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I'm not sure if people are aware of this being available again... I've only just become aware of it myself. @cclarry mentioned the product on the old forum back in 2015: http://forum.cakewalk.com/O-Deus-Audio-releases-ASIO-Link-Pro-v24-m3283843.aspx, however when I tried to purchase it about a year ago, I found that I couldn't because the original developer had sadly passed away... and now the original website has gone. "This ASIO driver extends your audio interface ASIO driver and adds windows audio with no additional latency. It also allows you to use your ASIO driver from more than one application with the inbuilt multi-client support, and you can even send ASIO audio over the network. The driver is great value for money for people who need to monitor or record from windows audio or just want to jam with their favourite tunes. Features: Extremely high performance for Pro Audio apps. Zero added ASIO latency. 64 IN + 64 OUT virtual ASIO channels. 32 IN + 32 OUT WDM audio channels. 16 IN + 16 OUT network audio channels. Multi-client mode means ASIO for up to 25 apps. Works without internal WDM or ASIO audio resampling. Record lossless 8 channel audio to FLAC file. Supports Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10. Route audio to/from WDM/MME/DirectSound/WASAPI and LAN/NET." This effectively allows you to use more than one ASIO interface at the same time in CbB (even ones on an external networked PC), allowing up to 64 input/output channels. At the moment I've no idea how this affects latency, but I guess if it's lots of inputs you need then it's likely it's a whole band you're recording and this will be less of a concern. I can also see it being really useful for making tutorial videos. The good news is, it now looks like the developer's nephew has authorised it to be released for free with a patch to remove the registration/authorisation: https://give.academy/posts/2018/03/02/AsioLinkPro/ You can download it here: https://give.academy/downloads/2018/03/03/ODeusASIOLinkPro/

The former is now open source. The last beta can be downloaded for PC, Mac and Linux here: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/#downloads

I've given this a quick test... The great news is that it is indeed latency free. The CPU usage is increased only very slightly, but my projects play exactly as before and are still happily working with a buffer of 64 (1.5ms). I didn't try recording, but playing a piano VSTi through it showed absolutely no change in latency. The bad news is that you can only select one "real" ASIO interface, so additional interfaces have to be selected as WDM and routed to the ASIOLink ASIO driver like ASIO4ALL does. I've not worked out how to select WASAPI instead yet, but it does claim to support it. It's not really a big deal though for recording whole bands, and it does mean you don't need to swap drivers/modes all the time. And unlike ASIO4ALL, you can save & recall your routing configurations. What I've not tried yet is using other interfaces with ASIO on another PC and using the network interface. I'm only set up for WiFi in my studio at the moment, so I don't think that would be a fair test. If/when I get the chance to try it out, I'll post my findings...

No, you don't need it. But you need to buy it. You know it, I know it, and we all know it. Never stop buying. This is our holy duty called GAS.

If you run Surge in Cakewalk, you may find that the UI zoom feature is broken. and crops part of the interface when scaled. A workaround is to first open up a Komplete Kontrol plug-in instance in Cakewalk. Then open Surge as a plug-in within KK. The zoom feature works well then. Other DAWs except for FL don't seem to have this problem.

I really could not resist! 😄 I bought another guitar amp and D-REZ (Drum Resonance Remover). Lately I began to rate all overdrive/distortion emulations to compare it to real gear that I have (maybe I will create another thread for that). My impression is that most of the emulations lack dynamics, i.e. they sound very flat even when you play with very different attack. And many of them sound weak with low distortion. In April I bought the Dominator amp from Audio Assault that includes also an overdrive and a distortion stomp and I was totally surprised that they are some of the best emulations around!!! Very good dynamic with low and heavy gain! Because of the reasonable prices of Audio Assault I did not expect such quality, but the stomps alone are worth the (full) price IMHO. By the way I am not a Metal player, I tend more to the sound of the end 60s/70s and Blues. So I think their amps/stomps are also an option for non Metal sound!

Enjoy the chill @SPAK and @garybrun

Yep ..in agreement with Lynn. I think this piece of work would be great on one of those 'How it's made' programs 'cause it's hard to tie it down ... the moment you think you nailed it the song buggers off in another direction ... I like this one Wooks Gonna lay down now and listen to some 4/4 ...........

