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I would like to record directly into a Matrix Cell sometimes. Now I record something in a track first, drag it to the browser and then drag it to a Cell. I would like to setup my patterns in Matrix first and then afterwards make the recording in the trackview. Happy holidays Cheers 😎

Oh cool. Didn't realize just how many of you guys were out there. I love metal, and always have. I listen to stuff that gets pretty heavy, but what I write and play is mostly a little more melodic metal... a bit 80s influenced, but with more modern metal tones.

There's a few of us around!

I use mine to score chicks. I bet you wish you were me.

Hi guys, I hope all of you have had an incredible 2018 and are looking forward to winding down (if you haven't already) for the Christmas period. For everyone around the world on the BandLab Technologies, BandLab (and CbB) team, it's been a mad 12 months with a tremendous amount of milestones reached, but one of the crowning highlights was of course getting the opportunity to get to know this particularly community better and to bring Cakewalk into being part of our group journey. It feels like only yesterday we were releasing the news, and I hope you guys haven't felt that we have let you down in the months since. We have seen an amazing take-up of Cakewalk since we relaunched the product as Cakewalk by BandLab - far beyond even our own expectations. As I mentioned in a blog post yesterday about reaching 5 million users earlier this month on BandLab - we are humbled by the support, feedback and passion with which you, the community, engage with us, the product and each other. There are too many names to thank, but none of what we have today with Cakewalk would have been possible without Noel, Ben and their desire and vision to be part of the opportunity forward with us here at BandLab. So with that, an early Christmas present we have for all of you is the launch of the new forum! As promised, we wanted to make sure the old format lived on - topics, threads and an incredible resource for anyone getting to know the product. It's not been ideal that we had to turn off new sign ups to forum.cakewalk.com, especially for the massive community of new users who have flooded in around the world to start using Cakewalk - but we hope it was worth the wait. It's a little empty at the moment and is really a clean slate, so please make yourselves feel at home. Forums only exist to serve the community that lives within them so instead of seeding content we thought it would be best to leave it fresh for you to jump in and get comfortable. Instead of the previous situation where nothing can be hosted on the site - we've also decided to launch with everyone having 50MB of usable space per user and there's also a snazzy new BandLab integration (written by Jesse) that allows you to leverage our embeddable players to share your music with other members of the community. Notifications and emails are also all working, though you may experience a couple of emails going to spam, especially if you use Gmail, so make sure you check in that folder if you can't find any notifications from the forum. Jumping in is easy, just like this forum was accessed via a single sign-on Cakewalk account - this is now the case with your BandLab account and you can connect straight through and set up your profile. I hope you guys will like the new home and we look forward to sharing more about the things we've got in the roadmap for the year ahead. If any of you are planning to be at NAMM in Anaheim for the January show, please also don't hesitate to reach out and stop by to say hello! Much love, Meng & all on the BandLab Team p.s please also send your appreciation to @Jesse Jost and @laurent for their hard work in getting this place up and running amongst all the other things they are working on! ------ Why did we create this new site for the forum instead of continuing to use the old one? As I'm sure you'll notice, the new site allows us to develop on a much stronger infrastructure and architecture for the go forward - providing our users the opportunity to create new accounts (sorry!) but also to introduce more forum tools, user storage, Q&A discussions for better technical engagement, community voting and more. The new site also helps to provide a fresh start for the go-forward whilst not destroying the structure of the old site and potentially affecting the value of it as a resource to the community. Will the old forum go away? In a couple of weeks' time, the old forum will become read-only, at which point you will no longer be able to post. However, we feel (and have taken your recommendations) that it remains a vital resource for the long term and we intend to keep it hosted and to remain in its current place at https://forum.cakewalk.com.

Hey folks! I think that Cakewalk always had a reputation among composers for it's great MIDI implementation. Nevertheless, now is lagging behind the competition and I think that one of the main factors is an staff editor with no changes in 10 years (if I remember well). I am not asking for and integrated kind of Sibelius/Finale but for more serious and competent notation tools in CBB. Thank you for all of this!

Just testing a post really, but this a song of mine I'm kinda proud of ... with its very personal lyrics!

