dubdisciple

9 minutes ago, ralfrobert said:

Looks nice. Any experience here with alternatives that have been around for some time? I am just curious and try to find out where to spend my money… 

I have been using the Porta Cassette  Mix Engine effect in Studio One and love it.  Unfortunately it only works in Studio One.  By being a mix engine effect, crosstalk can be adjusted across all of your tracks and busses,creating a sort of glue. I will try this version since I like supporting companies like Hornet.

47 minutes ago, MrFigg said:

I was tempted to buy the fx  bundle but even though Ive got 12 of the plugins already the upgrade was still €199. And I don’t need any more compressors

I managed to get fx 4 for only $99 on recent sale. I owned about 3 fx from them that I had gotten free, but I think they gave me crossgrade  pricing for owning v collection.I have too many compressors too, but at that price, it was worth it.  Several of the  effects have replaced go to options already. The EQ I spoke of is one of them. That EQ sounds absolutely "creamy" on everything.  I have nothing else like it.  Hopefully you find what you are looking for.

Thanks. Now I can make sure these plugins that are "too good to uninstall" yet have not been used even once are updated. Lol

Another option is having a look at Arturia's EQ Sitral 295. It is also a modern twist on vintage Sieman's EQs and has a similar quality of sounding good on just about anything. They list for same price, but Arturia seems to have sales more frequently, especially if you have purchased from them in the past. 

1 hour ago, dee said:

not sure if you guys know but i have upgraded to mcomplete bundle and luke from melda says i cant sell all previous individual purchased plugins.

anyone has similar issue?

regards

 

 

 

It makes sense because your price for complete bundle was based on you already owning products. It's an upgrade. Upgrades usually require you own previous product. 

9 hours ago, El Diablo said:

I've got a couple of iZotope plugins, like RX Standard, Vocal Doubler, and Ozone Standard.  All of their major plugins is very very very CPU hungry.  They really bog down the computer!  For that reason, I don't plan to invest any more into their software.

I won't gaslight you. There are so many variables across PCs that can contribute to bogging down computer. Ozone and RX are powerhouse programs that are more CPU hungry than average. I have not had noticed them to be any more CPU hungry than similar type products.  Do you use suites similar to Ozone or RX that are more efficient?

I think they just had a sale

5 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

I'd probably like Seventh Heaven too. They say it's a Bricasti M7 clone and my favorite MTurbo device is called "Brichamber." I assume from the name that it's supposed to imitate a Bricasti.

I've heard that about Vintage Verb. I guess it's designed to do similar things to Exponential R2/R4/Symphony, which I have and are great. I loved the sounds Robin Guthrie got with Cocteau Twins and those are supposed to emulate those 70's/80's rack 'verbs.

Neoverb sounds great; it's got the Expo algos. iZotope had to go and add their patented CPUGobbler® technology, though, so I haven't explored it so much.

I am surprised about Raum. Like most of us I got it because it was free. I tried it and it didn't knock me out. Are you using it as a general purpose 'verb or sound design-y character effect?

I use it mostly for character. It works pretty well for weird washy vocals

1 minute ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

But then you wouldn't need Audiolens.

That's my point lol

2 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

It already is. All targets you capture with it can be acessed in Ozone 10 and Neutron 4.

 

I meant without the having to first capture im audio lens as in being able to simply capture profile im ozone or neutron 

I forgot, i also use Arturia plate reverb as my default plate reverb now

5 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

I'm no authority, so I'm curious which reverb(s) you consider to be equal or superior.

I am far from an authority,  but i find there are a few that I find easier to dial in sound I want. "Better" is debatable so my usage of it is more akin to "usable" than a quality issue. I find liquidsonic seventh heaven professional to be amazing and wish i owned it (i have used it at a studio i visit a lot). Valhalla vintage verb is certainly  the price vs performance king imo. I find myself using Neoverb more and more.  A reverb that might surprise you that i use more is Raum. I wasn't  impressed at first and it still isn't  my goto. I do firmly believe if I dove deeper into Melda, it may be capable of same results. I feel that way about all Melda plugins. 

Vastly underrated plugin.  One of the truly unique plugins. Almost every highly regarded EQ on the market is either an analog emulation that relies on coloring or a very transparent eq that relies on ergonomics and pretty GUI to produce same transparency as competitors. I highly doubt a skilled person using Fabfilter, Kirchoff, MAutoDynamicEQ, or even Hornet Total EQ will yield noticably different results.  I don't knock any of these products.  Just mentioned b cause this one actually has a totally different capability that actually makes a lot of sense. With that said, I really need to start using this more. Thanks for the reminder this EQ is amazing.