Excellent deduction.

Tax pros add (sum) things up by April 15, in the spring.

X2 is VERY different from Sonar 2.2, Sonar 2.2 came on CD not DVD, and it needs a Serial Number as well as a CD Key to install.

I have an insane latency in certain projects... Almost 3-5 seconds from a midi note to a VSTi sound... Have not been able to figure out the cause but haven't seen anything similar in other daws with similar setups. Any chances this could get looked at someday?

What should I say for this 🤔 Kind of an amalgam of electronic techno and orchestral maybe. 🤩 https://soundcloud.com/ramscapri/orchestral-electrons

.99 GBP https://pocketmags.com/computer-music-magazine/issues?fbclid=IwAR1vGxSo-i4mrPlhpEkKvZlBMkR-4CcHVFgRtZQt6XezMs6OtT0QxoA8VCg

I'm seeing new meaning to the term "twiddle some knobs."

lol ...

Another urban legend...

I think this will be tomorrow.

Have you tried moving the lic off the USB stick and putting it on another USB stick to see if that works? I would try moving it to new location and then maybe back to the original USB stick and see if that triggers something.

The bass is an improvement... gonna join SPAK with some 4/4 🙂

We already know that one.

Hi Everyone, I'd to be a member of the old Cakewalk forum since about 2007, but this is my first post here... Well...it's taken quite a while, a few false starts, some very convoluted detours and sidetracks, a LOT of patience, but it's finally done!... (Much of the album was produced using various versions of Sonar) My project "FytaKyte"s first full-length album "Meandersaur". Here are a couple of links where it can be streamed (or even purchased if it's your beverage of choice): https://fytakyte.bandcamp.com/releases http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/fytakyte Here is a YouTube stream of all 10 tracks. The Album is now available to be streamed or bought from pretty much all the digital outlets - iTunes, Spotify, Google Play etc. Just search "Fytakyte" Have a listen and let me know what you think!

Glad you found it. The "Enhancements" tab was 5th tab I couldn't remember... it is not present on my Win10 machine, and I do not miss it.

it's an old video

If you don't want to dig into modular synthesis but just get sounds made with that kind of synthesizers you can start checking the free Reaktor player and the instruments available for it. Here are some videos to get you started:

I always miss by at least that much, no matter what I'm trying to achieve...

Yes I just found the solution and went to write it here for everyone to see and I see your comment yes it was kinda the solution 1, but it was actually in Enchancements tab and I had to enable the "disable all enchancements" option. I also left Dolby FX on as it didn't change much. And that fixed it, THANKS TO ALL! PS: I don't know which answer to accept as a solution because all of them were really helpful and technically mine solves the problem Also I removed my vote ups on your answers because it messed with the order so it would be potentially confusing for future readers.

Was that breaking in or breaking up somebody's home?

^^^ This. AFAIK there are only a couple manufacturers of 2" tape remaining. Vintage King is selling reels for $345.

I'm using the 1st gen 18i20 and have no complaints whatsoever. Latency for me is no problem. I normally use a buffer size of 64, which gives me a latency of 1.5sec @44.1Khz (less than half that for 96Khz). I can go with a buffer size of 32, giving me a latency of 0.7ms @44.1Khz but this can cause clicks/pops with some more CPU intensive synths. I'm still running a 3rd gen i5 @ 3.4Ghz, so it'd probably cope much better with a buffer size of 32 on a faster CPU. The best thing for me however is the sound of the mic pre-amps. The sound is almost identical to my GA Pre-73's (Neve 1073 clones), until I start driving it to distortion...that's when my Pre73's sound better. The Focusrite pre's are extremely musical compared to my other interfaces. My Yamaha mic pre's (i88x, 01X and DS2416) are very clean, but perhaps a tad clinical. Great if you want no colour whatsoever though. My Behringer mic pre-amps are just plain harsh, but the line inputs are spot on. But I digress. I really wouldn't worry about latency on the 18i20. They've apparently improved latency on the 2nd gen, and of course it'll do 192Khz as well.