Hi. My name is Bob "Notes" Norton and I just downloaded Cakewalk - but I haven't installed it yet. It's a gig day and I don't do involved projects on gig days. I chose "Notes" because in the pre-www days of the Internet, we conversed with the usenet/newsgroups and on the alt.saxophone group there were already two people with my name there. My sister's business partner called me "Notes" so that was easy to distinguish myself from the 'imposters' Call me Notes or Bob, either is fine, but I've had the "Notes" so long, I keep it around. I'm a professional musician and have been for decades (Sax, flute, wind synth, guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, & vocals). I'm currently in a duo, I make my own backing tracks, and I also write aftermarket style "disks" and fake "disks" for Band-in-a-Box and have done so since 1992. I have played in just about every venue a musician can, from seedy 'dive' bars - to show clubs - to singles bars - to cruise ships - to yacht & country clubs - to 5 star hotels - to being the opening act in concert for major headliners and more. I was in a band that almost had a record deal, but couldn't get the money thing to work (the label didn't want to pay enough for our management's calculations). I've done a lot of MIDI sequencing, mostly in Master Tracks Pro but MTPro doesn't work well in Win10 and never will because it's orphaned so I figure I'll have to learn to use Cakewalk. I tried a demo of Cubase (LE) but it kept crashing two of my computers so I gave up on it. I'll install Cakewalk as soon as I get a chance . I live in South Florida and it's a busy gigging season now. I'm still sequencing on an old XP computer and using a flash drive to get the results to a modern computer. I liked MTPro because it has great editing features and with no audio commands and a pure MIDI environment the work flow was quick. Every editing dialog box was accessible with one click in a drop-down menu with no little arrows for sub menus and sub-sub menus. But those days are gone so I need to evolve with the times. I've done audio recording in Audacity and PG Music's Power Tracks Pro. I like PTPro OK for the limited audio that I use, but I don't like it's MIDI editing functions. There is no control over groove, I'm hoping there will be in Cakewalk. People in other forums have indicated that there is. The website of my duo is http://www.s-cats.com and there is nothing to buy there so I don't think it's considered spam. My Band-in-a-Box website is http://www.nortonmusic.com. I'm just posting these for people who are curious. If this is considered spam, please let me know and I'll delete. I like many different types of music, from 3 chord blues to symphonies. Genre doesn't make as much difference to me as to whether I like the music or not. I have no idea why I like some things and not others on an emotional level, but just go with it. I've played classical, rock, pop, blues, jazz, salsa, soca, reggae, folk, country, and quite a few other forms on stage, and I find that the more genres I learn, the better I get at the ones I already know. After I install Cakewalk, I'll probably start by asking a few Cakewalk Newbie questions and I hope the seasoned users are kind and patient with me. If I stay with Cakewalk long enough to get good at it, I'll be happy to return the favor to anyone who hasn't climbed that ladder as high as my then current level. And if any user has questions about things I already know and can help with like wind synthesis, saxophone, basic MIDI sequencing, or whatever, I'll be happy to help. I'll probably visit this forum sparingly at first and be more of a lurker, as one can learn by lurking, but eventually I hope to make a lot of friends here. I'm sure there are friends from the Band-in-a-Box forum that I already know. There it is, probably TMI but my new computer types so well I just couldn't stop Bob "Notes" Norton

Here is a link to all the Vertical Alignment stuff we've released since early this century, all done in various Cakewalk's: https://verticalalignment.bandcamp.com/