Both are occasionally available for free or some ridiculous price like $10 at some point.  Audiolens is a damn good product but not something I would pay full price for. It seems like something that should be built into next version of ozone

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

For me, there is not, nor will there likely ever be any functional difference between MTurboReverb and MTurboReverble.

They both have the same devices and presets. MTurboReverb allows you to get under the hood more deeply and edit the reverb algorithms.

Here's a screenshot of my favorite reverb in MTurboReverb(le):

As you can see, this one single device has 27 different parameters for the user to adjust if the user wishes. That selector that says "Bella" is one of the 9 different algorithms you may select for the "Brichamber" device. There are about 100 different reverb "devices." 100 different reverbs where you can choose your favorite of 9 different algorithms per reverb.

So the non-LE version is for people for whom 900 different flavors of reverb with 26 parameters each isn't quite versatile enough.

IMO, pretty much nobody needs the non-LE version. Without touching a knob other than Dry/Wet, it already sounds as good as anything I've heard (I haven't heard every reverb but I have licenses for the Exponential line and have checked out multiple reverb shootouts on YouTube).

And, confession: I've only ever used the Brichamber device, and only with the "Bella" algorithm, because I stop when I don't think I can make a mix sound any better. It's the first bus reverb I try and inevitably sounds so good that I've never felt the need to switch to another preset. It feels weird to have that many options and stick with only one, but what can I say? I'm a "too many reverbs unfocuses the mix" guy. Only other thing I use is either PhoeNimbuStratus or something extreme like Valhalla Supermassive.

MTurboReverble and MTurboDelay by themselves make any of the 2nd and 3rd tier bundles that includes them a bargain if you don't already have them. Just one great reverb is worth the hundy that MEssentials is going for right now.

I think the le versions are amazing. The main benefit of the full versions are for people who basically want to make their own reverbs. I find the le version is better than almost every reverb I own

7 hours ago, Promidi said:

I am pretty sure what was meant was MSpectralDynamics.

That's what I meant. I was in transition and not thinking. Thanks for correction !

I really want to upgrade my current bundle so that i have spectral layers full instead of le and mturbocomp full instead of le but most of the other things are the multiband versions of what i already have

Just now, dubdisciple said:

Pretty sure it works on element products too

"Referencing workflow and target library operates with the following products:

Ozone 10 Elements, Standard and Advanced

Neutron 4 and Neutron 4 Elements"

6 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

As mentioned in the other thread, Audiolens is uselss if you don't own Neutron 4 or Ozone 10.

Pretty sure it works on element products too

This is a limited but awesome plugin.  

Used it. Thanks!!!

Dave's articles always offer good balance of valid concerns that  attempt to be objective 

6 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

When I upgraded to Ggiastudio 4, a month later Tascam decided to drop it.  I called them Thescam. Garritan bought the code and went nowhere.

When Sony became Magix to me it's annual vaporware. 

I miss sonic foundry. Sony did ok, but sonic foundry had that small developer pride and hunger.

2 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

Wasn't Gibson the same company that quite aggressively made a video telling people to let their logos visible in places where their instruments are used completely ignoring the fact they have to pay to have their brand and logo visible?

Sounds like something they would do. Cakewalk is not the first company they gutted 

6 minutes ago, Christian Jones said:

That'd be the legal side of it. But one could argue that there was still a moral obligation there when Meng slammed that home when he himself said:

"Our steadfast goal is that former SONAR owners (of all versions) will not need to spend any money to cross-over/cross-grade to the future flagship product"

He was obviously overly optimistic there, and of course no expressed promise was made there, but he said what he said and one could argue that BandLab, in soon charging for their future flagship, is now not standing by their word, or at least the "steadfast goal" they set for themselves and us. 

I don't feel like BandLab owes me for the Lifetime Updates I bought. For the rec I'm not so much pissed at the lost money as I am at being taken by Gibson's final Cakewalk grift - something Gibson pulled knowing that ultimately they wouldn't be honoring it for long. 

And with Meng coming in and applying sav to that burn w/ that "steadfast goal".. we can understand how one could be pissed at BandLab right now. I'm not. I got way worse s#!t going down in my life to care. 

But probably no one should buy (into) anymore 'Lifetime' or 'Steadfast Goal' bs, and that is what that is. 

I think everyone should be rightfully pissed at gibson since they knowingly took that lifetime fee while knowing they were folding