Different issue with Oscar. He was referring to SampleTank 4. A lot of folks had that issue affecting more DAWs than just CbB after the initial release, including me. But that was fixed in the v4.0.4 update. The program needed some memory optimizations. Seems to be much more all around stable now. On the other hand, I have heard a few folks mention instability with SampleTank 3 around here, even going back to the Sonar Platinum days. A lot of finger pointing at the VST3 version in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sampletank-3-crashing-Sonar-m3682989.aspx

I think it's a difficult comparison to make - gullfoss seems a bit more subtle, at least at the more reasonable settings. It claims to auto eq more than 300 times per second and at a very large number of frequencies, They imply there is some kind of secret sauce to exactly how it's deciding what the ideal curve is. Gullfoss is also dynamic, in that it you can change the way it responds depending on the level of the input. It defines the two modes as "recover" and "tame". thirtyone is just a 31 band graphic eq - that can auto eq to an auto generated or user tweaked curve at a maximum of every 1/4 second. I'm not saying that thirtyone is bad - but it's not trying to do exactly the same thing as gullfoss and is seem much more basic. Still seems effective - and worth a try. Ultimately most of these kind of "auto fixing" type tools are great fun at first, but are often fixes to problems that probably shouldn't be audio in the first place. There is also a great temptation to apply these type of FX and assume it's improving the track...but different isn't always better. (just my opinion obviously) Of course playing with these plugins is much more fun that actually doing some bloomin' work

Generally 6/8 is considered to be in "2" time, e.g. ONE, two, three, TWO, two three. For 6/4 however, it can be either a slow version of 6/8 (so still 2 triplet beats) or literally 6 straight beats. So the correct time signature largely depends on the feel. If it feels like a bar of four, followed by a bar of two, then you should write it like that: e.g. 4/4 , 2/4... but if the phrase sounds like it "belongs" together as 6 notes then 6/4 is fine. However, if it's constantly going between 4/4 to 2/4, it's probably much better to write it as 6/4 simply because it's far easier to read.

Well, it is worth noting that Albion ONE has weakness, too. These are just my 5 cents worth, but for the sake of perspective: 1) I really don't much like the brass patches in Albion ONE and almost never use them. There are some nice bits and pieces here and there, but overall the brass is rather synthy and never struck me as overly detailed or realistic. This is particularly true of the high brass, which is quite unconvincing to my ears. The mid brass is okay, and mid brass legato patch has a nice vibe to it, but the note range is more restricted than I'd like. 2) The strings are really nice, beautifully recorded onto 2" tape, and then converted to digital. So they have a real gloss to their sound. But they offer one specific kind of sound, and so if you are looking to summon a more intimate vibe, or work with divisi stuff or similar, you won't have much luck with Albion ONE. Basically, there is an Albion sound that is very particular to this library, and beyond changing the mic mix (which has limited effect, in my experience) you're stuck with that sound. I don't mind, as it suits me perfectly, but others might feel different about it. Also, the vibrato is not overly...vibrato-ish. Applying vibrato does make a difference, and it's quite nice -- but its more of an additional layer of texture added over the string than a real sense of the players applying deliberate vibrato. It works, but I find it has to be used judiciously, or the strings start to sound a bit synthy. 3) The Albion ONE string legato patches are very subdued in terms of legato transitions. The transitions are there, but not nearly as dramatic or swoopy as others, and there is no portamento. They also don't break the legatos out by individual sections (violins, cello, etc), but are broken out as simply Strings High, Mid and Low, and they use a lot of stacked octaves and similar. They work fine, but if you want more flexibility and tonal options, these are not the patches you want to use. 4) The Darwin Percussion patches have some nice sounds, but I have always found them hard to use, as the calibration between velocity layers is rather twitchy and abrupt. The sounds are big and boomy and resonant (except the high sticks), and all the percussion patches are really of one flavour: big, intense movie trailer thunder. Which is fine and useful, but limited in range. I'm not really into that sort of Zimmer-esque tribal, storm-drum routine, so aside from the Easter Island hits (which are deeep, thrumming booms that I often employ on transitions), I don't fire up the Darwin Percussion all that much, as I prefer to use more classical percussion. 5) In all honesty, I never use the Brunel Loops, and likely never will. They are fine, and when I've poked around that section of Albion ONE I have found some fun sounds and useful loops. But that kind of music is not where my current interests lie, so the Brunel Loops are not a huge factor to me. Basically, I like Albion ONE a lot because certain parts of it are perfectly suited to my tastes and the kind of music I want to do, and so they have become central to my working template. But other parts are not and don't see any significant use. It's clearly a well made and professional product with real polish, and it works as advertised. And even the weaker parts of the library can be coaxed into producing great music, judging by the demos on the Spitfire site. They do sound amazing, and I have no doubt that with proper care its possible to evoke all that from Albion ONE. But it won't be for everyone, and how much use you get out of Albion ONE will depend on how much it's baked in sound and overall patch design suits your tastes and working style. I figured I should mention all this, as it is always nice to know as much as possible about a product - both good and bad - before spending a few hundred bucks on it. It would be great if companies made demo versions of their big libraries available to try, as I hate dropping money on a library that sounds great in theory but doesn't turn out to be what I was looking for. I'm pretty sure we've all had that experience. Rob