Pro Tools is a bottomless money pit.. It never stops costing you something close to another 1000, then another 1000, and then when you finally think you've got it made to the top of the heap, Apple will reinvent Thunderbolt, give it a new connector design, and Avid will drop support for your audio interface, and all your FX plugins will stop working stably. But......... Pro Tools is the industry standard, and it'll never stop making you money if you take the time in mastering it so like it or not it's the only way to maintain a stable footing and living in the industry, save for the highly unlikely event of becoming the next big thing in the rock star world, is being the guy who knows how to use Pro Tools.. That being said, I like Pro Tools well enough, maybe not as much as I love Cakewalk, but I do like it very much.. Why you ask?? Because 9 out of 10 professional recordings I'm involved in are deeply involved in using Pro Tools, and 10 out of 10 mixing sessions I'm involved are done in Pro Tools. I gave up raving about how much better I feel Cakewalk is then Pro Tools years before Roland even thought of passing it on to Gibson Brands because nobody in the industry that will to pay me on a regular basis for services rendered could care less about anything other than making the quickest and smoothest profit return on their investments with and thru their finer "Financial Instruments". And the sound of any other "Instruments" falls squarely into deaf ears and will forever be ignored as the incessant whining of the gears of the talented and such who seek the ever elusive unicorn of perfection. And so looking at it in that respect, I could only assume that Pro Tools is in fact the best DAW anyone could learn how to use if you have any intentions of actually making money in the music industry. And while I have always much preferred working in Cakewalk as a simple affordable solution and way to take my music projects to a much higher level of creativity with all the professional quality tools included in the box that I could ever afford to do with building Pro Tools to a reasonably comparable powerful creative solution. As far as the folks in industry are concerned, being nothing is going to be released before running thru Pro Tools as an industry standard, and other DAW is merely an added expense for us creative types which is and I'm pretty sure will always be considered "None of their business." anymore then they care if you play a $300 Epiphone Les Paul or a $4500 Gibson Les Paul. Because in the end product, nobody will be able to tell the difference anyway. And so what would be the best DAW anyone could possibly hope for? Well you're never going to find out if you keep jumping from ship to ship before you actually know enough to make an informed decision about everything your DAW can do and build a working knowledge and understanding of how to use it. You can waste your entire lifetime sifting through learning curves and never actually learn a damn thing about recording properly or creating great sound music projects that way. Or understanding the importance of knowing the differences between choosing a VCA, FET, or Opto compressor? Cakewalk has them all, seek and you shall find. Ever wonder why Cakewalk ProChannel has 4 different types of EQ's built into one module? Why do high pass filters effect the bass and low pass filters effect the high freqs, and why you should even bother using them? What's so freak'in ultimately COOL about having 3 choices of Channel and Buss emulation built in? Ever wonder what ProChannel even IS, and why it's one of the things about Cakewalk that sets it heads above any other DAW out there for very useful, powerful, and important tools included in the box? What makes it different then just using an FX bin? Ever work with Cakewalk's "Take" and "Envelope" lanes? Drum Replacer? Matrix? Vocal Sync? Audio Snap? Session Drummer 2 or 3? Dimension Pro? Rapture? Rapture Session or Pro? Cakewalk Studio Instruments? TTS 1? Sonitus plugins? Do you know the difference between Channel plugins, Buss plugins, and Mastering plugins? Or why you can, but really shouldn't use place them in the wrong places. Of course the only rule to making rock music is "there are no rules", but knowing what the rules are before breaking them is a great way to realize that maybe it isn't the DAW being as stupid as you may think, LoL.. Keep making that mistake and you deserve to be forever broke buy new DAWs until you find one that can read your mind and automatically "know what you want it to do."🤒 It's MUCH easier to adapt to a DAW that it is trying to find one that will adapt to you. If you could think about comparing DAW's as you would "Coloring Books" and all plugins and tools as the "Colors", you should clearly be able to see that Cakewalk comes stocked with the biggest box of "Crayons" and "Color Pencils" of any other DAW.

I've treated myself to a nice new 'Paul McCartney' hairdo fer Xmas ... .... Mullet of Kintyre

CAL still works: http://members.ziggo.nl/t.valkenburgh/Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide.pdf There's also Alexey's AZ Lua MFX plugin: http://www.azslow.com/index.php?topic=286.msg1370

Ah that was a fun track. Thank you.

I followed every one! \m/ Thanks leadfoot. I have rock stuff to. “Seeing Clearer” is on there. Probably my most mellow recent song. Phil, surface of solar winds was a good jam man!

Thank you sir, it was inspired by my Australian friends, but I myself am from New Jersey 😉 it was a blast to create this... thing. Hahaha

That was pretty heavy stuff!

Really excellent albums Pete.

My DAW is used to record my own music, simply for the love of music. No paychecks, unfortunately, but there's nothing like the feeling of creating something, and feeling like it's a good song and that it was well mixed.

My experiences in the studio with Cakewalk have been largely good ones. It has been my main studio workhorse for years. I have a few others. Always went to Cakewalk for creation purposes. The other DAWs I have are Traction, Studio One 4 Pro, Ableton Live 10, Mixcraft Pro 8. I like them enough to probably keep at least bi yearly updates on all aside from CbB which updates free. The others all have some use depending on what you want to do. I don't think the average user has the time to jump between a bunch of daws and get anything done. DAWS I might buy. Acid Pro 8. I have Acid 7 and might upgrade it simply because I like working looped material in it better than anything else. DAWS I tried and never ended up using. Reaper, Cubase. Not bad programs. I simply don't have the time to invest in learning another DAW. I was never attracted to Mixbus. What appears to be a console emulation with DAW function. I downloaded it and played a bit with it. Decided it wasn't for me. Have tons of emulation plugins already. I am beginning to write notation for groups. I needed a program to use for that. As someone who prefers creating in a DAW in real time, the idea that I could export to Notion from Studio One appealed to me. I DON'T like writing notes in one at a time in any program be it midi or notation. CbB has some notation ability which maybe I should investigate more. I believe it is very rudimentary though. Would get the job done on a simple project. For those looking at notation option there's also a decent marriage between Sibleus and Pro Tools. Maybe better in some ways than Studio One/Notion. Never used that setup personally. You don't need rewire with Studio One though it has the option. You can use another built in protocol that makes transfer easier to do.

