/9/2020 at 11:12 AM, chris.r said:

Yep, pretty impressive timesaver, in vein of S1 quick workflow a bit. Next... maybe a swipe over plugins in the console to bypass all of them in the same row with one swipe, pleeez?

As far as I know, swipe is part of the multitouch implementation, which predates StudioOne by a long time. I´ve been using it for several years now.

20 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

For me, an elephant in the room is all the things that Undo doesn't undo, like mixer knob movements. Sometimes I slip with the mouse, and sometimes I adjust the control on the wrong strip. Having Undo apply to those moves is pretty essential, and Cakewalk just doesn't do it.

Right click whatever mixer view or track view knob or fader, and on the context menu you´ll have a "revert to"-the previous value that control had. Is a just one-level "undo", but it is there.
Having said that, I also wish knob and fader moves were part of the "real" undo command.

August 8, 2020

8 hours ago, Ken McMullan said:

I can read.

Then google this stuff and read. Newsflash: you are not unique in this world, others have had the same questions, although have expressed them in a polite and respectful manner... and they have been answered. So, go do your homework, instead of coming here complaining about and demanding stuff you ignore because you just don´t want to take the time to research about it. Want some help? start by helping yourself. Don´t like what´s being offered? then don´t install, nobody is forcing you.

August 3, 2020

1 hour ago, Promidi said:

These are not issues introduced by the Early Access release, therefore they are not really relevant to this thread.

You would probably want to log a support ticket (one for each issue) here.

https://help.cakewalk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000025633

This observation was already made, so I posted about both issues on the feedback forum.

Thanks for that link, I actually looked around and didn´t find it. Got a couple of other request, so will put it to good use.

39 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

I looked at the freeze issue and it was actually introduced a few releases ago when we added support for multiple instrument tracks.
Its now been fixed for the final release so thanks for reporting it - although it would have been better in the previous release thread

Great!
Actually I thought it was related to my system, so I endured it till it was time for my usual system restart. I just did it, and also just got the chance to confirm it on another system.
Any way, thanks for the attention and quick addressing of the issue. Will try and be more careful about keeping things on topic.

August 3, 2020

Hi

On this option, documentation says:

"Single Bounce Per Track
Check this if you want to create a single clip for all the bounced audio. If you don’t check this, each separate clip on a track creates a separate clip when you freeze the track."

However, when unchecking "Single bounce per track" option in the Freeze Options dialog box, freeze function will only bounce first clip and make disappear remaining clips in the track. It has been like this for several past versions of CW, including present 2020.07 Early Access version. Already tried this in two different computers with same behavior on both.

To verify:

-Open a track with several audio clips in it.

-Right click on freeze button to open options dialog box. (Fig 1)

-Uncheck "Single bounce per track" option. Hit "Ok". (Fig 2)

-Click Freeze button. CW Freezes only the first clips, and remaining clips disappear. (fig 3)

-Dotted line indicating presence of clips remains, but they are not visualized and can´t be played. (fig 4)

-Press Control-Z to undo, CW unfreezes only first clip, remaining clips still can´t be visualized, even though dotted lines indicate their presence. (Fig 5)

-Upon opening take lanes, disappeared clips can be visualized only in main track lane but not on take lane (Fig 6), but still can not be played. (Fig 7)

As stated, have tried this in two different computers with exactly the same behavior, even after complete system reformatting/restart. and clean install. It doesn´t matter what audio clips are present. It happens with and without plugins instantiated in the fx box.

This has been happening since at least the last three CW updates, including present 2020.07 EA version.

Please fix this evident bug, as it has been always working and has ceased to function, and is clearly not intended behavior.

Thanks.

P.S.: Also, please fix the External Insert plugin, for it to have true mono routing, as requested in this thread:

Thanks.

August 3, 2020

2 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Thanks for the reports. BTW please keep in mind that this thread is primarily to discuss any issues or regressions directly related to the 2020.07 early access and not to make feature requests or post general bug reports. Please use a different thread to report other issues.

Hi Noel

Thanks for answering.

Regarding the freeze bug, it is present on the actual official release, and on the Early Access release, so I think it is relevant to this thread.

Regarding the External Insert fix request, I have posted about it in the Feedback forum more than twenty days ago (July 11), and it has not been addressed by any staff member yet. Since this is also present in the Early Access release, it may also be relevant to this thread.

Abiding by your answer, I will also post this report to the Feedback forum.

Hope both issues can be addressed and fixed.

Again, thanks.

August 3, 2020

Bug Report: Uncheck "Single bounce per track" freeze option is broken

Hi

On this option, documentation says:

"Single Bounce Per Track
Check this if you want to create a single clip for all the bounced audio. If you don’t check this, each separate clip on a track creates a separate clip when you freeze the track."