Hey @chrismohr You know, I just might have the DVD's to Sonar 2.2. (I'm a bit of a pack rat when it comes to software). Let me check when I get home. I see that my purchase history on Cakewalk.com has SONAR X2 Producer. Would that work in case I don't have 2.2? BTW--is there anything I need to be concerned about breaking my EULA if I make a copy?

Think you might be right Sergio. I enjoyed this....

Youlean Loudness Meter v2.2.3 released https://youlean.co/download-youlean-loudness-meter/ A new update is up in the cloud! This one is not exciting at all, but it brings some important fixes. If everything is good with this version I will start working on some really exciting new features. Can't wait... Changelog: Fixed graph not correctly updated in some cases if using Time Code mode Fixed input gain not retaining value if global settings are used Fixed input gain does not modify the output anymore Fixed crash in TwistedWave with AU Fixed drag and drop info does not display correctly in TwistedWave Fixed wrong end position when doing drag and drop in Time Code mode Fixed crash with drag and drop on macOS Mojave if you have not allowed the permission to use audio Fixed graph not zooming correctly with mouse wheel if GUI scaling is not at 100% If you cancel drag and drop the graph is not reset anymore Animations are now a bit slower on macOS Removed halo around the dynamic graph

Guys, I just noticed the thread is being locked, but stepping in here to give my two cents and hopefully a final word on this thread. Though in the history of the internet (or humanity!) there has never been a situation in which the words "Calm down" ever succeeded in calming things down 😂, I just want to make an honest plea that we try and keep the forum friendly, because it could overshadow the importance of why threads like this are posted in the first place. --- The original comment from @Davydh was that this video was sad to see, and I 100% agree. Any time a user is disappointed by, or has experienced disappointment whilst using one of our products/platforms/services, no matter what the reason or cause, our fault or not - it's disappointing and I am personally sad to have been part of that in some way - even more so if we are personally responsible. I'm happy for people to disagree with my opinion, but hopefully being someone who is directly affected by it means it has some weight - I think it's worth going on record to say my thoughts are that there wasn't any negative intent from Scott at @ChernobylStudios - his video was one of passion, frustration and disappointment, but that's very different to actively trying to disparage the company out of ill intent. I want to go on record too to stress that in all the communication I have seen from Scott with us (as BandLab), he has consistently been passionate, respectful, detailed and always wanting to make things better with suggestions that would benefit all users, not just himself. Since our relaunch, as he correctly pointed out, we have not had yet a policy in which we could compensate creators like himself - he spoke in his livestream of truly loving Cakewalk, caring about it and wanting it to succeed, and I think the proof is in the pudding in the videos he had personally spent the time creating (uncompensated) over the last 12 months since we took over. I sincerely doubt he would actively spend hours of his own personal time creating content that helps people all around the world with a sinister motive down the road. For what he has contributed positively to the CbB community around the world, I don't think it is controversial at all to say that I am grateful and appreciative. Do I wish the cancellation video & subsequent livestream wasn't public? Of course! As someone within the company, the only thing I'd love to see out there is flowers and rainbows (and I am thankful for all of you who have been part of this, spreading the word positively across the internet), but I'm equally a firm believer that every user should be entitled to voice his/her opinion and thoughts in the same way we can do anywhere else on the internet - praise always makes one happier, but criticism is more often than not what makes us better. --- To be clear, the facts of the matter are that he seems to have had a serious issue with VST settings not saving and resetting whilst using CbB and this is a real dealbreaker for us. This is incredibly concerning, and unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at your glass) we, and our extended testing team, have not been able to reproduce this on any of our devices/tests/attempts to do so. From what he described in his video, it sounds like it is not to do with VST2->VST3 persistence, so if it is really the case that something within our code is causing VST settings not to save, this is a big deal and I want to stress to everyone here that this isn't something we take lightly. We are doing everything we can to figure this out and address it as we do with every serious bug report. As per @Morten Saether's post above, this post is also an active call for anyone who has experienced this before and can replicate it to get in touch so that we can try and figure out what is causing it and ensure it doesn't happen again to any other user. --- Finally, it's also important for me to emphasise that just because CbB is free does not mean we take things less seriously or that you should expect any less from us. The way the team lives, breathes and is set up is as if it were a $1000 product that people paid for. My point of view is that anybody who uses a professional product is investing their own personal time, and frankly for a product like a DAW, the time they spend on it is ultimately worth far more than how would have paid for it outright if it was a $400 boxed product - this is a responsibility we take seriously and we are always trying to figure out ways we can support the CbB users better now it has grown so much larger than it was before. Thank you again to everybody for your support and for caring enough about CbB to speak up and to continue to be part of this community. We continue to do everything we can to make the product better - feedback from you guys is why this forum (and CbB itself) exists in the first place. How I wish we could get things done faster. If only there were more than 24 hours in the day! Yours, Meng

"We Didn't Start The Fire"

But the roof is on fire!

If it's purple rain, set fire to the rain

Not having used any Waves software before, I adopted the 'Easy Install' option. Or whatever it was called. Usually I perform a custom install and choose all my own settings, but I guess I'm getting tired of doing that. Besides, I heard so many people here talk about Waves. I saw there were other options, like using a USB stick, etc., but didn't want to keep another iLok-like device connected. I was surprised at the amount of stuff that got installed just to license a $29 Vocoder. Based on the last few days reparte with their support I am not impressed by their efforts to help or listen when given real advice. They don't seem to be aware that this MAC option even exists. I don't think they even believe what I wrote to help them figure this out - the advice they were giving was not very good debugging or troubleshooting practice. Looking into the Hardware randomization feature, I am not sure it is a good thing to use on a desktop computer. Originally, I just checked it off as a security thing and thought it might help avoid tracking issues. But I think this is only useful for smartphones in a public environment now that I've actually thought about what it means. Most tracking on my desktop would be via cookies or my IP address, not a MAC address. And my home router saves all MAC addresses in a table, so, by now, that table must be very full. So I cleared my home router's device list and turned this feature Off. I have a few other vocoders, so I won't miss this one. And I doubt I'll be buying any more such bargains. They have an 'all sales final' policy, but I spent so much time on this already, I just want to forget I even heard about Waves.

The other option is to stop using Waves. Their authorization scheme makes one appreciate iLok.

IIRC, beaver talk was a hot topic back in high school....but then again we were nothing but mammals, doing it like they did on the Discovery channel.

I think what it comes down to is... If Cakewalk wasn't gaining users, wasn't popular.. we all would have been evicted months ago. I think Ming, Noel and Co. have a plan laid out. IMO, its probably going as planned and we should worry less about how popular the DAW is and worry more about our own recordings/productions. I know I am

I use SPAN, but don't mess with the settings, I just use the default settings. It seems to work well this way on the master bus. However, I'm not a surgeon, just a general practitioner.