I'm hoping with Jesse back he is given time to update the Matrix. For those that don't know Jesse was one of the Programmers for Project5.

We've only posted a few songs there but since we're a collaboration already we don't have much need for that aspect of Bandlab.

Ha ha! Love it! An ingenious mix of found sounds and Lord knows what else... Very original to say the least! Loved it, and the barmy video! Maybe you have to be a Brit or Aussie to fully appreciate! (It's a brave soul that includes Rolf in something! ....) 🤣😎

If you want to explore an alternative to Winamp for this, Foobar2000 also lets you stop at the end of each song (in Preferences | Playback check "Stop playback after the current track" and uncheck "Reset the above when stopping"). AMB

Hum seems the embedding is not quite up to scratch yet https://www.bandlab.com/the_wookiee/lost-soul-572fc?revId=591d8ed5-51c2-e811-af11-00155d60cb1b

I like the workflow better in Cake. Pro Channel, Inspector, Mix Scenes, Lenses, Multidock . . . S1 is a bit fiddly to me at the left Side (Inspector). What I like best in S1 is the Scratchpad. I never liked the transport bar at the bottom and I miss Punch Markers . . . and so on. It's the amount of such things, you know. And the UI - you have to like it - I prefer the look and feel of Cake. Feature Request: The Matrix thing has been mentioned in the old forum before, but yes, I'll do it. Happy Holidays to all Have good time Cheers 😋

Well done man, well done. 😎

Any of you here using Bandlab to share your music or collaboration? I've been using it a whole lot, making good friends and music on there, it's been really cool.

⚡YEP!!! ⚡

You can choose what to load, so if your instrument sound hasn't changed, don't reload it. I wrote an article about Mix Recall for Sound on Sound magazine that explores some of the creative possibilities. For example it's great for saving different versions of songs, including ones with vocals up 1 dB, down 1 dB, etc. One of the most outstanding aspects for me is being able to that you can recall certain mix elements from particular scenes - for example if the mix on the bass and drums was perfect in one scene, you can recall just that part into a later scene that got the other tracks right, but lost the recipe on the bass and drums. Just remember that Mix Recall is indeed that, not Arrangement Recall. If you've made changes to the arrangement itself, like added or deleted clips, Mix Recall will affect only the mix-related parameters that relate to the arrangement.

Boy Are Posts Useless

One more here...

They have the online studio for schools. Maybe start there. https://edu.bandlab.com/

Guess we're coming out of the woodwork😁

Exactly the way I use Mixbus 32C. During the dark days I bought Sampitude X3 suite and Micraft 8. Meh to those two. I had already owned Studio One 3 Pro and Reaper 5 (as well as Mixbus, but again I don't call it a DAW i call it a console). Alexy (azslow3) did a bang up job on his .cwp converter. If I had been forced to use Reaper I'd simply translate all my Cake projects using that utility. I like Reaper once you get to undertsand how you can change the menus and skins to meet your needs. I had some high hopes that Samplitude X4 would be a huge jump. Niet. They won't be getting my money. I'll not look at Mixcraft ever again. I upgraded to Studio One 4 Pro and I am very pleased with it's workflow for composing and arranging. The Arranger and Chord tracks are worth their weight in gold (for me). I'm not a big MIDI guy (drums from MIDI packs and the edited to taste, and some simple keyboard lines) and so it's no big deal to me how any of the DAWs handle MIDI (including CbB). I do own Notion so I have that if it ever becomes necessary. Do I still use CbB? Yes, for my collaborations as it makes it easy to provide a "mix" to track to in the form of a .wav and a .cwp with markers for sections and the chords. But once I get the collaborators parts they go into SO4P. With the Chord track I can try out alternate chords and affect all non-percussive tracks at once. Super Cool. And Arranging the section is a breeze. So it's SO4P->CbB->SO4P->Mixbus 32c workflow for me. YMMV

All Cakewalk technology assets were acquired, including the instruments. Can't provide specifics at this time, but we haven't forgotten about instruments and effects.

So to stay signed in (as in avoiding signing in every time) I must keep the asst running? That not real good. Cannot see threads unless I sign in-except for LAST post.. Type and layout really leaves much to be desired. OK so I know it's free. Does this mean I should settle? Well Ok I guess. Just won't come here unless it is paramount. Sad, in the CW forum we good browse, read threads, learn, etc.

Check out our BJZ project HERE and the precursor BBZ project HERE It's little bit Metal and little bit Rock (to paraphrase Donnie and Marie)

Hey, maybe you can have Brandon Ryan run a demo for you for old time' sakes

AFAIK, the shift to development on Win10 happened a couple of years ago. Testing on Win7 has decreased ever since. I am not sure how much Win7 testing happens today. While CbB may run on Win7, the recommended OS is Win10.

Yeah. I do miss Kamikaze's address!

Stability is tied to W10. Your on your own when using W7. I use both and definitely have stability issues with my W7 version. ANd one of them is that crash after save I used to get on both W7 and W10. For me now W10 is rock solid. But my Laptop is licenced to W7 and I'm to cheap to pay for the upgrade

Yeah, I get it. The whole drum map process needs a rewrite. I suspect it is a pretty big job. In the meantime. while not as convenient as directly editing the drum map to the left of drum grid, there is a tool which converts a text file (using the ins format described above) to a drum map. It may be easier than the existing drum map editor for some workflows. The tool is called Ins2map and is available from http://dis.sesseler.de/. To get the tool “Cakewalk SONAR” on the left side of the web page then click “Instrument to Drum Map” link to download the zip.

Yeah... The staff view is the most urgent improvement in my opinion. I hope Meng and the Bakers to re-consider the Sonic Scores offer.

+1

I took a look around and I like it. Clean and tidy. LogIn was easy for me, I'm looking forward to a lively community. Good Job 👍 Got to test it on the mobile as well (as mentioned by Noel). So, time to make some music. . . .😊 Happy Holidays to all of you 🎅

I like the look: fine I am good with the new editor: fine Here's what I don't understand: It has been a long-time coming for the replacement of the old forum, and as recently as about last week, it was stated on the old forum that it was "not as easy as one would think". I was expecting that the delay in all of this was the bringing over of all of the old profiles, signatures, preferences, forums, posts, etc., but instead I get here and it is a completely blank slate. This is also fine, as I'm sure many will be glad for the clean-up, but then, why did it take so long? As a web designer/developer and user of Many packaged systems, like forums, blogs, etc, isn't this just a brand new forum that should be able to be thrown up in a shorter period of time? That all said - thanks to all those involved in keeping Cakewalk alive and continuing to move it forward. I'm critical, sure, but still hanging on the sidelines to see what is happening, where Cakewalk is headed, and how the product and (importantly) the forums will move forward. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and a festive "whatever you celebrate" to all!

Yep, new car smell, nice wash and waxed look!! Very clean!

The 2018.11 release brings you file load performance enhancements, bug fixes, updated Overloud plugins, and a brand new export control bar module with seamless one click integration to export projects to the BandLab cloud and fast access to common file export operations. Features & Enhancements For details see New Features Export Control Bar module for fast access to common file export operations Publish to BandLab, with options for full mix, track stems, or bus stems, and full support for project revisions Updated BREVERB 2 Cakewalk full VST plug-in Updated version of Overloud TH3 that is fully compatible with Cakewalk by BandLab Project load optimizations, including faster load times of large multitrack projects and projects that contain many AudioSnap transient markers UI optimizations, including faster track scrolling and navigation in big projects Smaller update installer that will only copy the necessary files required for a given update (only able to install over the previous release version; full installer available when updating from older versions) Bug Fixes Slip stretching (CTRL+SHIFT+drag) is not possible with Edit tool Cannot preview M4A/MPEG-4 audio files in Media Browser Crash on project load using 2018.09 build 29 Closing toast notification for VST Scan should hide further toasts until scan completes Potential crash and incorrectly mapped parameters when opening Craig Anderton FX chain that uses Overloud TH3 Changelog for latest release is here. See prior release notes. Check out all new features released to date.